Would you be interested in these proposed changes to the Forsaken Arena?

  • DukeNukem01
    DukeNukem01
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    The Concept:

    We are thinking about making Forsaken Arena absolutely free and giving players an easy way to find and enjoy watching highly skilled players in FvF matches.

    Key Points:
    - Forsaken Arena will be free-to-play. No uranium required and repairs will be not be necessary.
    - Through a new filter in the Locator, you will be able to find and view live FvF matches between the highest-level players.
    - There will be slots up to 10 viewers allowed per battle to make viewing easier and more engaging.
    - With the Arena being absolutely free of any costs and repairs, there will be no VXP rewarded for these battles.


    How do you rate this concept? Vote below! Please feel free to leave your thoughts on your vote in the comments.
    I say neutral because I'd really have to see how it unfolds.  However, i like this idea better than the current and I even like the original method more than the current.
  • the zap
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    battles that mean nothing,i can get lotsa that from the other game,better graphics as well,how about work on the stuff you said u were gonna

    enuff of the gimmicks,get at it
  • BlackPoops98
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    edited 11 Jan 2016, 8:30PM
    I like ALL of these changes. 

    One thing that is not clear: Would the Arena keep the "bring your own fleet" format? Would the Arena Tournament keep the toybox format?

    I can only see this being successful if the whole Arena moves to toybox.

    If it is a bring your own fleet format then the winners are still the heavy coiners that have the latest tech. Nothing can stand against heavy cruisers or drac carriers except, well, heavy cruisers and drac carriers... or that wonderful Harlocks Arbalest + Zoe's Rhino fleet. In the existing Arena losing is not so discouraging because at least you are gaining VxP but if there is nothing to gain no one wants to go have their arse handed to them over and over again.

    Now if anyone can go in and build any fleet and change it out whenever they want to THEN it really because a skill tournament. The best skill at building fleets plus the best skill at driving means the winner. That I would play. 
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  • Fire_DS
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    Need to make it a toybox with equipent you have so that we can test builds before commiting to the long build times

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  • KrisK
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    The lack of repair costs is a step in the right direction, but the only down-side I see is not gaining VXP.
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  • corbin
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    Why??? just fix and balance the reg game

  • EvilGiantRobot
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    edited 11 Jan 2016, 8:42PM
    Honestly it's probably too late for most. Never been a fan of Arena and if there's no actual reward for doing it (other than to test your fleet in FvF) why bother... if vxp was left in then possibly worth it.
  • RainMakerX
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    what would be the reason for players to do arena fights? Prizes?
  • Lucky Luke
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    A vast majority of players dont play in the arena for one reason only.

    We are to busy doing chores.
  • Trogar
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    what would be the reason for players to do arena fights? Prizes?
    Free PvP battles from my understanding.
  • RainMakerX
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    Yeah well I dont see you getting top players to do arena for nothing... but good luck with that
  • kixeyeuser_5037668
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    i don't do the arena so not sure if the changes are good or otherwise that's why i went neutral with the vote. but the  no repair time always sounds good.
  • Admiral_Nelson
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    Sorry Doom it is not gonna work with a no reward system i suggest that players get a min reward of uri (amount) decided by doom (council) lol just for each fight so with time they can build up there uri stock.... (making sure its capped at a limit per day) this will encourage players to use it ... also leave the vxp bonuses in there but reduce the amount of vxp in half (due to the fact that the players don't have to repair boats)     IF U WANT PEEPS TO PLAY ARENA this will do it for most :)
  • The_Saint73
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    Like some of the others have commented, although moving in the direction of free repairs for some fun is a positive, I am not really sure what Kixeye is trying to achieve with this.  If there is no game progression from this and with all the other chores I personally will not spend valuable time in the Arena for no reward. I would rather see Kix fix the things they have said they were going to fix.  
    Also, not sure what benefit lower levels would get from just watching the battle unless they were able to see ship builds.
    Free is GOOD though Kix.
  • Judge Peps
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    just for fun FvF battles Im all for this, not uri used no repair cost, just fun sounds great.
  • Laredo
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    This post by DoomRooster is about the regular Arena we have available to use all the time.  NOT the Forsaken Arena Tournament.
  • la13maur
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    I like the idea, some VXP would be nice, maybe 10 total (half of normal battles).  Maybe incorporate shards for wins?
  • BananaMan1971
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    what would be interesting if it is free and no cost why not use it as a type of fleet testing ground be able to make different fleets for free like you do in the FAT's now so you dont own the fleet but before you put 3-4 month's in building the fleet you could actually test it out....just a thought
  • Rustdog
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    If this is a FIX or a Collusion to our Complainant's of Repair time's, Well it's nice for Nothing in return for PvP. Just not even close to where the main Problem's of the game, Your Team is not looking in the right place for helping the Paying Customer's with this one. Yes I like the Free part just not the NO reward part of it other then It's FREE!!! WoW!??
     Yes lot's of Player's will use it for helping them out with build's, Just the Team need's to look into the real Game play of the game not what the team said was going out of the game and this is where and Why most of the Player's of this game DO NOT CARE to Play This game no more Because of the Fact's that the Team is not working on WHAT'S Asked or NEEDED Most!!!

    Rustdog OUT!!!!!!
  • UberFoX360
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    Perfect way to test out my fleets in FvF Battles ^_^
  • bj3ns3n
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    good idea... but i for one rather see the real game get cheaper... will probably not be of much use for me.. fvf is great but its much more fun when you defending a base with your friends or trying to get in one :)
  • Snocky
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    my big worry is that you would then start releasing A FAT where hulls again become prizes, we already know where that went :(

    if people want to do FAT, trhat is up to them, personally i prefer it if people are actually playing the main game.

    As somone who jumps most weeks I see dead sectors in a lot of places, those with folks in, are busy doing FM chores or Uranium chores and have no time to talk :(

    Personally i think you should FOCUS on QUALITY rather than QUANTITY
  • kewlbrew
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    Make it free.  Keep the uranium payouts.  Provide useful prizes.  Limit sub contests to other sub fleets (and maybe fleets capable of detecting subs).  

    No one wants to be slaughtered by unfair stealth advantages (sub vs blind flt).  

    Even so with this, to me, this comes down to fleet builds and not combat skill and nets out to boring.

    -KB
  • WaterDog
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    would rather see more dedication to fixing all the problems that are still plaguing the game then add another thing to the game.. Not saying, but just saying.
  • AnEyeForAnEye
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    kewlbrew said:
    Make it free.  Keep the uranium payouts.  Provide useful prizes.  Limit sub contests to other sub fleets (and maybe fleets capable of detecting subs).  

    No one wants to be slaughtered by unfair stealth advantages (sub vs blind flt).  

    Even so with this, to me, this comes down to fleet builds and not combat skill and nets out to boring.

    -KB

    No Uranium payout in the  regular Arena, only daily crew and vxp. This is not for FAT it for the regular forgotten arena available 24/7.
  • sliceNdice
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    kewlbrew said:
    Make it free.  Keep the uranium payouts.  Provide useful prizes.  Limit sub contests to other sub fleets (and maybe fleets capable of detecting subs).  

    No one wants to be slaughtered by unfair stealth advantages (sub vs blind flt).  

    Even so with this, to me, this comes down to fleet builds and not combat skill and nets out to boring.

    -KB
    lol...

    I really don't think you can say there's a lack of combat skill when

    a.) It hasn't been released yet.

    and

    b.) If your idea of combat skill is having ANY FvF fleet without Thermal then you need to go back to FvF school...
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  • Shimoni
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    I like the idea, however, why do away with the VXP? According to the State of the Game, VXP is supposed to become easier to get, wouldn't this be an excellent, easy and fun way to achieve exactly this goal?
  • sliceNdice
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    Shimoni said:
    I like the idea, however, why do away with the VXP? According to the State of the Game, VXP is supposed to become easier to get, wouldn't this be an excellent, easy and fun way to achieve exactly this goal?
    VXP is already incredibly easy to get what with the VXP weekends. For the first time ever, ALL of my fleets are skulled. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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  • AnEyeForAnEye
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    Shimoni said:
    I like the idea, however, why do away with the VXP? According to the State of the Game, VXP is supposed to become easier to get, wouldn't this be an excellent, easy and fun way to achieve exactly this goal?


    Yeap it would be another regular option other then VXP weekend and salvages.

    But it obvious kixeye doesnt want to give anything for free, not even a bit of VXP. VXP weekend arent free and many coin during those.

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