Official Dark Tide Discussion (Merged Thread)

  • Scullgirl
    Scullgirl
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 135
    siege is to hard for this lvl 72 and wont get enough points with strike so after 400k points I am taking my 40 something gold and the $50 fb card and waiting for an easier raid. Good luck to those who are still trying the raid

    Will Kix fix please fix something broke in the game without breaking 1 or more things as they do so?? 
  • simon.pugwash.9
    simon.pugwash.9
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2015 Posts: 2
    Increase to difficulty of recon from last raid is crazy- i've got a fleet at least five times as good (torrent BC's now, strike levi-A's then, with much better specials and retrofits now) and i'm taking more damage, and same points per completion- how are the people just starting supposed to have a hope?
  • Loco266
    Loco266
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Apr 2013 Posts: 5,725

    @Toy Jun Kie said:
    Specialist aka Specs said:


    damien.p.clarke said:


    Specialist aka Specs said:


    Benjar1981 said:

    Kinda curious as to why the tower outside my base says strike is worth 700K yet im 3 targets in and at 90K.  I guess the last two are gonna be worth a lot....smh

    700K is the bonus you get when completed, then you get some as you do the targets. Right now, you are at 790K when completed, not counting the last two, might get 900K for each completion. Meaning you need 6 of them to get the weapon pretty much.

    VERY ANGRY ABOUT THE STRIKE CAMPAIGN it is supposed to give 500k damage points and 700k completion bonus WHY DO YOU NERF THE POINTS FROM EVERY SINGLE PREVIOUS STRIKE CAMPAIGN !?!?!?!     IT EVEN SAYS 700K IN THE RELAY TOWER, BUT ONLY GIVES WHAT THE CAMPAIGN LIST STATES = 280K... DID I MENTION I'M ANGRY ABOUT THIS!?!?!?

    It is because you are over the level of the Strike :) You are not going to get the max points because of that. You are looking at about 440K I think others have said. You could help a lower level with theirs and see if you get 500K for the fleets that way.

    Did you really think you should get 1.2 million points for instant repair?

    Instant repair what game are you freaking playing. 12 hrs of repairs for 5 targets for that bullcrap 440k points because I don't have hundreds of dollars to piss away buying my fleets / refits / repairs every month .

    I get an hour or so from Strike if I'm careful. Between 1.1mil and 1.2mil per run.

    I won't say it's easy, not with the Javs in there, but it is doable IF you have the right stuff. Which is the problem I have with this raid. I have that stuff but most Strike level players don't.

    I'm starting to understand Magic Bunny's perspective...
  • Digits_Brigade
    Digits_Brigade
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 534
    I finished the Siege campaign.  It took two frosty/SCX arabalist fleets....Grimshire Berz/atlas carrier fleet....and Mastadon fleet....25 hours of repair for 3.5 million points.  Also as someone stated, the reaver ships are doing INSANE damage.  On Seige level 5, the first small/fast reaver ship killed half my frosty/scx fleet.....one reaver boat did this in just a few seconds.   Way over powered.   
  • Benjar1981
    Benjar1981
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 1,193
    Kinda curious as to why the tower outside my base says strike is worth 700K yet im 3 targets in and at 90K.  I guess the last two are gonna be worth a lot....smh
    700K is the bonus you get when completed, then you get some as you do the targets. Right now, you are at 790K when completed, not counting the last two, might get 900K for each completion. Meaning you need 6 of them to get the weapon pretty much.
    VERY ANGRY ABOUT THE STRIKE CAMPAIGN it is supposed to give 500k damage points and 700k completion bonus WHY DO YOU NERF THE POINTS FROM EVERY SINGLE PREVIOUS STRIKE CAMPAIGN !?!?!?!     IT EVEN SAYS 700K IN THE RELAY TOWER, BUT ONLY GIVES WHAT THE CAMPAIGN LIST STATES = 280K... DID I MENTION I'M ANGRY ABOUT THIS!?!?!?
    It is because you are over the level of the Strike :) You are not going to get the max points because of that. You are looking at about 440K I think others have said. You could help a lower level with theirs and see if you get 500K for the fleets that way.

    Did you really think you should get 1.2 million points for instant repair?
    I would really like to see insta repair fleet for strike.  My level 50 frost/crusader fleet, while it breezed through, still needed to come in and have some minutes of repair starting with level 3..and that fleet is bad ****. After 5 I had about 30-40 minute repair on it.  Way too much time and effort for a fleet of that caliber that I already worked hard on and to get.  Seems to me that if you worked your **** off to get one of those really nice fleets, then yes, some of this stuff should be frigging insta repair. FYI I used no crew, so that could make a difference.  Just for **** and giggles, someone asked how grims harlocks did in strike.  I obliged and did the whole set.  9 hours repair after finishing the whole thing.
  • the zap
    the zap
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 327
    fvck it,,maybe next month,,prolly not tho,,off to play that other game,,good luck all
  • Laredo
    Laredo
    Moderator
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 18,705
    Kinda curious as to why the tower outside my base says strike is worth 700K yet im 3 targets in and at 90K.  I guess the last two are gonna be worth a lot....smh
    700K is the bonus you get when completed, then you get some as you do the targets. Right now, you are at 790K when completed, not counting the last two, might get 900K for each completion. Meaning you need 6 of them to get the weapon pretty much.
    VERY ANGRY ABOUT THE STRIKE CAMPAIGN it is supposed to give 500k damage points and 700k completion bonus WHY DO YOU NERF THE POINTS FROM EVERY SINGLE PREVIOUS STRIKE CAMPAIGN !?!?!?!     IT EVEN SAYS 700K IN THE RELAY TOWER, BUT ONLY GIVES WHAT THE CAMPAIGN LIST STATES = 280K... DID I MENTION I'M ANGRY ABOUT THIS!?!?!?
    It is because you are over the level of the Strike :) You are not going to get the max points because of that. You are looking at about 440K I think others have said. You could help a lower level with theirs and see if you get 500K for the fleets that way.

    Did you really think you should get 1.2 million points for instant repair?
    I would really like to see insta repair fleet for strike.  My level 50 frost/crusader fleet, while it breezed through, still needed to come in and have some minutes of repair starting with level 3..and that fleet is bad ****. After 5 I had about 30-40 minute repair on it.  Way too much time and effort for a fleet of that caliber that I already worked hard on and to get.  Seems to me that if you worked your **** off to get one of those really nice fleets, then yes, some of this stuff should be frigging insta repair. FYI I used no crew, so that could make a difference.  Just for **** and giggles, someone asked how grims harlocks did in strike.  I obliged and did the whole set.  9 hours repair after finishing the whole thing.
    Look at the even briefing, the breakdown is there.  

    In all seriousness, did you really expect to take a high level fleet in recon or strike and get full points? 
  • Charlie Pugwash
    Charlie Pugwash
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 2,576
    The boost to difficulty of the siege campaign is just stupid- a fleet that could do the whole thing with health to spare last time got through less than half of it this time, for what looks like the same points. No ability to prep, everything is too fast/outranges you, eliminating all strategy.

    Forsaken rescue in target 2 siege is appallingly hard due to the stupid no credit if the target dies first rule- it's nigh impossible to strike the correct balance between anything surviving while the ships get out and the ships getting out at all.

    Sector points totals are totally screwed again- we've got far less high activity/level players this time, and just as many points needed as last raid. Also far less sector points avalible, due to lack of hellstar nexus or comparable boss target- bad show.

    Overall, absolutely nothing to like about this raid.

    -10/10.
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    • Raids Boycotted: Hellstrike, Lightning Carrier, Enforcer, Neptune- and at this rate, the entire upcoming Reaver raid series.

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  • Dare_Devil1
    Dare_Devil1
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 1,595
    agame2144 said:
    Zeus6927 said:
    Doomrooster said:


    The Reaver horde returns this month in their final push toward Forsaken dominance. You can re-examine their forces, weaknesses, and suggested tactics here. More information about the event will be made available next Tuesday!


    Not much has changed about these forces, which is good! Repeat encounters with the Reavers means we are more than prepared to face them head-on.
    Bullchit
    TOTALLY agree with ya...complete and utter bullshit statement!!!!...not much has changed my ****!!!!
    Last raid, my Frosty / SCX could take out the fast reavers for about 15 min damage, now 2 ships do about 2hrs worth.  Has been changed more dramatically than  I've ever seen.  
    Space Invaders elite player.
  • kewlbrew
    kewlbrew
    Potential Threat
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 91
    This game is like Game of Thrones.  Every time you think you may get an edge to help you advance, Kixeye gives you another Red Wedding.  With GoT, the author can just create some new characters to continue the fight.  With BP, players are learning faster and faster that this is a masochistic effort to "win".  Players will stop coming.  The theme song sung here in the discussion has been the same for a year's plus of raids.  I may poke around with this raid, but if it's as bad as depicted, I won't be playing long.  My coin stopped flowing months ago.  Maybe it's time to hang it up for good.

    -KB
    ... spending hours daily playing someone else's ship game for free because Kixeye can't see fit to make BP fun and affordable.
  • soloshooter
    soloshooter
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 596
    Seems that every raid time I get very annoyed. Screw these raids and the power creep!!!! Open Beta is available for World of Warships, gonna give it a try. Kix can kiss my Polish Keilbasa. This game if far from being fun as it used to be!!!!!!
    born in 495
  • Dare_Devil1
    Dare_Devil1
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 1,595
    Can Doomrooster confirm that the reaver cannons on the fast movers now have splash damage?  My frosty tank is leading but my SCX are taking damage despite not being hit.
    Space Invaders elite player.
  • Forget_Me Not
    Forget_Me Not
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jun 2015 Posts: 618
    mstary1 said:
    Can Doomrooster confirm that the reaver cannons on the fast movers now have splash damage?  My frosty tank is leading but my SCX are taking damage despite not being hit.
    They 100% do splash damage. I'm using wolves to painfully grind strike, they are using siege cannons of some sort. All of my ships take damage every time one hits the water.
  • vetehinen
    vetehinen
    Master Tactician
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 2,232
    Laredo said:

    Look at the even briefing, the breakdown is there.  

    In all seriousness, did you really expect to take a high level fleet in recon or strike and get full points? 
    This is the real problem ... not listening what we say !

    WE DID NOT ASK FULL POINTS ... LOTS OF US DID HELP LOWER LVL PLAYERS TO DO STRIKE FOR ABOUT 500k with no bonus 

    Last time i had 2 fleets i could do several runs in strike before repairing under that time my other fleet was repairing 

    I got about 1 h 30 min repairs for 5-6 sets ... now i get near 2 h for same fleet from one run ... so its 10 x harder this time ! 

    Also what is the BS with only giving 25 k from lvl 43 and having 35 % more sector points needed while cutting points from map targets ?
  • Benjar1981
    Benjar1981
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 1,193
    vetehinen said:
    Laredo said:

    Look at the even briefing, the breakdown is there.  

    In all seriousness, did you really expect to take a high level fleet in recon or strike and get full points? 
    This is the real problem ... not listening what we say !

    WE DID NOT ASK FULL POINTS ... LOTS OF US DID HELP LOWER LVL PLAYERS TO DO STRIKE FOR ABOUT 500k with no bonus 

    Last time i had 2 fleets i could do several runs in strike before repairing under that time my other fleet was repairing 

    I got about 1 h 30 min repairs for 5-6 sets ... now i get near 2 h for same fleet from one run ... so its 10 x harder this time ! 

    Also what is the BS with only giving 25 k from lvl 43 and having 35 % more sector points needed while cutting points from map targets ?
    This.  Yes.  Exactly.  I dont know how many sets of strike I went through the last couple raids using scx and v2h with very little damage.  and yes about 500 K a pop is right.
  • AnEyeForAnEye
    AnEyeForAnEye
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2014 Posts: 7,191
    edited 17 Jul 2015, 12:27AM
    My 1st impression is, im disapointed. The point cut down is a lot higher then id expected and worst is, strike dished out more dmg then last time.

    Last raid i was able to complete 5-7 campaigns with my 4 flt i got. This time i can barelly do 4 and i get way lesser ptn then before.

    I understand they dont want to give max ptn if your above in lvl(which mean jack ****), but id expect the dmg to also be lower. Ive already revised my prize list down cause it obvious i wont get the prizes i wanted with the ptn 60 % lower then i expected with higher dmg. Ive also revised my willingness to coin(was willing to drop 20$ this month, guess ill keep it for next month or spend it elsewhere in my upcoming vacation time). No point coining if you wont get what you want with the budget you got. With the same ptn/dmg as last month strike, it would have been worth it, but like this, it isnt.

    Now if the strike gave out 700k with lesser ptn per target, id say, well at least the bonus is worth it. but right now, it just isnt at my lvl and siege/elite are out of my league. So ill grind and grab lesser prizes for free. 
  • Dare_Devil1
    Dare_Devil1
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 1,595
    UAC.R6 said:
    mstary1 said:
    Can Doomrooster confirm that the reaver cannons on the fast movers now have splash damage?  My frosty tank is leading but my SCX are taking damage despite not being hit.
    They 100% do splash damage. I'm using wolves to painfully grind strike, they are using siege cannons of some sort. All of my ships take damage every time one hits the water.
    Reavers have Earth shaker cannons with really long range. explains the over the top damage. 
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  • D1rew0lf
    D1rew0lf
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 153
    mstary1 said:
    UAC.R6 said:
    mstary1 said:
    Can Doomrooster confirm that the reaver cannons on the fast movers now have splash damage?  My frosty tank is leading but my SCX are taking damage despite not being hit.
    They 100% do splash damage. I'm using wolves to painfully grind strike, they are using siege cannons of some sort. All of my ships take damage every time one hits the water.
    Reavers have Earth shaker cannons with really long range. explains the over the top damage. 
    I can confirm they're using the Earth Shaker cannons; similar look as the guns and splash. Only difference is (of course) the Reavers have longer range with their guns. Why? Their ships are so darn ramshackle, they should be tearing apart with how many guns they carry...and Kixeye better not say it's because their tech is more advanced!
  • Loco266
    Loco266
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Apr 2013 Posts: 5,725

    @mstary1 said:
    Can Doomrooster confirm that the reaver cannons on the fast movers now have splash damage?  My frosty tank is leading but my SCX are taking damage despite not being hit.

    They're Earthshakers. Earthshakers have splash.

    I'm starting to understand Magic Bunny's perspective...
  • NM-Executioner
    NM-Executioner
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 1,877
    this raids to hard 250k points n fleet is down like for 10 hours cheers  go bk to were raids was fun kixeye i may play them again  these reaver ships have always been  stupidly hard dont no wa kixeye r smoking but this aint the way to make al u customers happy oh wait u just like the coiners us non  big coiners aint got a  hope in hell
    reduced repair and builds times wont happen kixeye said 6 months ago they looking into it umm whats too look into there kixeye i dont see what your looking at?
  • kixeyeuser_1380939421637_24634_706723076
    kixeyeuser_1380939421637_24634_706723076
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jan 2015 Posts: 55
    I agree, this raid terrible. Kixeye really nerfed it for coops as well. Totally not worth doing this raid. Kixeye is killing game. Dump all this new tech that takes months to build. Go back to the old raids that were fun. Really getting disgusted with this game.
  • Bubba L
    Bubba L
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2014 Posts: 10
    2 raids ago I was 3rd in my sector with over 50 mil using my v2h fleet only, last raid same fleet won all i wanted to get. This raid doing strike campaign I had to repair fleet after first 3 levels of strike and the 4th and 5th level killed my fleet again. I would say you cranked up the damage just a little bit. And those Jav's are ridiculous. Wont be doing this raid unless there is a miracle.
  • RRRNick
    RRRNick
    Potential Threat
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 26
    Doom, I appreciate you putting all the info out early regarding the new ship and weapon.  Any chance you can tell us if an S version is coming and maybe how soon?  :)  I hate refitting.
  • ya mum
    ya mum
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jun 2011 Posts: 259
    are use **** stupid most cant hit a dredge with reaver javs now theres 2 in a strike campaign my v2c with cryo cant even do a set before dead what a **** joke we cant even build a better fleet before next raid for **** sake 
  • BlackPoops98
    BlackPoops98
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 880
    The event briefing looked so positive! Then I go into Strike campaign and I take 50% damage on a fleet that was able to do 4 back to back strike campaigns last raid for the same 50% damage. 

    W T F
    BlackPoops98
    <-- Firing massive chunks of black poo since '98 -->

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  • A-Team_Ken_F
    A-Team_Ken_F
    Greenhorn
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 8
    Kixeye you really need to bring back the other map targets this is ridiculous there was no reason at all to remove them, other than to stick it to us once again. So what is the brilliant reason for removing the coop map targets anyways. lol yeah that's an answer I wont get. 
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