January WIP Official Discussion

  • reverbra
    reverbra
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2015 Posts: 29

    Meh, not too exciting. Further repair reductions will be nice. Kix needs to look further into build/refit times. That is the biggest draw back for me, repair times are better now than they were.

    The repair of the new hulls yes and by those i say those after Aug 2015, The hulls you have and armor/rank make it go up in cost both in coin and repair time.
    Afull 53 HC fleet is 34 coins at 80% down, A grimshine and 4 novas is 82 coins. and the list go on and on. 
    The refit is bonkers still and so are the build a pure guard hull triton is 26 days and 18h, and that is the normal Triton! So yeah kix repair times and cost before you dump more sht in it as you have over the year`s but you are as stuborn as always ! 
  • reverbra
    reverbra
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    Joined Oct 2015 Posts: 29
    edited 6 Jan 2016, 9:27PM
    I have to second this...this past weekend (Thursday and on), I started the FM.  After completing a single 85, my base got hit, and my LP killed (along with my dock).  So, that's about 10 hours repair....I refused to coin it.  After it repaired, I MIGHT have had time to get to elite, but I thought about it, and came to the conclusion that I just didn't give an EFF.  I had better ways to spend my time.  I SO miss the days when I could complete the FM in 30 min to an hour, and then get on to doing things like ranking fleets, getting res (when needed), tweaking my base, hitting other bases, designing ships, etc.  As it is right now, more than half of my week in the game is taken up with trying to get to Elite twice and keep up with the RIDICULOUS rate of new tech.  It's just not fun...not fun at all.  At least if I go on top of the house and sweep of the roof next weekend instead of spending my time doing FM, I won't have to sweep it the weekend after, and then the next, and the next, etc.  Sad when sweeping off the roof is more satisfying than playing a computer game...
    You dont have to do it twice and if you do get tier 3 in one go well no biggi as the price in tier 4 will end up at times in tier 3 like speed system4 and the arblast to name 2. 
    And the bonus at tier4 is the also 40k u, you get butthat is one time only. And you say also that you could do it twice well 2 new in tier 3 each week. Not all do the fm to 50 mill each week either this look like the type of post we had when the tier3 came and only 65 at tops to do points so the 85 is better for all as you can do em with mercs both prep and do the base at time 1 fleet key is ball defence and missile ;) And my other base dont do tier4 all time i choose to ! 

  • bort
    bort
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 8,257
    err stating a fact is different from talking on behalf of all players. if you have the gear you can do it .. if you choose to.

    almost all of my group are doing the FM easily, and those that aren't are working towards it. 

    all i was saying is i am not a one off ....,
  • calamitouss
    calamitouss
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 72
    reverbra said:
    I have to second this...this past weekend (Thursday and on), I started the FM.  After completing a single 85, my base got hit, and my LP killed (along with my dock).  So, that's about 10 hours repair....I refused to coin it.  After it repaired, I MIGHT have had time to get to elite, but I thought about it, and came to the conclusion that I just didn't give an EFF.  I had better ways to spend my time.  I SO miss the days when I could complete the FM in 30 min to an hour, and then get on to doing things like ranking fleets, getting res (when needed), tweaking my base, hitting other bases, designing ships, etc.  As it is right now, more than half of my week in the game is taken up with trying to get to Elite twice and keep up with the RIDICULOUS rate of new tech.  It's just not fun...not fun at all.  At least if I go on top of the house and sweep of the roof next weekend instead of spending my time doing FM, I won't have to sweep it the weekend after, and then the next, and the next, etc.  Sad when sweeping off the roof is more satisfying than playing a computer game...
    You dont have to do it twice and if you do get tier 3 in one go well no biggi as the price in tier 4 will end up at times in tier 3 like speed system4 and the arblast to name 2. 
    And the bonus at tier4 is the also 40k u, you get butthat is one time only. And you say also that you could do it twice well 2 new in tier 3 each week. Not all do the fm to 50 mill each week either this look like the type of post we had when the tier3 came and only 65 at tops to do points so the 85 is better for all as you can do em with mercs both prep and do the base at time 1 fleet key is ball defence and missile ;) And my other base dont do tier4 all time i choose to ! 

    Ummm...I don't understand what the fork most of this is even saying.  Google translate must be broken....to address what I THINK you are saying:

    1.  I never said the U bonus was available twice.  Not the point.
    2.  The only reason I do the FM to elite the second time is for whatever I would get for elite that time,either another BP or tokens
    3.  I wasn't talking about people who DON'T do the FM to 50 mil...I was talking about myself.
    4.  Who knows what the rest of what you were trying to say even means....
    5.  http://www.grammar-monster.com/


  • Topper5
    Topper5
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    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 1,986
    Well, we got the answer: Nothing will change! Good luck captains.
  • thedragonslay3r
    thedragonslay3r
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 1,331
    bort said:
    bort said:
    err you've mixed up the order of the posts. Luke's response was to me saying you get 6 days to Shapu .. who does have the gear to be able to do it. I then questioned whether luke had the gear or not - ie whether he was in the same position as Shapu. Not sure what you're getting at.

    also if you have the gear and are not prepared to put in the effort that's on you. The option is there. Which i recommend all non coiners work towards. Many of us can knock an elite over in under an hour.
    Again you fail to grasp the obvious. You are claiming that players get 6 days of tokens a month. They do not. Players may choose to grind to get them. How are you failing to understand that?

    Secondly, what makes you say that I don't put forth the effort? Perhaps you meant, "Also if players have the gear and are not prepared to put in the effort that's on them.

    Finally, good for you that you are able to get 50Million points in 1 hour. Most players cannot complete the task in under an hour.
    dunno why you're getting those panties in a bunch.

    i'd say its a fact its possible to get at least 6 days of tokens a month. Player choice to do so or not is up to them.

    I don't pretend to speak on behalf of all players as others do sorry.

    It helps to play the game more efficiently though, if you can think of possibilities.
    LOL, your trolling is too funny. I like how you contradict yourself when you say that, "I don't pretend to speak on behalf of all players as others do sorry."
    directly after you post, "also if you have the gear and are not prepared to put in the effort that's on you. The option is there. Which i recommend all non coiners work towards. Many of us can knock an elite over in under an hour.".

    Do people ever take you seriously once they get to know you?


    I'm not in his clan, but we do know each other, and work together to make sure that our efforts are not for naught. There are people who, like us, like to work for cheap, or free if possible. So, in stating "Many of us can knock an elite over in under an hour" is not speaking for the entire Battle Pirates playerbase, but is, in FACT, speaking on behalf of those who, like us, strive to play the game on our terms and not Kixeye's.
    "We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." -Winston Churchill

    “We can throw stones, complain about them, stumble on them, climb over them, or build with them.” - William Arthur Ward

    "I get my tech. I do it for free. Kix ain't go no strings on me. Weeee!" -thedragonslay3r
  • James5446
    James5446
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 550
    all this complaining to kixeye about the weekly being boring, be careful what you wish for. they will add a drac base and just say "have fun with that"


  • darkriblet
    darkriblet
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 212
    So glad I bought Black Ops 3 instead of coining my tiger fleet....this game is a joke now.
    If you could complain about anything it should be about black Ops 3, you pay 60 dollars for the same game they put out every year and just change the name. lets not even talk about the extra 60 dollars you are going to pay for in DLC maps that you already paid for in past COD games. talk about a joke.
    Are you seriously trying to compare $60 a YEAR as opposed to the $700+ a month Kixeye wants you to spend to coin a new fleet after each raid?
    You must be smoking some strong stuff, lol
    you must be smoking strong stuff if you give kixeye 700+ a month they are lucky to get 10 every raid from me.  Haha yeah im the crazy one
  • kixeyeuser_1409250182434_100007814357803
    kixeyeuser_1409250182434_100007814357803
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    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 222
    So glad I bought Black Ops 3 instead of coining my tiger fleet....this game is a joke now.
    If you could complain about anything it should be about black Ops 3, you pay 60 dollars for the same game they put out every year and just change the name. lets not even talk about the extra 60 dollars you are going to pay for in DLC maps that you already paid for in past COD games. talk about a joke.
    Are you seriously trying to compare $60 a YEAR as opposed to the $700+ a month Kixeye wants you to spend to coin a new fleet after each raid?
    You must be smoking some strong stuff, lol
    you must be smoking strong stuff if you give kixeye 700+ a month they are lucky to get 10 every raid from me.  Haha yeah im the crazy one
    LOL!! Who said I give kixeye $700 + a month? I was referring to the OP who said he bought Black Ops 3 instead of coining his tiger fleet.
    Believe me, your $10 a month is a whole lot more than I give glitcheye.
  • Cannon99
    Cannon99
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 51
    D5M and piercing shells at a minimum should not be elite tier in the FM.  Please stop making nearly everything elite tier as you have been the past months.  Some of this stuff would barely be T3 value based on the amount of use it will get in the game.
  • kixeyeuser_1409250182434_100007814357803
    kixeyeuser_1409250182434_100007814357803
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    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 222
    edited 7 Jan 2016, 2:04AM

    I'm not in his clan, but we do know each other, and work together to make sure that our efforts are not for naught. There are people who, like us, like to work for cheap, or free if possible. So, in stating "Many of us can knock an elite over in under an hour" is not speaking for the entire Battle Pirates playerbase, but is, in FACT, speaking on behalf of those who, like us, strive to play the game on our terms and not Kixeye's.
    Ok....like I told your buddy, congrats on completing the Elite in under an hour. I happen to know many players who cannot get 50 million points in under an hour. Some are able to finish 1 single level 85 stronghold in an hour, not 9.
    Congrats on presumably having that many high-end, armoured fleets to auto all those 85's at once. Or, having a heavily armoured fleet(s) that can do 1 in about 5 min tanking all the damage.
    Must be nice having all that coin!! :p
  • darkriblet
    darkriblet
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    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 212
    edited 7 Jan 2016, 2:20AM

    I'm not in his clan, but we do know each other, and work together to make sure that our efforts are not for naught. There are people who, like us, like to work for cheap, or free if possible. So, in stating "Many of us can knock an elite over in under an hour" is not speaking for the entire Battle Pirates playerbase, but is, in FACT, speaking on behalf of those who, like us, strive to play the game on our terms and not Kixeye's.
    Ok....like I told your buddy, congrats on completing the Elite in under an hour. I happen to know many players who cannot get 50 million points in under an hour. Some are able to finish 1 single level 85 stronghold in an hour, not 9.
    Congrats on presumably having that many high-end, armoured fleets to auto all those 85's at once. Or, having a heavily armoured fleet(s) that can do 1 in about 5 min tanking all the damage.
    Must be nice having all that coin!! :p
    Though a lot use coins and they do auto 85s.. which I think is retarded (my personal opinion) with a good technique I take about 2hrs damage per run on an 85. thats with a frosty and 3 crusaders. I have friends that complete the 85s with 10 minutes of damage and finish both sets of elites the same day. Having as much time as they give you to complete the mini now I easily finish 50 mil with out that much grinding.

    edit: getting 50 mil in an hour though is pretty impressive I have to admit. It will be a long time before I can do that

  • Lucky Luke
    Lucky Luke
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 8,422
    bort said:
    sorry to hear you are unable to get the tokens then. and struggle with basic math.
    I dont see where i did any maths? But OK.
  • Dyeates
    Dyeates
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 2
    Can someone tell me what the Aegis Shards are? What do they do? Where are they after they are researched?
  • darkriblet
    darkriblet
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    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 212
    Dyeates said:
    Can someone tell me what the Aegis Shards are? What do they do? Where are they after they are researched?
    you need 250 shards to complete the hull, and they are located in the intel. lab under the limited section, there is a tab called shards look there
  • thedragonslay3r
    thedragonslay3r
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 1,331

    @darkriblet said:
    kixeyeuser_1409250182434_100007814357803 said:

    I'm not in his clan, but we do know each other, and work together to make sure that our efforts are not for naught. There are people who, like us, like to work for cheap, or free if possible. So, in stating "Many of us can knock an elite over in under an hour" is not speaking for the entire Battle Pirates playerbase, but is, in FACT, speaking on behalf of those who, like us, strive to play the game on our terms and not Kixeye's.

    Ok....like I told your buddy, congrats on completing the Elite in under an hour. I happen to know many players who cannot get 50 million points in under an hour. Some are able to finish 1 single level 85 stronghold in an hour, not 9.
    Congrats on presumably having that many high-end, armoured fleets to auto all those 85's at once. Or, having a heavily armoured fleet(s) that can do 1 in about 5 min tanking all the damage.
    Must be nice having all that coin!! :p

    Though a lot use coins and they do auto 85s.. which I think is retarded (my personal opinion) with a good technique I take about 2hrs damage per run on an 85. thats with a frosty and 3 crusaders. I have friends that complete the 85s with 10 minutes of damage and finish both sets of elites the same day. Having as much time as they give you to complete the mini now I easily finish 50 mil with out that much grinding.

    edit: getting 50 mil in an hour though is pretty impressive I have to admit. It will be a long time before I can do that

    I personally don't get there in an hour (yet) but I do take less than an hour's damage, which is actually cut down further because of my methods. In total, I spend probably 2 hours total **** time to get to Elite. And I'm a non-coiner, so everything I do, I do for free.

    "We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." -Winston Churchill

    “We can throw stones, complain about them, stumble on them, climb over them, or build with them.” - William Arthur Ward

    "I get my tech. I do it for free. Kix ain't go no strings on me. Weeee!" -thedragonslay3r
  • LtlAngryMeanDude
    LtlAngryMeanDude
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 459

    @darkriblet said:
    kixeyeuser_1409250182434_100007814357803 said:

    I'm not in his clan, but we do know each other, and work together to make sure that our efforts are not for naught. There are people who, like us, like to work for cheap, or free if possible. So, in stating "Many of us can knock an elite over in under an hour" is not speaking for the entire Battle Pirates playerbase, but is, in FACT, speaking on behalf of those who, like us, strive to play the game on our terms and not Kixeye's.

    Ok....like I told your buddy, congrats on completing the Elite in under an hour. I happen to know many players who cannot get 50 million points in under an hour. Some are able to finish 1 single level 85 stronghold in an hour, not 9.
    Congrats on presumably having that many high-end, armoured fleets to auto all those 85's at once. Or, having a heavily armoured fleet(s) that can do 1 in about 5 min tanking all the damage.
    Must be nice having all that coin!! :p

    Though a lot use coins and they do auto 85s.. which I think is retarded (my personal opinion) with a good technique I take about 2hrs damage per run on an 85. thats with a frosty and 3 crusaders. I have friends that complete the 85s with 10 minutes of damage and finish both sets of elites the same day. Having as much time as they give you to complete the mini now I easily finish 50 mil with out that much grinding.

    edit: getting 50 mil in an hour though is pretty impressive I have to admit. It will be a long time before I can do that

    I personally don't get there in an hour (yet) but I do take less than an hour's damage, which is actually cut down further because of my methods. In total, I spend probably 2 hours total **** time to get to Elite. And I'm a non-coiner, so everything I do, I do for free.


    i have videos of how Bort does it in an hour, I wouldn't suggest anyone use his methods as many get banned for doing it that way.
  • BloodRavenFavian
    BloodRavenFavian
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 8,212
    edited 7 Jan 2016, 5:53AM

    i have videos of how Bort does it in an hour, I wouldn't suggest anyone use his methods as many get banned for doing it that way.
    "Proof or gtfo," as they say. Otherwise, you're just bad-mouthing others with no proof. Which is not only against the rules, but....kinda sad.

    EDIT: if you're gonna post proof, do so elsewhere. Not here. No need to derail the thread further.
    We are always watching. Quiet ≠ safe.

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  • kixeyeuser_1409250182434_100007814357803
    kixeyeuser_1409250182434_100007814357803
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 222

    i have videos of how Bort does it in an hour, I wouldn't suggest anyone use his methods as many get banned for doing it that way.
    "Proof or gtfo," as they say. Otherwise, you're just bad-mouthing others with no proof. Which is not only against the rules, but....kinda sad.

    EDIT: if you're gonna post proof, do so elsewhere. Not here. No need to derail the thread further.
    No, what's really sad here is a MOD using such foul language. What if players told you to "gtfo" and stop being such a dbag?

    Also, why are you asking for proof when you know full well it can't be posted here???
  • Lucky Luke
    Lucky Luke
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 8,422

    i have videos of how Bort does it in an hour, I wouldn't suggest anyone use his methods as many get banned for doing it that way.
    Bort may be a touch condescending at times but please dont post such offensive crap.

    Thank you.
  • bort
    bort
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 8,257
    edited 7 Jan 2016, 7:32AM

    I'm not in his clan, but we do know each other, and work together to make sure that our efforts are not for naught. There are people who, like us, like to work for cheap, or free if possible. So, in stating "Many of us can knock an elite over in under an hour" is not speaking for the entire Battle Pirates playerbase, but is, in FACT, speaking on behalf of those who, like us, strive to play the game on our terms and not Kixeye's.
    Ok....like I told your buddy, congrats on completing the Elite in under an hour. I happen to know many players who cannot get 50 million points in under an hour. Some are able to finish 1 single level 85 stronghold in an hour, not 9.
    Congrats on presumably having that many high-end, armoured fleets to auto all those 85's at once. Or, having a heavily armoured fleet(s) that can do 1 in about 5 min tanking all the damage.
    Must be nice having all that coin!! :p
    err i dont coin at all. and you need one armored ship, the rest dont need armor, not one armored fleet ..... unfortunately i dont have auto fleets for 85s yet. workin on it though.


    bort said:
    sorry to hear you are unable to get the tokens then. and struggle with basic math.
    I dont see where i did any maths? But OK.

    sorry luke, that was for the math genius, not you.


    i have videos of how Bort does it in an hour, I wouldn't suggest anyone use his methods as many get banned for doing it that way.
    "Proof or gtfo," as they say. Otherwise, you're just bad-mouthing others with no proof. Which is not only against the rules, but....kinda sad.

    EDIT: if you're gonna post proof, do so elsewhere. Not here. No need to derail the thread further.
    my vids are on my youtube. they're not overly secretive so anyone could have a copy. can't see anyone getting banned for doing it how i do it though, unless controlling your fleet is now bannable? 

    Perhaps Angry Bro should watch it again so he learns how to play instead of constantly complaining?
  • Duckyyy
    Duckyyy
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    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 1,953
    James5446 said:
    all this complaining to kixeye about the weekly being boring, be careful what you wish for. they will add a drac base and just say "have fun with that"


    If you mean a normal drac base, i'd like that, especially if they gave good points. I'd love to hit drac bases and get good points towards my FM ;)

    Drac bases aren't to bad with the right fleets, but I suppose nothing in the game is to bad if you have the right fleets.
  • reverbra
    reverbra
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2015 Posts: 29
    edited 7 Jan 2016, 1:19PM

    Crafting

    We’ve been toying with the idea of using R&D to unlock the ability to craft blueprints using shards and pieces or de-constructing existing blueprints for materials. So far, this idea is still in its earliest conceptual stages. I look forward to your thoughts on this subject. 

    I SEE YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF KILLING THE GAME LIKE YOU DID WC,AND VEGAN SPACE SHT AND NOW IN TO BP !! Well crafting is a skill in mmorpg and this is a freemium game . it belong in games like withcher3 world of warcraft skip this or of yah do get me a log inn fee as this then cant be a freemium as this is the game that cost way to mutch for the bang you get for real and you mods cant say crap about that just try ;) Trogar i eat you in this forum before and i will do so to the end of bp ! 
  • BloodRavenFavian
    BloodRavenFavian
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 8,212
    edited 7 Jan 2016, 1:19PM
    reverbra said:

    Crafting

    We’ve been toying with the idea of using R&D to unlock the ability to craft blueprints using shards and pieces or de-constructing existing blueprints for materials. So far, this idea is still in its earliest conceptual stages. I look forward to your thoughts on this subject. 

    I SEE YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF KILLING THE GAME LIKE YOU DID WC,AND VEGAN SPACE SHT AND NOW IN TO BP !! Well crafting is a skill in mmorpg and this is a freemium game . it belong in games like withcher3 world of warcraft skip this or of yah do get me a log inn fee as this then cant be a freemium as this is the game that cost way to mutch for the bang you get for real and you mods cant say crap about that just try ;) Trogar i eat you in this forum before and i will do so to the end of bp ! 
    Dead Space 3. All of the Fallouts. Mass Effect 3. The Dead Rising series, and Im sure there's more out there. They have crafting, are not MMORPG's (they're more FPS' than anything), and are quite successful. Maybe you need to play more games and not go by clichés to see that it's not such a farfetch'd idea. It all depends on how it's implemented.

    We are always watching. Quiet ≠ safe.

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  • BloodRavenFavian
    BloodRavenFavian
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 8,212
    reverbra said:

    Crafting

    We’ve been toying with the idea of using R&D to unlock the ability to craft blueprints using shards and pieces or de-constructing existing blueprints for materials. So far, this idea is still in its earliest conceptual stages. I look forward to your thoughts on this subject. 

    I SEE YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF KILLING THE GAME LIKE YOU DID WC,AND VEGAN SPACE SHT AND NOW IN TO BP !! Well crafting is a skill in mmorpg and this is a freemium game . it belong in games like withcher3 world of warcraft skip this or of yah do get me a log inn fee as this then cant be a freemium as this is the game that cost way to mutch for the bang you get for real and you mods cant say crap about that just try ;) Trogar i eat you in this forum before and i will do so to the end of bp ! 
    Dead Space 3. All of the Fallouts. Mass Effect 3. The Dead Rising series, and Im sure there's more out there. They have crafting, are not MMORPG's (they're more FPS' than anything), and are quite successful. Maybe you need to play more games and not go by clichés to see that it's not such a farfetch'd idea. It all depends on how it's implemented.

    We are always watching. Quiet ≠ safe.

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  • Michael51814
    Michael51814
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2015 Posts: 320
    edited 7 Jan 2016, 1:34PM
    Using my heavy cruiser fleet I can do an entire elite tier of the FM without needing to repair if I drive them myself and leave the last two torp towers. Takes me just over an hour if I keep up with it.
  • Professor Yana
    Professor Yana
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    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 1,739
    edited 7 Jan 2016, 1:51PM
    reverbra said:

    Crafting

    We’ve been toying with the idea of using R&D to unlock the ability to craft blueprints using shards and pieces or de-constructing existing blueprints for materials. So far, this idea is still in its earliest conceptual stages. I look forward to your thoughts on this subject. 

    I SEE YOU LIKE THE IDEA OF KILLING THE GAME LIKE YOU DID WC,AND VEGAN SPACE SHT AND NOW IN TO BP !! Well crafting is a skill in mmorpg and this is a freemium game . it belong in games like withcher3 world of warcraft skip this or of yah do get me a log inn fee as this then cant be a freemium as this is the game that cost way to mutch for the bang you get for real and you mods cant say crap about that just try ;) Trogar i eat you in this forum before and i will do so to the end of bp ! 
    Dead Space 3. All of the Fallouts. Mass Effect 3. The Dead Rising series, and Im sure there's more out there. They have crafting, are not MMORPG's (they're more FPS' than anything), and are quite successful. Maybe you need to play more games and not go by clichés to see that it's not such a farfetch'd idea. It all depends on how it's implemented.

    Technically, the first two Fallout games were hybrid isometric action RPGs; not sure about Fallout: Tactics or Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, but Fallout 3 and on were the FPS/ARPG hybrids. (And I'm not sure that 1, 2, Tactics, or BoS had crafting in them, though they may well have had).
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  • reverbra
    reverbra
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2015 Posts: 29
    BlodRavenFavian! 

    A darn noob you are in games and gameing by that statement fallout 4 is more FPS,  Its more RPG explorer game you darn idiot! Tomb raider i bet you take that FPS game, FPS is battel field,cod,csgo ,starwars battel front are that ! ,

    MMORPG, ARE WORLD OF WARCRAFT,RUNESCAPE,LOTR, Heartstone 

    Moba games Smite,league of legends, dota 2, heroes of storm.


    Yeah and Minecraft it have crafting ol though not in a sim way but still....   
  • reverbra
    reverbra
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2015 Posts: 29
    And also DIABLO is the RPG THEN ````????? Idiot Am a jedi your a padawan in games ! 
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