market feedback and suggestion.
This is a little of both, features and feedback...
First the feedback.
There has been a lot of backlash about the black market lately, and rightly so. It is disgusting, our time spent logging in to the game is worth very little. 100 BA = 60 coins now... 5 days for a mid-high lvl player of grinding mission is equivalent to some kid spending $0.60 american... it's insulting. I'm not going to comment on the gamble as that has already been addressed by @CM LXC.
The feedback I am trying to give is that the coin rates in the black market makes players feel unappreciated unless we spend money. This reflects our initial concern of kixeye being pay to win. I know that isn't the intention, but I must convey my thoughts as a player.
Suggestions.
I would like to see some things in the BM that reward our time. Offer older event hulls, for BA.
For example, offer a zeal battleship for 150-200 BA. Not the blueprint, just 1 empty hull. This is a commensurate reward our hard work. 10 days of work a single ship is fair. This may take some effort to implement, but the added work is worth the reward of increased player loyalty and a willingness to coin more to support a fair game. Loyal players will coin to support a game if they believe the coins are a reward to the devs, not a requirement to be successful.
Tl:dr, the bm as it is now is bad mmmkay
just existing at this point
I remember that too. Where oh where did that go?
I thing is the proportion of BA to coins. Another thing is that it is much easier to get T3/T4 core box than to do the missions for BA.
What's the point of doing missions now?
Event items would be nice, I'd like to see Blueprint pieces added even if its 150 BA for 1 BP piece. And there should be a lot more items available. Why limit it to a dozen or so? Put in 100 items or at least 50, that will give more choices to people.
I would like to get your opinion on this. not an official word from kixeye if you cant give that, but your opinion would be greatly appreciated.
I would be more OK with something like blueprint hulls (e.g. apocs) in the black market (although you do realise we'd likely offer ships for coins alongside the ships for BA), because that is more inline with the black markets original purpose. This is a nicer compromise, because the hull is still obtainable by other means, you're just using Blood amber as a shortcut. This would also take the sting out of people who are screwed by the RNG, when bp hunting, since as long as you're doing missions when BP hunting, you'll still get access to the tech (however limited in scope).
Fun story time: A while ago, an idea for "hiring" ships for a limited time from the black market was floating around. You would spend your blood amber, and get access to limited (yes that means event) tech for a short amount of time (roughly 24 hours). I can try and resurrect that conversation, if you'd like.
how bout this
all ship bps are 8 pieces from regular tiers why not do the same for event tech and make each of the 8 pieces worth 200 ba... thatll get us working and also put multiple choices in each... forcing us to make a decision on what event ship we want to start earning bp pieces for 
... hows that sound LXC? besides who the **** knows what will come to this game a year to 2 years from now so when u get your event ship it might just be time for something that beats it is released
just existing at this point
Specifically I think an increase to the BA cap would alleviate the devaluation of players work and money. so for example, if the BA cap was 500, a zeal might not be out of the question. almost a month of work for one single ship seems more than fair. I think this would increase the depth of the game also. I don't think these ships should be coinable though, that devalues the almost full month spent playing.
Regarding the devaluation of players time though, the prices for BA and Coins aren't equitable. (please forgive me rebels) but the coin cost is too low. if players want to coin, fine, but our time should be valued more. a decrease for BA cost for boxes needs to be brought up if the coin cost isnt addressed.
I like the idea of renting hulls and if what I suggested isnt possible it could be a fair substitute. speculatively though, how do you feel about buying one ship for 500 BA?
Buying one ship for 500 BA isn't bad, but it's predicated on increasing the BA cap, which I don't see happening.
just existing at this point
I honestly can't see that idea being very popular. While it would serve our needs pretty well, I think the players might revolt.
Any hope of sending this combo idea up the chain? it adds many more possibilities for the creative team to play with too. More, longer reaching
missions, amber storage units, whatever haha.
I recall that too. I'm trying to compromise with what we have though. but as it is now, yeah I think the coin cost compared to the BA is way too low. yes I know what I'm saying, no I havent missed my medication.
just existing at this point
just existing at this point
I don't want to fixate on the hulls too much. I would like to see t1 or 2 or 3 tech in the BM too. Ship metaphase shields, gemini drivers, literallly anything that we can't get by grinding.
I don't like the idea of blueprints, especially if it's then offered for coins. That would truly make the game pay to win.
the idea of the BM was to offer past tech, and that idea has been swept under the rug lately.
If the BM offers past tech and is then coinable, it would be directly making those items coinable, further devaluing the time spent by the players. If I was able to use BA to get a single ship I would be inclined to use it immediately and i would probably coin the refit to use it. Seeing that previously the upgrades were one use only, I don't see 200 BA being unfair to the players who grinded for the event. They can build 100 where as I would only have 1. Please reconsider that tradeoff LXC.
So with the new coin deals, how is it that spending coins for a ship isn't devaluing players time spent gathering blueprints, yet buying one hull from the BM is?
I'm very surprised that implementing the black market in its current form was considered worth any development time at all.
Kixeye, you should be ashamed of yourself.
@CM LXC so now that hulls are introduced into the BM, for coin only, it seems pretty obvious that coins are the priority. Is there anything in the pipes to even the field for those that only use BA?
That currency feels highly devalued nowadays...
that is y the market is so expensive
wow seems all to possible doesnt it...