Dark Tide Tips & Tricks Discussion

  • crazyjr123
    crazyjr123
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 396
    While it looks like a step, in the right direction, for the players. The skeptic in me knows, they will probably screw it up. I'm being absolutely honest here, Doomrooster has lost a huge amount of credibility, thanks to last months botching of the raid info. He should never have said unlimited, when it was still being drawn out and planned. Talking about it is one thing, Laying it out as he did, wasn't wise at all though.

    Now the coming raid, Doomrooster said, on the BV show, That the bonuses would not be effected by the reduction. How accurate is this info? Is it set in stone? Or, Is it still in planning? Should we stock up on Lube or be happy? These are my questions.

    That said, I will be grinding the strike campaign, with my level 70 base, No matter the screw job. I might coin, if i feel the points to damage is favorable, But that's entirely up to you kixeye. I'm getting a 25.00 FB card, Whether it's used as BP gold or something else. We'll see.
  • The_Professor
    The_Professor
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 737
    While it looks like a step, in the right direction, for the players. The skeptic in me knows, they will probably screw it up. I'm being absolutely honest here, Doomrooster has lost a huge amount of credibility, thanks to last months botching of the raid info. He should never have said unlimited, when it was still being drawn out and planned. Talking about it is one thing, Laying it out as he did, wasn't wise at all though.

    Now the coming raid, Doomrooster said, on the BV show, That the bonuses would not be effected by the reduction. How accurate is this info? Is it set in stone? Or, Is it still in planning? Should we stock up on Lube or be happy? These are my questions.

    That said, I will be grinding the strike campaign, with my level 70 base, No matter the screw job. I might coin, if i feel the points to damage is favorable, But that's entirely up to you kixeye. I'm getting a 25.00 FB card, Whether it's used as BP gold or something else. We'll see.
    All info is subject to change...
  • jt.smith.1023611
    jt.smith.1023611
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 19
    what I don't understand is what campaign's are the ones we get to do the ones like eye of storm or a hole new one ?  
  • sinista
    sinista
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 1,752
    what I don't understand is what campaign's are the ones we get to do the ones like eye of storm or a hole new one ?  
    during the raid special raid campaigns pop up in the menu, after the raid they go away

    When it comes to Kixeye, hope for the best but expect the worse.
  • crazyjr123
    crazyjr123
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 396
    edited 13 Jul 2015, 1:05AM
    While it looks like a step, in the right direction, for the players. The skeptic in me knows, they will probably screw it up. I'm being absolutely honest here, Doomrooster has lost a huge amount of credibility, thanks to last months botching of the raid info. He should never have said unlimited, when it was still being drawn out and planned. Talking about it is one thing, Laying it out as he did, wasn't wise at all though.

    Now the coming raid, Doomrooster said, on the BV show, That the bonuses would not be effected by the reduction. How accurate is this info? Is it set in stone? Or, Is it still in planning? Should we stock up on Lube or be happy? These are my questions.

    That said, I will be grinding the strike campaign, with my level 70 base, No matter the screw job. I might coin, if i feel the points to damage is favorable, But that's entirely up to you kixeye. I'm getting a 25.00 FB card, Whether it's used as BP gold or something else. We'll see.
    All info is subject to change...
    That's the point of my post, My views and concerns, mixed with my hopes it will at least be decent. But colliding, with my natural skepticism. Sorry Kixeye, I want to believe the things Doom says, but been burned too many times by other CM's. The fact that Doom has lost credibility, in my eyes, has nothing to do with the contempt i have for kixeye as a whole

    However, we all know there is a caveat. That being Kixeye's desire to profit, over Players actually having a fun raid.


    I love this game, Just hate seeing the profit over enjoyment management style. If the game were more manageable and fun, I would coin more.

    Just some thoughts to kixeye
  • RainbowPride
    RainbowPride
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 644
    garryhj said:
    Strange but I thought last mpnth was supposed to be the LAST Reaver raid.

    I also expected the July raid to be a hull store raid just as it has been in previous years.

    Kixeye better get their crap together and fast because WoWS is now in open beta and it's a hell of a lot more fun than BP.
    What I find funny is that so many people continue to threaten Kixeye with this new game that is still in Beta. Yes-it is FREE for now-but seriously-do you REALLY think it will remain free after Beta? Lol. Instead of wasting everyone's time with threats to quit and go to WoW-just go. Really.
    considering that world of tanks and world of warplanes are 100% free to play and they are all made by wargaming, yes it will remain FREE after beta. yes you can purchase premium time and premium ships BUT unlike battle pirates you dont HAVE to spend money to keep up and be competitive. and i dont see it as "wasting" people's time i see it as players trying to open kixeye's eyes to the loss of interest/fun and hope they pick up on it and start listening to the players instead of the whales.
    Well, using your definition Battle Pirates is 100% free to play, you just have to pay for premium time, and premium ships :)

    You do not have to spend money to keep up in Battle Pirates, eventually you can build everything.
     dont know many games where it takes 30 days + for 1 single ship vuild dear, or a 10 day + turret fitting, or a outpost upgrading in 18 days
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    garryhj said:
    Strange but I thought last mpnth was supposed to be the LAST Reaver raid.

    I also expected the July raid to be a hull store raid just as it has been in previous years.

    Kixeye better get their crap together and fast because WoWS is now in open beta and it's a hell of a lot more fun than BP.
    What I find funny is that so many people continue to threaten Kixeye with this new game that is still in Beta. Yes-it is FREE for now-but seriously-do you REALLY think it will remain free after Beta? Lol. Instead of wasting everyone's time with threats to quit and go to WoW-just go. Really.
    considering that world of tanks and world of warplanes are 100% free to play and they are all made by wargaming, yes it will remain FREE after beta. yes you can purchase premium time and premium ships BUT unlike battle pirates you dont HAVE to spend money to keep up and be competitive. and i dont see it as "wasting" people's time i see it as players trying to open kixeye's eyes to the loss of interest/fun and hope they pick up on it and start listening to the players instead of the whales.
    Well, using your definition Battle Pirates is 100% free to play, you just have to pay for premium time, and premium ships :)

    You do not have to spend money to keep up in Battle Pirates, eventually you can build everything.
     dont know many games where it takes 30 days + for 1 single ship vuild dear, or a 10 day + turret fitting, or a outpost upgrading in 18 days
    That is just it, there is not any other games that are similar to this one :)

    You have some that have the base building aspect, with an army that when it dies you lose it 100%. Not limp back to base to be repaired. You have games where you have ships that you can fight others with, and that is it. You do not get to build them with special weapons, components, or armor. You get a ship and that is all you have, it come pre-built and you just go and play.

    To keep trying to compare this game to another game is a futile attempt at making your point mean something. When in reality, the points made about how bad this game are and how great another is, just underscores the mentality of being entitled to free entertainment by a certain segment of the gaming population.
  • RainbowPride
    RainbowPride
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 644
    garryhj said:
    Strange but I thought last mpnth was supposed to be the LAST Reaver raid.

    I also expected the July raid to be a hull store raid just as it has been in previous years.

    Kixeye better get their crap together and fast because WoWS is now in open beta and it's a hell of a lot more fun than BP.
    What I find funny is that so many people continue to threaten Kixeye with this new game that is still in Beta. Yes-it is FREE for now-but seriously-do you REALLY think it will remain free after Beta? Lol. Instead of wasting everyone's time with threats to quit and go to WoW-just go. Really.
    considering that world of tanks and world of warplanes are 100% free to play and they are all made by wargaming, yes it will remain FREE after beta. yes you can purchase premium time and premium ships BUT unlike battle pirates you dont HAVE to spend money to keep up and be competitive. and i dont see it as "wasting" people's time i see it as players trying to open kixeye's eyes to the loss of interest/fun and hope they pick up on it and start listening to the players instead of the whales.
    Well, using your definition Battle Pirates is 100% free to play, you just have to pay for premium time, and premium ships :)

    You do not have to spend money to keep up in Battle Pirates, eventually you can build everything.
     dont know many games where it takes 30 days + for 1 single ship vuild dear, or a 10 day + turret fitting, or a outpost upgrading in 18 days
    That is just it, there is not any other games that are similar to this one :)

    You have some that have the base building aspect, with an army that when it dies you lose it 100%. Not limp back to base to be repaired. You have games where you have ships that you can fight others with, and that is it. You do not get to build them with special weapons, components, or armor. You get a ship and that is all you have, it come pre-built and you just go and play.

    To keep trying to compare this game to another game is a futile attempt at making your point mean something. When in reality, the points made about how bad this game are and how great another is, just underscores the mentality of being entitled to free entertainment by a certain segment of the gaming population.
    if you dont compare games with one another your not helping the developers get key facts on what changes or tweaks can benefit thier game and create a happier player base, and better structure ingame for the company, we could even compare war commander with battle pirates, a few features were imported over from war commander to this one, some of wich the player base had extreme dislike or extreme love for, feed back wether of praise, criticism or comparison is all good in the fact it gives kixeye employees a better understanding of what needs working on, no not every change the players suggest would be implimented some ideas our community have is plain outrageous, however a middle ground can be built around ideas.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    if you dont compare games with one another your not helping the developers get key facts on what changes or tweaks can benefit thier game and create a happier player base, and better structure ingame for the company, we could even compare war commander with battle pirates, a few features were imported over from war commander to this one, some of wich the player base had extreme dislike or extreme love for, feed back wether of praise, criticism or comparison is all good in the fact it gives kixeye employees a better understanding of what needs working on, no not every change the players suggest would be implimented some ideas our community have is plain outrageous, however a middle ground can be built around ideas.
    You cannot compare an apple to an orange. What might work in one game, will not work in another. Due to many factors, that would take a few thousands posts to explain.

    The truth is that the players have asked for a very long time to have all campaigns opened to everyone. That they would accept even less points if they could grind on a lower campaign. We are going to get that in this raid, and what is the response from those same players? They are already saying that if the cut in points is too much it will be a failure.

    Sorry, there is not middle ground to be had with those players.
  • RainbowPride
    RainbowPride
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 644
    if you dont compare games with one another your not helping the developers get key facts on what changes or tweaks can benefit thier game and create a happier player base, and better structure ingame for the company, we could even compare war commander with battle pirates, a few features were imported over from war commander to this one, some of wich the player base had extreme dislike or extreme love for, feed back wether of praise, criticism or comparison is all good in the fact it gives kixeye employees a better understanding of what needs working on, no not every change the players suggest would be implimented some ideas our community have is plain outrageous, however a middle ground can be built around ideas.
    You cannot compare an apple to an orange. What might work in one game, will not work in another. Due to many factors, that would take a few thousands posts to explain.

    The truth is that the players have asked for a very long time to have all campaigns opened to everyone. That they would accept even less points if they could grind on a lower campaign. We are going to get that in this raid, and what is the response from those same players? They are already saying that if the cut in points is too much it will be a failure.

    Sorry, there is not middle ground to be had with those players.
    you cant please everyone dear, there will always be improvements and nerfing, change makes things interesting, and yes some players are fickle they say they want 1 thing and when they get it, it may not be how they wanted it exactly then they start an uproar, there will always be players like that, i like a challenge, i will still try out the strike campeign as my ship should be able to do it. if it cannot i shall resort to recons at a reduced payout and do well with it, kixeye does need to make money to keep the game running, most of the free players do not take this into account or simply just want everything to be easy, if a player beats them with newly won tech a day into the raid or 1 week after with 1 fleet, thier called a coiner and abused verbally usualy this involves the accuser of saying money does not buy skill, however they are wrong, the actual contributors to this game get thier ships built early to test out builds no not every build will be perfect, and most players will say a ship does terribly, but they need to take into account it may take a week or two for the right ship spec ratio to come into effect for a great base hitting or defending fleet, contributors also keep the game going, they should not expect that kixeye will keep a game going completely free, thats ludicrous especialy with expences and staff to pay.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    if you dont compare games with one another your not helping the developers get key facts on what changes or tweaks can benefit thier game and create a happier player base, and better structure ingame for the company, we could even compare war commander with battle pirates, a few features were imported over from war commander to this one, some of wich the player base had extreme dislike or extreme love for, feed back wether of praise, criticism or comparison is all good in the fact it gives kixeye employees a better understanding of what needs working on, no not every change the players suggest would be implimented some ideas our community have is plain outrageous, however a middle ground can be built around ideas.
    You cannot compare an apple to an orange. What might work in one game, will not work in another. Due to many factors, that would take a few thousands posts to explain.

    The truth is that the players have asked for a very long time to have all campaigns opened to everyone. That they would accept even less points if they could grind on a lower campaign. We are going to get that in this raid, and what is the response from those same players? They are already saying that if the cut in points is too much it will be a failure.

    Sorry, there is not middle ground to be had with those players.
    you cant please everyone dear, there will always be improvements and nerfing, change makes things interesting, and yes some players are fickle they say they want 1 thing and when they get it, it may not be how they wanted it exactly then they start an uproar, there will always be players like that, i like a challenge, i will still try out the strike campeign as my ship should be able to do it. if it cannot i shall resort to recons at a reduced payout and do well with it, kixeye does need to make money to keep the game running, most of the free players do not take this into account or simply just want everything to be easy, if a player beats them with newly won tech a day into the raid or 1 week after with 1 fleet, thier called a coiner and abused verbally usualy this involves the accuser of saying money does not buy skill, however they are wrong, the actual contributors to this game get thier ships built early to test out builds no not every build will be perfect, and most players will say a ship does terribly, but they need to take into account it may take a week or two for the right ship spec ratio to come into effect for a great base hitting or defending fleet, contributors also keep the game going, they should not expect that kixeye will keep a game going completely free, thats ludicrous especialy with expences and staff to pay.
    I never aim to please anyone, I aim to please myself. If I am happy, and having fun that is all matters to me. 

    I just wish Kixeye would stop trying to give them what they want, because in the end they will just want more and more and destroy the game with BS that has not real tangible benefits to me.
  • AnEyeForAnEye
    AnEyeForAnEye
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2014 Posts: 7,191
    if you dont compare games with one another your not helping the developers get key facts on what changes or tweaks can benefit thier game and create a happier player base, and better structure ingame for the company, we could even compare war commander with battle pirates, a few features were imported over from war commander to this one, some of wich the player base had extreme dislike or extreme love for, feed back wether of praise, criticism or comparison is all good in the fact it gives kixeye employees a better understanding of what needs working on, no not every change the players suggest would be implimented some ideas our community have is plain outrageous, however a middle ground can be built around ideas.
    You cannot compare an apple to an orange. What might work in one game, will not work in another. Due to many factors, that would take a few thousands posts to explain.

    The truth is that the players have asked for a very long time to have all campaigns opened to everyone. That they would accept even less points if they could grind on a lower campaign. We are going to get that in this raid, and what is the response from those same players? They are already saying that if the cut in points is too much it will be a failure.

    Sorry, there is not middle ground to be had with those players.
    If they cut  down ptn too drastically it will drestoy the entire point of opening them up to everyone.

    Im not saying they shouldnt cut ptn down, just dont cut them to the ptn it will be pointless and you wont have any better option then we had before.

    Even more expecially if they base it on base lvl and not flt lvl. I can understand not wanting to give ptn to player using crusaders ina recon, but if a lvl 80 player uses mercs in strike, should he get his ptn cut down ? He's using the same flt the lvl 46-59 are using, why he cant do siege since it the best flt he got since he missed a few motnh are year or content. Not every lvl 60+, heck even 70+, got all the latest flt of the last 6 months. Some missed out on tech and hulls. 

    Player have asked for more doable raid, or at least more option base on tech owned. But if they get there ptn cut down drastically only becasue they dont have the tech to hit higher, then it defeats the entire prupose of it.

    It been said many times in the past since the inception of lvl limits in campaign, LVL ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF TECH OWNED. They should put a flt lvl limit not a base limit. They should penalize on flt lvl, not base lvl.

    What if a lvl 100 decided he doesnt want to coin it out this time and take a break or grind it out by doin recon using SW, should he get his ptns decreased?

    It about option and putting limits where limits should be put and establishing proper limits factors.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395


    What if a lvl 100 decided he doesnt want to coin it out this time and take a break or grind it out by doin recon using SW, should he get his ptns decreased?

    If all a 100 can hit is Recon for free, then yes they should limit it by a lot. There comes a time when the player has to move beyond researched hulls, and tech and join the real game.

    If he helped a player do their recon, they would get about 65K pts, why should he get more than that?
  • michaelg21
    michaelg21
    Master Tactician
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 2,187


    What if a lvl 100 decided he doesnt want to coin it out this time and take a break or grind it out by doin recon using SW, should he get his ptns decreased?

    If all a 100 can hit is Recon for free, then yes they should limit it by a lot. There comes a time when the player has to move beyond researched hulls, and tech and join the real game.

    If he helped a player do their recon, they would get about 65K pts, why should he get more than that?
    All of the posts after I made the one above about WoW shows exactly like someone else pointed out above also. A significant percentage of players on THIS game and likely all games EXPECT to have EVERYTHING in the game given to them-from the start and for free because in their minds "they deserve it". Many players think "it's not fair that I have to research things and wait"-because other players(even though they have played longer) have these things and they don't. They are offended that some have spent the "time" and others have spent "coin" to get the things they want. So many people I see posting on comms-"I would NEVER coin or give Kix one cent of my money"-but 5 min later are crying because their fleet got taken out or base smashed. Obviously the game isn't perfect-few are. But-quit being babies about not having the fleets or skill to beat the raids, etc-if you really want to you can-just quit being lazy or cheap.
  • LUCKY996
    LUCKY996
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Nov 2014 Posts: 659
    edited 13 Jul 2015, 8:47PM
    While it looks like a step, in the right direction, for the players. The skeptic in me knows, they will probably screw it up. I'm being absolutely honest here, Doomrooster has lost a huge amount of credibility, thanks to last months botching of the raid info. He should never have said unlimited, when it was still being drawn out and planned. Talking about it is one thing, Laying it out as he did, wasn't wise at all though.

    Now the coming raid, Doomrooster said, on the BV show, That the bonuses would not be effected by the reduction. How accurate is this info? Is it set in stone? Or, Is it still in planning? Should we stock up on Lube or be happy? These are my questions.

    That said, I will be grinding the strike campaign, with my level 70 base, No matter the screw job. I might coin, if i feel the points to damage is favorable, But that's entirely up to you kixeye. I'm getting a 25.00 FB card, Whether it's used as BP gold or something else. We'll see.
    All info is subject to change...
    That's the point of my post, My views and concerns, mixed with my hopes it will at least be decent. But colliding, with my natural skepticism. Sorry Kixeye, I want to believe the things Doom says, but been burned too many times by other CM's. The fact that Doom has lost credibility, in my eyes, has nothing to do with the contempt i have for kixeye as a whole

    However, we all know there is a caveat. That being Kixeye's desire to profit, over Players actually having a fun raid.


    I love this game, Just hate seeing the profit over enjoyment management style. If the game were more manageable and fun, I would coin more.

    Just some thoughts to kixeye
    I'm with you on this. Kix has shown way too many times that what is announced will be changed once the raid starts. It is like they only say what it takes to make people feel they have a chance and they go buy coins. Then raid starts and it's been changed and kix hides behind the "subject to change" bs.

    As for doom, ya he has zero creds anymore and when I see any comment from him I'm glad I don't have smellovision on this laptop.
  • DOG1
    DOG1
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 19
    destroyU0 said:
    Honestly, I think the devs made the right choice with this idea and have a really good chance at making this an awesome and fun raid format.
    I'm excited to see how this plays out.

    dont get to excited  thy **** it up some way r other its kixx we on about lol

  • vetehinen
    vetehinen
    Master Tactician
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 2,232
    edited 13 Jul 2015, 10:26AM
    vetehinen said:
    Is that counter personal or sector wide ? 800 ships sounds a bit high if one target has 3 and whole set 15 thats like over 50 sets .

    And prize for that is one RANDOM CREW ?

    Whats these other icons ? Nemesis and what ?

    When we take history in count then the scaling of base limits are lvl over 80+ do not get any points ... thats about what happened every time there been a limit ... XMAS 2012 i was ONE lvl too high so i got 25 % less points from only target that had damage / point so player could grind them. Think i was lvl 50 then and lvl 60 players had - 50 % and lvl 70 had - 100 % ... thats the kix way 

    So i wait now that i even get less points and bonuses from siege than last time .
    The prize isnt random. Its the "Elite Mercenaries" crew shown on the tips and tricks (that's the name of the crew). The icons will be explained more hopefully when the briefing comes out. 
    Icon 1 is sector stat boosts
    Icon 2 is mentioned already
    Icon 3 shows number of proto/hellstar won in last hour.
    Icon 1 ... right 

    icon 2 ... that was clear 

    icon 3 ... what a fliping joke ... proton / hells won in last hour  :D ... one event we won 1 proton in 96 hour ...next we won 1 hell star in 96 hour 

    or do they now start dropping like candy from heaven ... oh wait candy dont drop from heaven you need to BUY it ! 

    If that counter is sector wide ( 800 rescued ships ) it totally screws sector with few active players .


  • tanstaafl2
    tanstaafl2
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Apr 2015 Posts: 141
    vetehinen said:

    icon 3 ... what a fliping joke ... proton / hells won in last hour  :D ... one event we won 1 proton in 96 hour ...next we won 1 hell star in 96 hour

    Maybe that icon is global, and replaces the "some player in some sector you can't reach won this and you didn't nyah nyah" spam messaging...
  • The_Professor
    The_Professor
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 737
    vetehinen said:
    vetehinen said:
    Is that counter personal or sector wide ? 800 ships sounds a bit high if one target has 3 and whole set 15 thats like over 50 sets .

    And prize for that is one RANDOM CREW ?

    Whats these other icons ? Nemesis and what ?

    When we take history in count then the scaling of base limits are lvl over 80+ do not get any points ... thats about what happened every time there been a limit ... XMAS 2012 i was ONE lvl too high so i got 25 % less points from only target that had damage / point so player could grind them. Think i was lvl 50 then and lvl 60 players had - 50 % and lvl 70 had - 100 % ... thats the kix way 

    So i wait now that i even get less points and bonuses from siege than last time .
    The prize isnt random. Its the "Elite Mercenaries" crew shown on the tips and tricks (that's the name of the crew). The icons will be explained more hopefully when the briefing comes out. 
    Icon 1 is sector stat boosts
    Icon 2 is mentioned already
    Icon 3 shows number of proto/hellstar won in last hour.
    Icon 1 ... right 

    icon 2 ... that was clear 

    icon 3 ... what a fliping joke ... proton / hells won in last hour  :D ... one event we won 1 proton in 96 hour ...next we won 1 hell star in 96 hour 

    or do they now start dropping like candy from heaven ... oh wait candy dont drop from heaven you need to BUY it ! 

    If that counter is sector wide ( 800 rescued ships ) it totally screws sector with few active players .


    Icon 3 - They have removed world wide notifications and added this, which is awesome. I do not believe they will drop hellstar like candy(yet). Hellstar is very powerful hull. They wont let us buy it, if they will, I would probably buy it instead of wasting my money on 85's and 90's for a random change of that bp. 
    Icon 2 - Counter is not sector wide. You (Individually) have to rescue 800 ships by yourself to get the rouge crew.
  • WilburWrightIII
    WilburWrightIII
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 855

    Ok so we have the sector bar again, Is there going to be any relief for sectors with scores of dead bases? If your not willing to take the trash out Kixeye can you at least not count it as an asset when determining the points needed to unlock. Lol not even the cheapest govt official or loan officer accounts for a persons aluminum can collection when determining approval for a loan or benefits. Nethrr should you.

  • labaron26
    labaron26
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Jul 2010 Posts: 1,177
    I like the new Rogue Crew, but as stated by others, 800 rescued ships seems pretty high just to get 1 crew...Not seeing point total yet for completing a Siege Campaign, no one knows how may ships are available to rescue...Most people, like me, go thru about 5 or 6 campaigns to get the top prizes, maybe a couple more....So, under that assumption, in order to get just 1 new Rogue crew, completing a campaign would have to offer at least 125 rescued ships....I don't see that total anywhere near what ships will be offered for rescue in 1 campaign....My guess is about 25-50....therefore be prepared to have to go thru about 16 campaigns to get a crew....(just my wild guess)........and open up your wallets.
  • Gary Hammer II
    Gary Hammer II
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 861
    Looks like opening the sector store is going to be a lot harder this raid. If everyone is doing campaigns to try getting the new Rogue Crew who will be hitting map targets to open the sector store? Kixeye doesn't think anything thru
  • RainbowPride
    RainbowPride
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 644


    What if a lvl 100 decided he doesnt want to coin it out this time and take a break or grind it out by doin recon using SW, should he get his ptns decreased?

    If all a 100 can hit is Recon for free, then yes they should limit it by a lot. There comes a time when the player has to move beyond researched hulls, and tech and join the real game.

    If he helped a player do their recon, they would get about 65K pts, why should he get more than that?
    All of the posts after I made the one above about WoW shows exactly like someone else pointed out above also. A significant percentage of players on THIS game and likely all games EXPECT to have EVERYTHING in the game given to them-from the start and for free because in their minds "they deserve it". Many players think "it's not fair that I have to research things and wait"-because other players(even though they have played longer) have these things and they don't. They are offended that some have spent the "time" and others have spent "coin" to get the things they want. So many people I see posting on comms-"I would NEVER coin or give Kix one cent of my money"-but 5 min later are crying because their fleet got taken out or base smashed. Obviously the game isn't perfect-few are. But-quit being babies about not having the fleets or skill to beat the raids, etc-if you really want to you can-just quit being lazy or cheap.
    it's not the point of being cheap for some players some people just cannot spare money for the game or any game, not every country has a decent pay scale. i can spend money on this game at any time, but i would rather use it for a cosmetic item that has no bearing on performance for my ship that would make it an easier victory.
  • Rustdog
    Rustdog
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 749
    Looks like opening the sector store is going to be a lot harder this raid. If everyone is doing campaigns to try getting the new Rogue Crew who will be hitting map targets to open the sector store? Kixeye doesn't think anything thru
    I would like to agree with ya,But BP/Kix have made it very clear here as of late the coin is what they want most from they'er player's and they like to make us be leave they care.. ROFLMAO  Like to see this game or BP team thinking of the player not the bottom line,Would make a lot of player's happy and a lot less of a mess in forum's..
  • Fractal
    Fractal
    Master Tactician
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 2,425
    CHUBBB said:
    Patchman said:

    Interesting, lots of players will be happy that all the campaign levels are open for everyone. Kind of like this new twist. We'll see how it's implemented.


    Exactly. It sounds interesting and potentialy fun again. Hopefully it turns out that way.
    I think it is a good move but could be badly.  The quote was "ALL campaigns are now available for players of ALL levels. Veteran pirates will receive fewer Event Points for defeating lower level campaigns"

    So they may give points so low that it is not even worth your time to do lower level campaigns.  Hopefully it is a sliding scale like players 60-65 get 85% of the points, players 66-70 get 75%, players 71-80 get 60% of points.

    Any more detail if that will how it will go DOOMROOSTER?
    I don't have a specific modifier, but the concept is right: If you are a higher level player hitting below level, you'll get reduced points, depending on the difference in level. It should be noted that this is not inverse: if you are low level hitting upwards, you will not get more points. 
    We had a raid like this about 3 years ago. Hitting hubs. I cant remember the name of it, but it wasnt all that bad. We could grind it out if we wanted to. I think it was something like a 15% reduction of points if we hit below level. Hopefully this one is similar.
    Playing since Feb 2012.  Originally sector 304
  • John Carpenter
    John Carpenter
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 552
    Two words for the true gamers that will sum up this raid; escort mission =/
  • thisrealniggy
    thisrealniggy
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 3
    katra5 said:
    I like this, however whats the point difference and will you get the event point pay out?
    Will it still be 1-45, 46-59 and 60+ for the "required" levels so to speak and do I get a bonus for doing harder campaign than I'm qualified for?

    no in one of the earlier comments you only get the specified bonus for the campaign if you go higher you do not get extra for going higher
  • Peter Whyte
    Peter Whyte
    Greenhorn
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 19
    where is the prize list?

  • crazyjr123
    crazyjr123
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 396
    Looks like opening the sector store is going to be a lot harder this raid. If everyone is doing campaigns to try getting the new Rogue Crew who will be hitting map targets to open the sector store? Kixeye doesn't think anything thru
    Screw the rogue crew, If i get a couple fine. I'm going after the hull and weapon
  • The_Professor
    The_Professor
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 737
    Looks like opening the sector store is going to be a lot harder this raid. If everyone is doing campaigns to try getting the new Rogue Crew who will be hitting map targets to open the sector store? Kixeye doesn't think anything thru
    Screw the rogue crew, If i get a couple fine. I'm going after the hull and weapon
    Couple?
    I'm not even sure if i can get one. 800 ships for 1 crew . That is a really big number...
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