like all the rest have said the no insurance is really a bad idea Having to coin repair just makes this a second raid
you will have to make the prize some super op hull to get people to play this
and then people will quit the game because they cant compete
the Uranium was a great way to earn coins from players hitting dredges to play in the Arena So now they wont need Uranium and stop hitting dredges as well as not play in the Arena And kixeye will lose out on some nice coins because of greed
Oh, so this will be a coiners FAT then.... you have the coin to keep repairing your toy box and you can keep fighting.... This makes me sad. I have really been enjoying the FATs. I will not enjoy this one so much.
It's also the first of its kind, so how this FAT performs will give us a sense of what changes need to be made for future iterations.
Mr DOOMROOSTER sir, have you and/or the game team actually sat down and run the numbers to see how much coin this iteration of the FAT is demanding players throw at this event?
Including half repair time, the cost to repair a competitive fleet plus a pinch is going to be somewhere in the order of 30 coins per battle. A 75% win rate means to win 300 battles a player is going to need to take part in 400 battles. 400 x 30 = 12,000
So what we have here people is Mr DOOMROOSTER trying to cover up the fact that KIXEYE are saying, you want to be competitive this FAT, you need to be prepared to drop 12k coins on the game or $1000. Maybe more.
Mr DOOMROOSTER, would you like to explain why you are trying to gloss over this fact?
i could rank that fleet, and other ships whilst actually enjoying doing it.
although previously i'd win 19/20 and make a profit out of uranium, i think that removing the uranium reward actually evened out the player base a bit. other players would have been running at a huge deficit, and now everyone was running at that deficit
kix could make their coins from people building fleets for arena
kix could make their coins from people hitting dredges
the arena would naturally increase in toughness as new ships are released
as a non coiner i was able to compete because I had used some shipyard time to build an arena fleet
using ships i'd put in the effort to win, and prioritised to build rewarded good strategy
if you wanted top spot, you had to grind hard - coiner or not. But at the same time, even top 65 gave a decent prize, which didnt actually take that much effort
yeah there were some issues in the lower bracket in particular .. maybe removing the 250 wins prize would help that.
sandbox i still don't think is a good idea, in a game where you are always basically trying to get the best stuff, the most efficient way possible. rewarding the mediocre is not really the way the game has run ... ever.
no insurance repairs in an event where you cannot avoid taking tons of damage has the potential to rule out non-coiners. This would actually be the first time that has happened in the 4 years i've played.
Understand peeps that is Kixeye's objective all along they are purposely trying to run the game into the ground because they want to move on to other projects they have going, think about it no company would run their own product into the ground so blatantly unless they wanted to, just think back to the start of 2015 to the present how many times have they pulled this kind of ****, they want you to STOP playing, mark my words peeps I would not be surprised if this game packed up by the end of the year!
Kix can stick this FAT there where the sun don't shine. Ridiculous to think players, except for the full blown 100% idiots, will pay (half repair) costs.
Really a pity to see Kix is destroying its own format of FAT.
But in fact I am also happy as it shows everyone with at least a little bit of common sense that the Battle Pirates game has become at the end of its life cycle and is dying fast now.
For myself this conclusion means even less coining as I did the last few months.
come on guys this is going to be great top prize will be new limited protohellstar flagship that wieghs more than your dock can hold and starts with a 50 day build and a 10 day repair
all they have to do to stop 99% of the complaining in put uranium insurance back in its simple, expecting people to spend ANY amount of coin to repair a fleet they dont own is absolutely ludicrous ask the developers to be honest with themselves and see how many of them would be willing to shell out 100 bucks repairing boats theyll never be able to use for anything again
all they have to do to stop 99% of the complaining in put uranium insurance back in its simple, expecting people to spend ANY amount of coin to repair a fleet they dont own is absolutely ludicrous ask the developers to be honest with themselves and see how many of them would be willing to shell out 100 bucks repairing boats theyll never be able to use for anything again
I guess they figure the new hull is well worth it? Supposedly a trekky looking carrier hull...it'd have to be insanely OP to be worth shelling out that much in repairs....I don't see any but the biggest of whales doing it.
look at this, DoomRooster being a DoomChicken and not commenting on this post, he had no problem at the start though...i guess this was HIS idea and not some dumb-**** Dev team.
^^what some people would be saying right now.
ever had a problem where you log on and someone is hitting your base, and wanted to view the world map while it happens? try this.
don't get me wrong, he has his good moments, but at this rate he's gonna remind me of CmRobot, and not in a good way either, as Robot sucked ****...A LOT
ever had a problem where you log on and someone is hitting your base, and wanted to view the world map while it happens? try this.
Oh, so this will be a coiners FAT then.... you have the coin to keep repairing your toy box and you can keep fighting.... This makes me sad. I have really been enjoying the FATs. I will not enjoy this one so much.
It's also the first of its kind, so how this FAT performs will give us a sense of what changes need to be made for future iterations.
Mr DOOMROOSTER sir, have you and/or the game team actually sat down and run the numbers to see how much coin this iteration of the FAT is demanding players throw at this event?
Including half repair time, the cost to repair a competitive fleet plus a pinch is going to be somewhere in the order of 30 coins per battle. A 75% win rate means to win 300 battles a player is going to need to take part in 400 battles. 400 x 30 = 12,000
So what we have here people is Mr DOOMROOSTER trying to cover up the fact that KIXEYE are saying, you want to be competitive this FAT, you need to be prepared to drop 12k coins on the game or $1000. Maybe more.
Mr DOOMROOSTER, would you like to explain why you are trying to gloss over this fact?
I'd start off by using a fleet that didn't take 30 coins to win 3/4 of the time.
Kix can stick this FAT there where the sun don't shine. Ridiculous to think players, except for the full blown 100% idiots, will pay (half repair) costs.
Really a pity to see Kix is destroying its own format of FAT.
But in fact I am also happy as it shows everyone with at least a little bit of common sense that the Battle Pirates game has become at the end of its life cycle and is dying fast now.
For myself this conclusion means even less coining as I did the last few months.
Greetz B-King (PNLS)
Are those the same full blown idiots spending hundreds on full repairs winning some of those precious medals?
I was going to jump in and add my negative thoughts re the FAT. But I thought about it and any thoughts I have are based on very little info, although also based on the cynicism that I think we all have where kix is concerned.
All I will say tho, is that when I am waiting for stuff to repair I play WoT, haven't been playing long and frankly I am crap at it, however at the moment they have a event thing on that's not dissimilar in concept to the coming FAT. The basics of it are, WoT supplies the players 3 different makes of tank (everyone gets the same) we then go into a arena with the selected tank of our choice and play in a team against another team. The team with the most points wins and each individual player gets the equivalent of XP . The tanks repair instantly, the cost is taken from the points, xp that you have won. The surplus xp goes in your bank and can be used to improve the normal tanks that you use outside of the event. The only extra cost for the event tanks, is if you want to add more powerful shells to kill quicker.
The benefit to WoT is that I get to use a tank that I can only dream of at the moment, however if I wanted I could coin one for day to day use and I am sure that at lot of players do.
i was gonna try to get in this arena match but now **** it i cant afford to spend the money to repair my dock this was my way of blowing off steam after work but looks like i will have to find another game to do it maybe i will go back to playin wot
reasons for the FAT change. #1 kixeye dont like us ranking fleets for free. #2 with the toybox they will offer the options to unlock other hulls and tech via us spending uranium to do so. #3 kixeye are full of moronic greedy [email protected]#S
it would be a great FAT if theyd put insurance back in but someone getting pulled around the office in a little red wagon is calling the shots apparently
DEAR DOOM, if this FAT format kicks in . prepare to lose all your players in arena . the way arena is now works just fine . but if you decide to start screwing up some thing that works like every thing else you touch i am certain all except that 4 or 5 millionaires you have that do play this game will leave . to do such stupid **** like this will help in end kixeye and well lets face it your carreer. you need to open eyes and read what your customers are saying . grow a heart and concieve what we are telling you . every one knows for a fact the arena ships are better thatn the stupid monthly prizes . but this 50 coins a fight is uncalled for . i will be damned if i pay 30 coins for a **** pinch . much less coin repairs on a ship i can not take out of my base and smash all others who stand in my way . but hey i know you and kixeye do not give a **** about me or any one who plays this game . greed and stupidity has infested kixeye . thats why world of warships has such high reviews . thanks for ruining the last best part of the game BYE
AS WE SIT WITH BAITED BREATH IF THIS FAT GOES AHEAD AS PLANNED ................................................. AS WE VE BEEN TOLD AS ABOVE read it again think long think hard
Ok I saw another thread asking questions about it but can I get a base idea of what it is going to be like? It might already be out there I just can't find many details so i would be happy if someone could answer me.
You build your fleet from a generic set of hulls , wepons and specials that kixeye will give us .So wher this would have been great for those of us like me who havn t all the best flagships etc . just costing us uranium for insurance and time .. Now it is we have to pay to fix the fleet we build from the TOYBOX .. so no FAT for me
Ok I saw another thread asking questions about it but can I get a base idea of what it is going to be like? It might already be out there I just can't find many details so i would be happy if someone could answer me.
its going to be expensive
lol,,no it isnt,,gonna be very easy to sit this **** out,,cheers
"If it ain't broke, Kixeye it". It just seems like you guys (kixeye) just try to think of the most farked up thing to do in this game. If an idea is good, you pee,****, vomit and throw chopped up little devil clowns in it then mix it up and despite how messed up it is, with everyone telling you it is messed up, you keep doing it.
No one at, Kixeye has any right to make fun of the "tinfoil" hat brigade. You give them so much ammunition that the only other option is just plain old simple 'terminal stupidity'. Just another obvious coin grab but, I see in the new future that something "super" will be put in the FAT as an incentive. Good luck. It was obvious the last one was a failure as the brackets were so empty you could wait half an hour trying to get into a fight. So you take everything that was bad about the last fiasco and.....you enhance the crappiest parts of it, charge money for it then roll it out.... Wow. Just...wow.
"Best of luck, Captains! And may the odds be ever in your favour..."
Raids Boycotted: Hellstrike, Lightning Carrier, Enforcer, Neptune- and at this rate, the entire upcoming Reaver raid series.
Having to coin repair just makes this a second raid
you will have to make the prize some super op hull to get people to play this
and then people will quit the game because they cant compete
the Uranium was a great way to earn coins from players hitting dredges
to play in the Arena
So now they wont need Uranium and stop hitting dredges as well as not play in the Arena
And kixeye will lose out on some nice coins because of greed
Including half repair time, the cost to repair a competitive fleet plus a pinch is going to be somewhere in the order of 30 coins per battle.
A 75% win rate means to win 300 battles a player is going to need to take part in 400 battles.
400 x 30 = 12,000
So what we have here people is Mr DOOMROOSTER trying to cover up the fact that KIXEYE are saying, you want to be competitive this FAT, you need to be prepared to drop 12k coins on the game or $1000. Maybe more.
Mr DOOMROOSTER, would you like to explain why you are trying to gloss over this fact?
- i could use the fleet i'd built for fvf.
- i could rank that fleet, and other ships whilst actually enjoying doing it.
- although previously i'd win 19/20 and make a profit out of uranium, i think that removing the uranium reward actually evened out the player base a bit. other players would have been running at a huge deficit, and now everyone was running at that deficit
- kix could make their coins from people building fleets for arena
- kix could make their coins from people hitting dredges
- the arena would naturally increase in toughness as new ships are released
- as a non coiner i was able to compete because I had used some shipyard time to build an arena fleet
- using ships i'd put in the effort to win, and prioritised to build rewarded good strategy
- if you wanted top spot, you had to grind hard - coiner or not. But at the same time, even top 65 gave a decent prize, which didnt actually take that much effort
yeah there were some issues in the lower bracket in particular .. maybe removing the 250 wins prize would help that.sandbox i still don't think is a good idea, in a game where you are always basically trying to get the best stuff, the most efficient way possible. rewarding the mediocre is not really the way the game has run ... ever.
no insurance repairs in an event where you cannot avoid taking tons of damage has the potential to rule out non-coiners. This would actually be the first time that has happened in the 4 years i've played.
Kixeye response: Increase raids to 2 each month.
Hope the coiners and the hackers enjoy it.
Ridiculous to think players, except for the full blown 100% idiots, will pay (half repair) costs.
Really a pity to see Kix is destroying its own format of FAT.
But in fact I am also happy as it shows everyone with at least a little bit of common sense that the Battle Pirates game has become at the end of its life cycle and is dying fast now.
For myself this conclusion means even less coining as I did the last few months.
Greetz B-King (PNLS)
^^what some people would be saying right now.
All I will say tho, is that when I am waiting for stuff to repair I play WoT, haven't been playing long and frankly I am crap at it, however at the moment they have a event thing on that's not dissimilar in concept to the coming FAT.
The basics of it are, WoT supplies the players 3 different makes of tank (everyone gets the same) we then go into a arena with the selected tank of our choice and play in a team against another team. The team with the most points wins and each individual player gets the equivalent of XP .
The tanks repair instantly, the cost is taken from the points, xp that you have won. The surplus xp goes in your bank and can be used to improve the normal tanks that you use outside of the event.
The only extra cost for the event tanks, is if you want to add more powerful shells to kill quicker.
The benefit to WoT is that I get to use a tank that I can only dream of at the moment, however if I wanted I could coin one for day to day use and I am sure that at lot of players do.
Future iterations... Blah blah blah
Is Kixeye (Battle Pirates) facing Bankruptcy?
I see no other alternative to explain the desperation spewing out of Kixeye's every decision to milk it's players for more and more money.
I would like an official response so I know whether or not to put any money into a dying company.
Thanks
if this FAT format kicks in . prepare to lose all your players in arena . the way arena is now works just fine . but if you decide to start screwing up some thing that works like every thing else you touch i am certain all except that 4 or 5 millionaires you have that do play this game will leave . to do such stupid **** like this will help in end kixeye and well lets face it your carreer. you need to open eyes and read what your customers are saying . grow a heart and concieve what we are telling you . every one knows for a fact the arena ships are better thatn the stupid monthly prizes . but this 50 coins a fight is uncalled for . i will be damned if i pay 30 coins for a **** pinch . much less coin repairs on a ship i can not take out of my base and smash all others who stand in my way . but hey i know you and kixeye do not give a **** about me or any one who plays this game . greed and stupidity has infested kixeye . thats why world of warships has such high reviews . thanks for ruining the last best part of the game BYE
No Insurance...
Okay, one acronym:
ROFLMFAO.
Not terribly constructive, I know... so a perfect match for what Kixeye is doing to the FAT... and the rest of the game.
Face facts, I guess: No one at kixeye who is listened to has enough intelligence to understand basic economics and psychology...
EDIT: Also, this. So much this:
"Best of luck, Captains! And may the odds be ever in your favour..."
Raids Boycotted: Hellstrike, Lightning Carrier, Enforcer, Neptune- and at this rate, the entire upcoming Reaver raid series.
First played: Shortly After Revenge Raid 2