Official Jan Pre-Raid Discussion (Merged Thread)

  • ballgagsforjesus
    ballgagsforjesus
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    Hey folks,

    Based on your feedback, we've added ship build tokens to the prize list. Congrats!

    TOKENS

    Ship build - 1 hour                      120,000       12
    Ship build - 12 hours1,400,000        5
    Ship build - 24 hours2,750,000        4

    Thank you.

    Not to be greedy, but how about hulls in tier 1, 2 & 3 that aren't offered in the FM weekly and campaigns? None of those are a challenge to get where they're at, especially compared to a raid. More work, better rewards? Hulls like: juggernaut, LCX, etc.


    Yes, I know December was a hull raid. But there were people that were too low level to get more than 1 hull out of tier 1 in my sector that this would really help out a lot of lower level players rather than just duplicating items they already have access to via other mechanisms.
  • The_Saint73
    The_Saint73
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    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 190
    Thanks Doom, really appreciate the addition of the tokens.
  • kixeyeuser_1384609903109_100003522404108
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    SWEEEEEEEEET   TOKENS lol

  • PsychoOgre
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    Rebel 77 said:
    I have to say that all this whining about please add this tech or please add this weapon drives me crazy. The fact is I need scatterguns too. When they were giving them away during the scourge raid i didn't see them as a big deal. I made a value judgement and now that i have seen them i need them so I pay the consequences for my poor judgement. I certainly am not going to cry to kixeye to somehow erase my poor decision. I can remember needing tech that I waited 9 months for waiting to appear in a raid. It never occured to me that my best strategy was to log onto a forum and whine about my lack of tech. Patience paid off and I finally got what I needed. I go into a raid looking for opportunities through the tech that is offered not using each raid to excuse my prior decisions.  
    Wish I could like this more than once.  Part of the strategy is what to get and what not to if your wallet isn't unlimited. 
    Ditto that here! Well said Bulldog6430 and Rebel 77!
  • Zech hall
    Zech hall
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    Please add styx or the Charons kixeye
  • Charles McClellan
    Charles McClellan
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    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 321
    I hate to say this but it looks like a well thought out list.
  • FiremanHawk
    FiremanHawk
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    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 846
    finally something to work for. tokens. i will say thanks when you do something right. thanks
  • Crypt Keeper
    Crypt Keeper
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 474
    So the apocalypse mortar is 12mill and the new hull is 12.5mill, how does a turret that has been out for awhile cost as much as a brand new hull? 
  • Dredinar
    Dredinar
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    Joined May 2011 Posts: 249
    can you add the mastodon please. i know d5u might be asking too much, thank you.
  • Internet Knight Sec 77
    Internet Knight Sec 77
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    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 1,101
    Thanks for the tokens but what about the scourge torpedos?
  • Zech hall
    Zech hall
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    I still say scourge torps nice addition of Tokens and loving that i can get the scatterguns
  • gtlyons
    gtlyons
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    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 375
    Am I the only one who thinks the lower tier raid prizes are overpriced across the board? The Assault Disruptor DR was a 4.5 million FM point Tier3 prize. The Harrier costs more now than it did on original release by about 1.5 million points.
    Prize Hulls owned: HHA, HHB, ScorpA, BBA, Levi A, Triton, Corvette, Destroyer, Destroyer X, Light Cruiser, BC, Battleship, Juggernaut, Interdictor, Mercury, FFA, LCX, Scorp A, Mauler, DreadX, Frigate, Rampart, SCX, Vindicator, Sawfish, Spectre, MCX, SFF
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  • sliceNdice
    sliceNdice
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    Joined Mar 2015 Posts: 5,428
    So the apocalypse mortar is 12mill and the new hull is 12.5mill, how does a turret that has been out for awhile cost as much as a brand new hull? 
    Apocalypse is still one of the best turrets in the game. I think it's a good price.
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  • sliceNdice
    sliceNdice
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    gtlyons said:
    Am I the only one who thinks the lower tier raid prizes are overpriced across the board? The Assault Disruptor DR was a 4.5 million FM point Tier3 prize. The Harrier costs more now than it did on original release by about 1.5 million points.
    Disruptor is more important now with the railguns. I understand the point boost.

    The Harrier increase is TOTALLY understandable. The missile got buffed amazingly. Double damage. It's still one of the best (the best in some cases) missiles in the game.
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  • Financeranger
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    lol doom bribed us with tokens.....well it worked, I shall hence forth coineth said raid as a gesture of goodwill towards thee King Kixeye!
    Level 102, Collected all the hulls kix wants me to coin! Sectors travels...who cares play the game and don't whine when you get hit!
  • tee.fragall
    tee.fragall
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    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 357
    Hey folks,

    Based on your feedback, we've added ship build tokens to the prize list. Congrats!

    TOKENS

    Ship build - 1 hour                      120,000       12
    Ship build - 12 hours1,400,000        5
    Ship build - 24 hours2,750,000        4

    Wonderful news DR. Thank you very much!! 
  • RainMakerX
    RainMakerX
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 800
    D-110 Could DoomRooster please pull the slider bar down on the new event weapon and show the rest of the stats that we cant see. There has to be more Im guessing it also has Bypass thats not showing....otherwise Arbalest is a better weapon than the new D-110
  • War_Pig277
    War_Pig277
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    And a big thank you for the token add. Now if you could add 25,000 coin to my base that would be even better.
  • The Kozzie
    The Kozzie
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    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 2,256
    Hey folks,

    Based on your feedback, we've added ship build tokens to the prize list. Congrats!

    TOKENS

    Ship build - 1 hour                      120,000       12
    Ship build - 12 hours1,400,000        5
    Ship build - 24 hours2,750,000        4

    Great news.  Thanks alot, its is very nice and welcome to see these back again.
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  • Montecristo
    Montecristo
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    any chance we get the rhino????

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  • BloodRavenFavian
    BloodRavenFavian
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    And a big thank you for the token add. Now if you could add 25,000 coin to my base that would be even better.
    It actually wouldnt. Cuz you'd then ask for more. And more than what you're asking for now is just being greedy.  :p
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  • sliceNdice
    sliceNdice
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    And a big thank you for the token add. Now if you could add 25,000 coin to my base that would be even better.
    It actually wouldnt. Cuz you'd then ask for more. And more than what you're asking for now is just being greedy.  :p
    B-b-but how could handouts at the expense of the free market possibly be a bad thing?
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  • LIAM_THE_RED
    LIAM_THE_RED
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    edited 14 Jan 2016, 6:09AM
    I think I have to disagree with most here, in that I kind of like what I see for the prize list.
     We have been told in the State of the Game that tech was running away (power creep) and the team was working on it. Here we have a new weapon, its not so different from the arbelest we already have, but it is slightly different, I will be interested to see how it does in FvF and in base attacks, I cant imagine that it will cut thru walls any faster than the arbelest does, so the accuracy and piercing is the difference I see, variety without power creep is good. I think the hull can be built as a tank fairly well, its also fast, not as heavy as a crusader, kind of like a drac version of the crusader in my eyes (My only beef here kix, FORESAKEN are supposed to be the specialist in ballistics hulls, why are you giving the dracs one? Could have been a new missile hull or nuke cruiser, let them find their own niche!   :p  ) again more variety without a super jump in power creep, though I believe this hull is right at the edge of serious power creep. The rest of the tech in the list, geeze pirates, if you dont  like it you dont have to go after it, get what you want next time it comes around! To my eyes this new set of ship/weapon is exactly what they promised us.

    Getting tired of all the rants, why does everybody seem to think they need all the tech right now? For that matter why does everybody seem to think they need ALL of the tech? Get what interest you, if that is attained (or un-attainable) get the next best, have some fun, help some little guys, and just enjoy! If you dont like the raid sit it out (what I did for the scourge raids, not only because of the fact my fleets were just not suited for those  raids, but because I simply am not much of a sub guy [admitted, those tigers are awefully nice...])  go build the other hulls everybody is yelling about not having time to build because of new stuff, lol, dont get the latest new stuff, build your other new stuff! Just saying.......
    The problem about building these over powered hulls is build time! and add that there was no tokens in last raid added to that no tokens on weekend campaigns and only top tier players are getting tokens in fm's. good thing they added them. i would like to think they listened to us but i think it was a wait and see how much we bitched before giving in, now how about some of that reduced coin?????????
  • Misplaced Canuck
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    I am rather disappointed that fusion launchers have not been rereleased this raid. I mean the fusion hull was available in the hull store and yet we don't have the weapon it is designed for.

  • neptune_war_god
    neptune_war_god
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    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 219
    I know its a bit late now or maybe not but any chance of adding Pen3 to the prize list , havent seen it in months and for some strange reason I didnt get it at the time it was out. I have been waiting and hoping it would come up in the last 4 raids but nothing - CM Doomrooster, Scarlett please do the bizz :)  
  • THE_DUKE
    THE_DUKE
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    I think I have to disagree with most here, in that I kind of like what I see for the prize list.
     We have been told in the State of the Game that tech was running away (power creep) and the team was working on it. Here we have a new weapon, its not so different from the arbelest we already have, but it is slightly different, I will be interested to see how it does in FvF and in base attacks, I cant imagine that it will cut thru walls any faster than the arbelest does, so the accuracy and piercing is the difference I see, variety without power creep is good. I think the hull can be built as a tank fairly well, its also fast, not as heavy as a crusader, kind of like a drac version of the crusader in my eyes (My only beef here kix, FORESAKEN are supposed to be the specialist in ballistics hulls, why are you giving the dracs one? Could have been a new missile hull or nuke cruiser, let them find their own niche!   :p  ) again more variety without a super jump in power creep, though I believe this hull is right at the edge of serious power creep. The rest of the tech in the list, geeze pirates, if you dont  like it you dont have to go after it, get what you want next time it comes around! To my eyes this new set of ship/weapon is exactly what they promised us.

    Getting tired of all the rants, why does everybody seem to think they need all the tech right now? For that matter why does everybody seem to think they need ALL of the tech? Get what interest you, if that is attained (or un-attainable) get the next best, have some fun, help some little guys, and just enjoy! If you dont like the raid sit it out (what I did for the scourge raids, not only because of the fact my fleets were just not suited for those  raids, but because I simply am not much of a sub guy [admitted, those tigers are awefully nice...])  go build the other hulls everybody is yelling about not having time to build because of new stuff, lol, dont get the latest new stuff, build your other new stuff! Just saying.......
      Wasn't the first real ballistic hull a drac hull the original dread and was followed by the  battle ship
  • Detective_Soulhex129
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    THE_DUKE said:
    I think I have to disagree with most here, in that I kind of like what I see for the prize list.
     We have been told in the State of the Game that tech was running away (power creep) and the team was working on it. Here we have a new weapon, its not so different from the arbelest we already have, but it is slightly different, I will be interested to see how it does in FvF and in base attacks, I cant imagine that it will cut thru walls any faster than the arbelest does, so the accuracy and piercing is the difference I see, variety without power creep is good. I think the hull can be built as a tank fairly well, its also fast, not as heavy as a crusader, kind of like a drac version of the crusader in my eyes (My only beef here kix, FORESAKEN are supposed to be the specialist in ballistics hulls, why are you giving the dracs one? Could have been a new missile hull or nuke cruiser, let them find their own niche!   :p  ) again more variety without a super jump in power creep, though I believe this hull is right at the edge of serious power creep. The rest of the tech in the list, geeze pirates, if you dont  like it you dont have to go after it, get what you want next time it comes around! To my eyes this new set of ship/weapon is exactly what they promised us.

    Getting tired of all the rants, why does everybody seem to think they need all the tech right now? For that matter why does everybody seem to think they need ALL of the tech? Get what interest you, if that is attained (or un-attainable) get the next best, have some fun, help some little guys, and just enjoy! If you dont like the raid sit it out (what I did for the scourge raids, not only because of the fact my fleets were just not suited for those  raids, but because I simply am not much of a sub guy [admitted, those tigers are awefully nice...])  go build the other hulls everybody is yelling about not having time to build because of new stuff, lol, dont get the latest new stuff, build your other new stuff! Just saying.......
      Wasn't the first real ballistic hull a drac hull the original dread and was followed by the  battle ship
    The original dread wasnt a ballistic hull but alot of ppl made it into one. The stats doesnt have anything other than def boosts until u retrofit it it is turned into a ballistic hull
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  • BattleBarf
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    @lt_gen_soulhex129 said:
    Im surprised they have tridents in this raid.... its basically pointless and was out did right after the raid it was in with the blades. BTW FOR THOSE WHO GET IT THE COUNTERMEASURES DONT WORK ON REMOTE TARGET HULLS. found that out the hard way and if the missile range is higher than the countermeasure range

    Yes it does as long as the trident isn't firing missiles at a target. Have them on my rhinos and I can see them doing there job.

  • carl.wear.3
    carl.wear.3
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    Joined May 2013 Posts: 6,696
    Dredinar said:
    can you add the mastodon please. i know d5u might be asking too much, thank you.
    you could use the 1/2 repair to get the proto-mast from the campaign.
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