Dark Tide Tips & Tricks Discussion

  • TraderJack
    TraderJack
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    Interesting, lots of players will be happy that all the campaign levels are open for everyone. Kind of like this new twist. We'll see how it's implemented.


    Oh you mean how it use to be ? : )~
    Back to the Future.

    I'm looking forward to this raid ! there just need to be a good spawn rate is all.
  • Charlie Pugwash
    Charlie Pugwash
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    Just wanted to say, (as long as the reduction in points is reasonable), the campaigns being open to all levels is going to be a big help for some people- thumbs up for that.
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  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
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    garryhj said:
    Strange but I thought last mpnth was supposed to be the LAST Reaver raid.

    I also expected the July raid to be a hull store raid just as it has been in previous years.

    Kixeye better get their crap together and fast because WoWS is now in open beta and it's a hell of a lot more fun than BP.
    What I find funny is that so many people continue to threaten Kixeye with this new game that is still in Beta. Yes-it is FREE for now-but seriously-do you REALLY think it will remain free after Beta? Lol. Instead of wasting everyone's time with threats to quit and go to WoW-just go. Really.
    considering that world of tanks and world of warplanes are 100% free to play and they are all made by wargaming, yes it will remain FREE after beta. yes you can purchase premium time and premium ships BUT unlike battle pirates you dont HAVE to spend money to keep up and be competitive. and i dont see it as "wasting" people's time i see it as players trying to open kixeye's eyes to the loss of interest/fun and hope they pick up on it and start listening to the players instead of the whales.
    Well, using your definition Battle Pirates is 100% free to play, you just have to pay for premium time, and premium ships :)

    You do not have to spend money to keep up in Battle Pirates, eventually you can build everything.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
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    jschlue2 said:
    With all the campaigns open to everyone, I can see the lower levels suffering.  The higher levels helped the lower levels in past raids because the lower level campaigns were easier points.  Now that the higher levels can do whatever campaign they want, they'll be less inclined to help the lower levels.

    Now we will see who truly likes helping and who did it for easier ptn or for ptn at all. MAny player only did it  because it was the only way to get ptns. 
    A level 50 cannot do the Strike campaign, they can do the recon. No need to help anyone out this time around. You want those T5 prizes, get on your **** and hit those recon camps if that is all you can do.

    I will still charge to help people with elite or sieges though, only fair they cover my repairs and my time.


  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
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    edited 11 Jul 2015, 10:53AM
    Just wanted to say, (as long as the reduction in points is reasonable), the campaigns being open to all levels is going to be a big help for some people- thumbs up for that.
    Even if the points are cut in half, it will be a big help for everyone. There is an option to now grind the raid like the old days, where you had to sit for 10 hours a day with your instant repair ships to get 12 mil over a couple days. 

    We could do that before, but people had an allergic reaction to zombie fleets.
  • TraderJack
    TraderJack
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    jschlue2 said:
    With all the campaigns open to everyone, I can see the lower levels suffering.  The higher levels helped the lower levels in past raids because the lower level campaigns were easier points.  Now that the higher levels can do whatever campaign they want, they'll be less inclined to help the lower levels.

    Now we will see who truly likes helping and who did it for easier ptn or for ptn at all. MAny player only did it  because it was the only way to get ptns. 
    A level 50 cannot do the Strike campaign, they can do the recon. No need to help anyone out this time around. You want those T5 prizes, get on your **** and hit those recon camps if that is all you can do.

    I will still charge to help people with elite or sieges though, only fair they cover my repairs and my time.



    TraderJack said:
    CHUBBB said:
    Patchman said:

    Interesting, lots of players will be happy that all the campaign levels are open for everyone. Kind of like this new twist. We'll see how it's implemented.


    Exactly. It sounds interesting and potentialy fun again. Hopefully it turns out that way.
    I think it is a good move but could be badly.  The quote was "ALL campaigns are now available for players of ALL levels. Veteran pirates will receive fewer Event Points for defeating lower level campaigns"

    So they may give points so low that it is not even worth your time to do lower level campaigns.  Hopefully it is a sliding scale like players 60-65 get 85% of the points, players 66-70 get 75%, players 71-80 get 60% of points.

    Any more detail if that will how it will go DOOMROOSTER?
    I don't have a specific modifier, but the concept is right: If you are a higher level player hitting below level, you'll get reduced points, depending on the difference in level. It should be noted that this is not inverse: if you are low level hitting upwards, you will not get more points. 

    LOL the plan is to force everyone to play higher l
  • xCrookx
    xCrookx
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    Joined Jun 2011 Posts: 442
    Greetings Captains!

    Not much has changed

    I fail to see how this "discussion" among players is helping anyone. The tips and tricks is more of a sneak peak into a new raid format that leaves more questions then it answers. 
  • CHUBBB
    CHUBBB
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    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 277

    Interesting, lots of players will be happy that all the campaign levels are open for everyone. Kind of like this new twist. We'll see how it's implemented.


    Oh you mean how it use to be ? : )~
    Back to the Future.

    I'm looking forward to this raid ! there just need to be a good spawn rate is all.
    It would be nice if campaigns counted to the sector bar
  • freparkng
    freparkng
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    edited 11 Jul 2015, 7:33PM
    It's going to be a good Raid for 14,   players are jamming in once again,   we are looking at double the numbers of active players from last raid.   That is my Tip.

    Any players looking to relocate,  let me know,   3 towers filling up. 
  • Neo117
    Neo117
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    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 179
    Maybe a rouge crew that allows support ticket to be answered before the raid is over , lol i would coin for that
    Please do not give them any ideas!
  • freparkng
    freparkng
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    Neo117 said:
    Maybe a rouge crew that allows support ticket to be answered before the raid is over , lol i would coin for that
    Please do not give them any ideas!
    I'm not going there,  I earned bars for that.      I'll take care of support
  • wolf123
    wolf123
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    garryhj said:
    Strange but I thought last mpnth was supposed to be the LAST Reaver raid.

    I also expected the July raid to be a hull store raid just as it has been in previous years.

    Kixeye better get their crap together and fast because WoWS is now in open beta and it's a hell of a lot more fun than BP.
    What I find funny is that so many people continue to threaten Kixeye with this new game that is still in Beta. Yes-it is FREE for now-but seriously-do you REALLY think it will remain free after Beta? Lol. Instead of wasting everyone's time with threats to quit and go to WoW-just go. Really.
    WoT had the premium golden bullets, WoWs will also have something similar (not to mention crew reskilling and many other stuff only available via payment) .... so that place is also not evergreen... yeah maybe graphically it will be more up to XXIst century... and waaay different ... and by the way many people's VGA cards just will not be enough for WoWs... but BP works just fine :)

    And no, not each summer was there a hull raid.. just each second summer... just check back on the wiki.

    Yes there are problems that I also experience but kixeye is waaay among the best ones in the non real 3d mm games, for me it still seems to be fun playing even with the persistent problems at hand.
    WoW has some great deals on their gold prices, that is the only thing that drew me to WoW, but didn't take me from BP.
    ever had  a problem where you log on and someone is hitting your base, and wanted to view the world map while it happens? try this.
    1/select leadersboard.
    2/select player's medals.
    3/select any player there.
    4/select "find base"
    that may or may not take you to world map.
  • John.Tyler
    John.Tyler
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    Rustdog said:
    Rusty_Dog said:
    Rusty_Dog said:
    I like the format of this raid and campaigns But 800 ships for one rogue crew is a bit much thats at least 267 targets Come on kix wise up 
    I should have added why would anyone want to hit over 267 targets when you can hit 10-15 elites and your done or roll for a dom crew with 30% def
    They'er looking for more coin by the way it seam's, could be wrong or I should say I'd like to be wrong but haven't for month's.. The only way for this to be doable for any of us for that many ship's would be less damage to our fleet's,But that's really unlikely to ever happen in this game..

    Let the game be forever in your favor!!
    amen to that just another coiner fiasco like the last dozen raids
  • TedLocke
    TedLocke
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    having the campaigns open to all levels will help the people in 60's and low 70's to get some points.

  • freparkng
    freparkng
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    edited 12 Jul 2015, 4:46AM
    Just for giggles,   recruiting for raid,   got players interested and ready to jump,   2 min later  our sector crushed them by accident.   I guess I'm on the **** list,  looking forward to raid. pm's will be interesting


  • TheLostGuardian
    TheLostGuardian
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    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 2,584
    freparkng said:
    It's going to be a good Raid for 14,   players are jamming in once again,   we are looking at double the numbers of active players from last raid.   That is my Tip.

    Any players looking to relocate,  let me know,   3 towers filling up. 
    even more then last time ****. ill be staying :)
    Battle pirates-lvl: 84
    Sector:231

    War commander-:lvl 39
    sector:165

    Call me lost, for that is what i am.
  • bort
    bort
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    Rustdog said:
    Rusty_Dog said:
    Rusty_Dog said:
    I like the format of this raid and campaigns But 800 ships for one rogue crew is a bit much thats at least 267 targets Come on kix wise up 
    I should have added why would anyone want to hit over 267 targets when you can hit 10-15 elites and your done or roll for a dom crew with 30% def
    They'er looking for more coin by the way it seam's, could be wrong or I should say I'd like to be wrong but haven't for month's.. The only way for this to be doable for any of us for that many ship's would be less damage to our fleet's,But that's really unlikely to ever happen in this game..

    Let the game be forever in your favor!!
    amen to that just another coiner fiasco like the last dozen raids
    last few raids have been pretty easy for the non coiner. What worked in January still worked in June. Anyone can build a fleet in that time.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
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    jschlue2 said:
    With all the campaigns open to everyone, I can see the lower levels suffering.  The higher levels helped the lower levels in past raids because the lower level campaigns were easier points.  Now that the higher levels can do whatever campaign they want, they'll be less inclined to help the lower levels.

    Now we will see who truly likes helping and who did it for easier ptn or for ptn at all. MAny player only did it  because it was the only way to get ptns. 
    A level 50 cannot do the Strike campaign, they can do the recon. No need to help anyone out this time around. You want those T5 prizes, get on your **** and hit those recon camps if that is all you can do.

    I will still charge to help people with elite or sieges though, only fair they cover my repairs and my time.



    TraderJack said:
    CHUBBB said:
    Patchman said:

    Interesting, lots of players will be happy that all the campaign levels are open for everyone. Kind of like this new twist. We'll see how it's implemented.


    Exactly. It sounds interesting and potentialy fun again. Hopefully it turns out that way.
    I think it is a good move but could be badly.  The quote was "ALL campaigns are now available for players of ALL levels. Veteran pirates will receive fewer Event Points for defeating lower level campaigns"

    So they may give points so low that it is not even worth your time to do lower level campaigns.  Hopefully it is a sliding scale like players 60-65 get 85% of the points, players 66-70 get 75%, players 71-80 get 60% of points.

    Any more detail if that will how it will go DOOMROOSTER?
    I don't have a specific modifier, but the concept is right: If you are a higher level player hitting below level, you'll get reduced points, depending on the difference in level. It should be noted that this is not inverse: if you are low level hitting upwards, you will not get more points. 

    LOL the plan is to force everyone to play higher l
    If they do not give the static bonus for completions  (700K for strike) you might have a point. For the last 6 months if you helped someone in their strike you got 500K if they did nothing. So, as far as I am concerned if the 90 that is doing a strike in their own tower gets 500K pts it is fair.

    As they should have the fleets and knowledge after 7 months of the same freaking format to do Siege for free, or $10 for the 18 mil for two new prizes.
  • BlackCat130
    BlackCat130
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    Joined Nov 2013 Posts: 1
    can we just go back to dark water and gun boat plz
    is that asking for 2 much
  • Youngman300
    Youngman300
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    Joined May 2012 Posts: 869
    can we just go back to dark water and gun boat plz
    is that asking for 2 much
    You can choose what you build and masking tape is relatively inexpensive. 

    But I think reverting to BP stone age would result in the death of the game. While a retro version might bring in a few players if they were to do such a thing it should be a separate entity from this game. 
    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.

  • Youngman300
    Youngman300
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    If they do not give the static bonus for completions  (700K for strike) you might have a point. For the last 6 months if you helped someone in their strike you got 500K if they did nothing. So, as far as I am concerned if the 90 that is doing a strike in their own tower gets 500K pts it is fair.

    As they should have the fleets and knowledge after 7 months of the same freaking format to do Siege for free, or $10 for the 18 mil for two new prizes.

    I disagree.  500k total is not high enough. Why open up the level, instead of just telling them do the co-op? Should it be a 700k completion bonus on top of the 500k  damage points? No. not for a level 65 + who is just incapable of using strategy.  

    Perhaps 350k completion, and 300k damage... but straight cutting it down to what they would get helping someone, defeats the purpose of opening up the levels. 
    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.

  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
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    edited 12 Jul 2015, 7:14PM
    If they do not give the static bonus for completions  (700K for strike) you might have a point. For the last 6 months if you helped someone in their strike you got 500K if they did nothing. So, as far as I am concerned if the 90 that is doing a strike in their own tower gets 500K pts it is fair.

    As they should have the fleets and knowledge after 7 months of the same freaking format to do Siege for free, or $10 for the 18 mil for two new prizes.

    I disagree.  500k total is not high enough. Why open up the level, instead of just telling them do the co-op? Should it be a 700k completion bonus on top of the 500k  damage points? No. not for a level 65 + who is just incapable of using strategy.  

    Perhaps 350k completion, and 300k damage... but straight cutting it down to what they would get helping someone, defeats the purpose of opening up the levels. 
    no it doesn't, if they get 700K for the bonus and another 200K or whatever for doing all 5, they are up 400K from just doing it for someone.

    Not to mention they do not need to get someone lowly striker to open for them the whole raid.

    the low levels have had it really great the last 6 months. They should be in a spot to do their own strikes, and those that cannot, can team up with others, or do recon now. 

    I was not happy with the last FAT, but at least they got this right. NO more begging from people to help them do the raid. It is a win-win-win.
  • Ironman359
    Ironman359
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    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 552
    Why don't we just let Kixeye play the entire Raid for us instead of just partially playing it for us.  

    Just send us a bill for coins used and tell us how we done. :P
    H Tides
  • Gazman
    Gazman
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    It would be great to see some of the stackable upgrades making a re-appearance like combat speed, evade.....
  • vetehinen
    vetehinen
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    edited 12 Jul 2015, 9:02PM
    Is that counter personal or sector wide ? 800 ships sounds a bit high if one target has 3 and whole set 15 thats like over 50 sets .

    And prize for that is one RANDOM CREW ?



    Whats these other icons ? Nemesis and what ?

    When we take history in count then the scaling of base limits are lvl over 80+ do not get any points ... thats about what happened every time there been a limit ... XMAS 2012 i was ONE lvl too high so i got 25 % less points from only target that had damage / point so player could grind them. Think i was lvl 50 then and lvl 60 players had - 50 % and lvl 70 had - 100 % ... thats the kix way 

    So i wait now that i even get less points and bonuses from siege than last time .
  • GO Trump
    GO Trump
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    whats with the proto type nemesis pic?
  • BloodRavenFavian
    BloodRavenFavian
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    vetehinen said:
    Is that counter personal or sector wide ? 800 ships sounds a bit high if one target has 3 and whole set 15 thats like over 50 sets .

    And prize for that is one RANDOM CREW ?

    Whats these other icons ? Nemesis and what ?

    When we take history in count then the scaling of base limits are lvl over 80+ do not get any points ... thats about what happened every time there been a limit ... XMAS 2012 i was ONE lvl too high so i got 25 % less points from only target that had damage / point so player could grind them. Think i was lvl 50 then and lvl 60 players had - 50 % and lvl 70 had - 100 % ... thats the kix way 

    So i wait now that i even get less points and bonuses from siege than last time .
    The prize isnt random. Its the "Elite Mercenaries" crew shown on the tips and tricks (that's the name of the crew). The icons will be explained more hopefully when the briefing comes out. 
    We are always watching. Quiet ≠ safe.

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  • The_Professor
    The_Professor
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 737
    vetehinen said:
    Is that counter personal or sector wide ? 800 ships sounds a bit high if one target has 3 and whole set 15 thats like over 50 sets .

    And prize for that is one RANDOM CREW ?

    Whats these other icons ? Nemesis and what ?

    When we take history in count then the scaling of base limits are lvl over 80+ do not get any points ... thats about what happened every time there been a limit ... XMAS 2012 i was ONE lvl too high so i got 25 % less points from only target that had damage / point so player could grind them. Think i was lvl 50 then and lvl 60 players had - 50 % and lvl 70 had - 100 % ... thats the kix way 

    So i wait now that i even get less points and bonuses from siege than last time .
    The prize isnt random. Its the "Elite Mercenaries" crew shown on the tips and tricks (that's the name of the crew). The icons will be explained more hopefully when the briefing comes out. 
    Icon 1 is sector stat boosts
    Icon 2 is mentioned already
    Icon 3 shows number of proto/hellstar won in last hour.
  • Ralh3
    Ralh3
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    Th ewhole 800 for one crew is just another example of how dumb the development team has gotten lately...Think about it a SHORT time crew that you get from doing over 250 encounters.... in comparison how many grease monkeys do you think you could pull from 250 dredges worth of encounters....
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