7/2 FAT Official Discussion

  • Youngman300
    Youngman300
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 869
    I like the toy box. 

    Fix - 
    1. FAT repairs. They have been messed up the entire raid. 
    2. U insurance - If you are not going to allow U insurance, I'll play for free and use my U elsewhere. But I will not spend a single coin if its pay to win. 

    Idea - 
    Retro Fat - Hammer Heads and predators!


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  • Rustdog
    Rustdog
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 749
    I know someone brought this up but would like to know if he's right about the fact that this FAT is still just for your sector or is it not? If it's just for ya sector to get in the bracket then this need's to be fix ASP. If not then this is the last FAT that I for one will be doing!!
  • beaker03
    beaker03
    Potential Threat
    Joined Feb 2015 Posts: 35

    @CM Skeedorr said:
    We are aware that FAT launched with several issues. Shortly after the initial release we resolved several big issues. Monitoring this over the weekend I can see that there are still several issues that still need to be worked out. For those of you that have submitted customer support tickets please be patient. We are continuing to resolve them as fast as possible.

    Over 3 days with no response isn't really acceptable for a tournament that runs about 4 days. I think it was a poor decision to launch the FAT over a holiday when you knew staffing would be limited. Then again, lately anything less than 5 days has been great...where historically tickets typically had an initial response within 48 hours.

    Even more frustrating is seeing people banned then unbanned in less than 2 days. Cheaters are your priority now?

  • Typhoons
    Typhoons
    Master Tactician
    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 2,404

    Congrats to those of you doing the best in the fat that you ever have,but keep in mind participation is way down from previois fats.This fat at best,is still extremely flawed.

    DoomRooster said
    This Warn You 
  • lallas
    lallas
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Dec 2010 Posts: 160
    I say I will not play one single fight this FAT.. that was until last day. why? I saw here some people saying how cool is, how the strategy is changing so fast, bla, bla bla... so, I say, maybe i`m wrong, and will not be a fight in first hours of the fat and last hours. so, I fit a crew, and when the crew has expired, I was rank 5... from 172 with zero fights. 
    95% of the fleets I meet, was monarch.. sometime with a gore or a frost flagship. ofcourse, all those players try to run in corners :)) after some time, I guess after I kill them all (lol), I had no fights for something like 15 min. I was close to say I beat the game when I saw no more monarch waves are coming to play :)
    so, where is the f fun you speak about guys? where is the strategy change that you speak about? because is more fun to kill salvages than your f monarch fleets.
    another thing I saw here: people are happy because they can see how their fleets will be.. did you hear that kixeye? FAT has become a test server for all the noobs around the world.
    I was right, in first hours, the big coiners will spend some, the followers will stop play , at the middle of fat, nobody move anything in my bracket, and now, at the end, some people are still here playing. I don`t think you can do worst kixeye :) if all the brackets are looking like mine, I almost feel sorry for you.
  • Burnside
    Burnside
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,152
    What's going on with the fleet repair times in the FAT? I had a fleet with 7 mins left, so I went and did a couple of things then came back and found that the repair time was now over 8 minutes. So I wait for it to count down below 5 mins and cancel so that I can auto-repair, but it jumps back up to 5 minutes and wants 1 coin. I try again, take it down to 4 minutes, cancel and hey presto it's back up to 5 minutes again.

    WTF? Sort it out Kixeye, this really shouldn't be this difficult.
  • Rustdog
    Rustdog
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 749
    Burnside said:
    What's going on with the fleet repair times in the FAT? I had a fleet with 7 mins left, so I went and did a couple of things then came back and found that the repair time was now over 8 minutes. So I wait for it to count down below 5 mins and cancel so that I can auto-repair, but it jumps back up to 5 minutes and wants 1 coin. I try again, take it down to 4 minutes, cancel and hey presto it's back up to 5 minutes again.

    WTF? Sort it out Kixeye, this really shouldn't be this difficult.
    I'm sorry to say it but they'ed made it LOUD and clear with this FAT that all they'er looking for is the coiner's to do this. Well they got what they were looking for and I feel sorry for the Pirate's that have spent so much on this FAT, hope it was worth it to them for just pixel's.. LOL

    Let the Game be Forever in your Favor..
  • The_Professor
    The_Professor
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 737
    Burnside said:
    What's going on with the fleet repair times in the FAT? I had a fleet with 7 mins left, so I went and did a couple of things then came back and found that the repair time was now over 8 minutes. So I wait for it to count down below 5 mins and cancel so that I can auto-repair, but it jumps back up to 5 minutes and wants 1 coin. I try again, take it down to 4 minutes, cancel and hey presto it's back up to 5 minutes again.

    WTF? Sort it out Kixeye, this really shouldn't be this difficult.
    Samething happened to me. cancel repair, you should see correct repair time.
  • Burnside
    Burnside
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,152
    Rustdog said:
    Burnside said:
    What's going on with the fleet repair times in the FAT? I had a fleet with 7 mins left, so I went and did a couple of things then came back and found that the repair time was now over 8 minutes. So I wait for it to count down below 5 mins and cancel so that I can auto-repair, but it jumps back up to 5 minutes and wants 1 coin. I try again, take it down to 4 minutes, cancel and hey presto it's back up to 5 minutes again.

    WTF? Sort it out Kixeye, this really shouldn't be this difficult.
    I'm sorry to say it but they'ed made it LOUD and clear with this FAT that all they'er looking for is the coiner's to do this. Well they got what they were looking for and I feel sorry for the Pirate's that have spent so much on this FAT, hope it was worth it to them for just pixel's.. LOL

    Let the Game be Forever in your Favor..
    Not spent a single coin on this, spent U in 'buying' additional fleets but that's it and only did that because I had plenty of U. Although that still seems a waste as you can only repair 1 fleet at a time so all it gave me was 4 extra battles.
  • Duke Nukem
    Duke Nukem
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 42
    Truthfully, I believe someone is around at Kixeye...........rockets are no longer working in the FAT.  I don't think that one of the basic mechanics of the game that has been working since the beginning should all of a sudden quit working on its own.  Disclaimer....I am not one of the ones that spam/coin rockets.  I use them when they are available.  I just wanted to bring this up..............changes are being made by someone.  I thought it may have been a hack at first.  One opponent.....OK, my rocket is not available.....it doesn't even show on the screen in battle.  No big deal, refresh and come back.  Second opponent......same thing.  Hmmmm, third opponent...same thing.  Strange to say the least. 
  • johnny.lind.5
    johnny.lind.5
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 148
    think this is the most boring arena i ever done , and as long as it stay this way . i will never do it again . all you see in there is monarks , so i run around draining and wait for it to time out . how exiting is that . scrap this bull please .
  • Walktheplankk
    Walktheplankk
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 309
    lol I just like draining them drones, I just had a battle now and the guy clicked self destruct cause he didn't like me draining the drones. lol 
  • aaron.a.m.kennedy
    aaron.a.m.kennedy
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Apr 2013 Posts: 237
    Worst Arena ever.  Drones and rocket warriors.  One pinch and you're in 13 hours of repair of 26 coins.  sukadik Kix.. such BS.
  • Burnside
    Burnside
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,152
    Truthfully, I believe someone is around at Kixeye...........rockets are no longer working in the FAT.  I don't think that one of the basic mechanics of the game that has been working since the beginning should all of a sudden quit working on its own.  Disclaimer....I am not one of the ones that spam/coin rockets.  I use them when they are available.  I just wanted to bring this up..............changes are being made by someone.  I thought it may have been a hack at first.  One opponent.....OK, my rocket is not available.....it doesn't even show on the screen in battle.  No big deal, refresh and come back.  Second opponent......same thing.  Hmmmm, third opponent...same thing.  Strange to say the least. 
    I've had plenty of pinches used against me, in fact probably every other battle so seems to be working fine for some
  • Sea_Shepherd-BG113
    Sea_Shepherd-BG113
    Potential Threat
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 33
    If i can make a suggestion use this format to carry over in the mercenary fleets that have the old ffs and hhs. will give some new life in them and would be a fitting place to play test new hulls for raid prizes..
    Stop the greed and end the whaling. 
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    edited 6 Jul 2015, 5:23PM
    If i can make a suggestion use this format to carry over in the mercenary fleets that have the old ffs and hhs. will give some new life in them and would be a fitting place to play test new hulls for raid prizes..
    Holy bad idea!

    You want to take a fleet you get for free and allow the player to build a top end fleet for free? Every 12 hours at that? With no repair needed?

    Yeah, that would be an AWESOME idea!


  • nrubnus
    nrubnus
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 787
    edited 6 Jul 2015, 5:32PM
    When is the FAT over? Nevermind :)
    This game is rapidly dying. 
  • viraljoker
    viraljoker
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,686

    Well. Here's my review for what it's worth

    1. Having to coin repairs = stupidest move ever. Atleast with the last fat uranium repair insurance we could have played more.
    2. Toybox element was nice overall but giving the options I think it would have been best to have both your own built fleets and toybox. Atleast give the players a choice of what they wanna use or test
    3. I don't see what yall needed the extra week to polish because there was TONS of issues at startup. Ie crews not working. Repairs not working. Unable to start or stop repairs. Drone count and the list could go on

    The fart gets a 4/5 for suck factor. Only thing that saved it some was toybox partially that didn't have a better compliment of gear.

  • gaspar1
    gaspar1
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 80
    Oh, so this will be a coiners FAT then.... you have the coin to keep repairing your toy box and you can keep fighting.... This makes me sad. I have really been enjoying the FATs. I will not enjoy this one so much.

    It's also the first of its kind, so how this FAT performs will give us a sense of what changes need to be made for future iterations. 


    Basically stop hooking people and then ratcheting up the coin cost. I spent less than 5% of what I spent on the previous FAT's. so good luck Kixeye. I would love this format if you had the U insurance.
  • Infid3lX
    Infid3lX
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 436
    gaspar1 said:
    Oh, so this will be a coiners FAT then.... you have the coin to keep repairing your toy box and you can keep fighting.... This makes me sad. I have really been enjoying the FATs. I will not enjoy this one so much.

    It's also the first of its kind, so how this FAT performs will give us a sense of what changes need to be made for future iterations. 


    Basically stop hooking people and then ratcheting up the coin cost. I spent less than 5% of what I spent on the previous FAT's. so good luck Kixeye. I would love this format if you had the U insurance.
    everything is always the first of its kind , thats just a bad excuse to wave away problems and the fact lots of people dont like it . Trouble is , things always stay the same from the first release , buggy and glitchy for ever
  • Ironman359
    Ironman359
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 552
    When was the combustion system even offered?
    H Tides
  • caederus
    caederus
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 760
    When was the combustion system even offered?
    I think it was first offered in late 2013, then a few times during the first Reaver raids. I also think I've seen in in the FM occasionally. 
    My advice to new players: "Delete the game from Facebook, change your email on Kixeye to [email protected] and scramble your password. then just turn around and forget this place even exists. You will be better off."

  • Chief_Barney
    Chief_Barney
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 441
    Dear Kix,
     It is shameful that 1/2 repairs are not activate as advertised, and I find it unacceptable the your team fails to respond to support requests during the weekend when play is in full swing.



  • lam56
    lam56
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 229
    Kudos Kix - thought this was a fun format to try out ships and fleets I don't have - gave me ideas for the future. What you might want to rethink - if you do not have a shot at 65 and above there is no reason to coin any repair - you might have got a few more coins out of me, but 1 hour ship repair token cost 2 coins not much of a prize if the repair costs more.
  • Stormcrow43
    Stormcrow43
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 69
    The best FAT I have been in, I'm in top ten when before I could easily be out matched by others with more stuff. The first FAT I have gotten even a chance at a hull. It had been getting more uneven as previous higher winners were bring hulls and weapons won in other FATs back into play. I will be telling all my mates about this and maybe we will be the only ones in it. :)
  • Ironclad
    Ironclad
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 560
    the points for taking out drones needs to be looked at 2 seems very wrong as I have drained many this weekend
    So coining is cheating is it??  REMEMBER I coin so YOU can play for free noob!!!!

    EVERY TIME I SEE A PLAYER COMPLAINING IN THE FORUM ABOUT BEING 20 LEVELS LOWER AND BEING ATTACKED I DESTROY 20 LEVEL 50 BASES

  • TheLostGuardian
    TheLostGuardian
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 2,584
    Ironclad said:
    the points for taking out drones needs to be looked at 2 seems very wrong as I have drained many this weekend
    .1 points per drone killed sunds good? would need 1000 per 100 points hmm maybe .25 or .5? prb .25 or even .33 tired.
    Battle pirates-lvl: 84
    Sector:231

    War commander-:lvl 39
    sector:165

    Call me lost, for that is what i am.
  • IronManda
    IronManda
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 153
    I went top 10 with hulls I don't own and never even bothered trying to get.  I've never done the qualifying matches or even bothered building a fleet for the tourney.  So although I'm happy with a top 10 finish with ship build tokens and 3 prints awarded, I didn't spend a single coin.  Seems a bit unfair to those who cared enough to build a tourney fleet that they can't use now and have the advantage they worked for taken away by someone who really doesn't deserve these prizes.  Are we going to start doing raids and Forsaken Missions this way too?  What's the point of prizes if we can just rent-a-boat?
  • bort
    bort
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 8,257
    Finished top 10. Just. Two more coiners and i'd have been out. I had literally zero chance for top spot, as coiners simply buy their wins.

    At least in the old format I had a chance of top spot.

    Using toy ships is extremely unsatisfying. I want my vxp. I want to use ships i've earned.

     If there were actually repair insurance though, it would have been far worse - i'd have had to spend a ton of seat time to get the same result and be even more bored out of my mind.
  • Lucky Luke
    Lucky Luke
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 8,422
    edited 6 Jul 2015, 10:27PM
    As most of you would be aware i can be very critical of kixeye. Not this time. I LOVED IT.

    Was fantastic idea that gave non/ small coiners a very real chance of having fun and winning a new hull and without massive chair time. Was awsome playing with the top hulls that i dont have- and sinkin some whales who do..lol. It even had its own dock..nice!

    I really loved having to change and build fleets as players adapted to what was winning. That was fun and made players think outside the "box".

    Repair insurance would of been nice (with 5 fleets available prob not needed) and a countdown so we knew when the free repair was available but neither here or there in the scheme of things.

    Well done!
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