7/2 FAT Official Discussion

  • The -Master -Blaster
    The -Master -Blaster
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 337
    edited 5 Jul 2015, 11:18PM
    bort said:
    I see lots of people wanting repair insurance back. The problem with that is it will then exclude lower levels that are not loaded with uranium. It would be better to have all repairs free but you have a limited number of battles.
    limited battle still comes down to luck of the draw. if you come up against 20 tough opponents you wont score anywhere near as well as 20 crap opponents.
    Interesting Idea Carl but i agree with Bort. You tend to get a run of certain fleets and often a run of players that should be outside your ranking group. In regard to repair insurance . A player can stock up on U before a FAT if they choose to play in it. It cartn be stolen like res could be when they were hard to come by and took frkin ages to get.

    Im really enjoying playing with fleets i cartn afford to win in normal game play and wouldnt have time to build anyway.
    Me too its fun to use fleets thats are above my pay grade ..trouble is now i realize just how bad my real fleets are  :)
  • Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 279
    bkbajb said:
    so i go in my opponent has nhs i die in 30 sec. no thanks
    I would have PNH either way. Unless they take them out of the box, which I am not opposed to. Maybe ditch the NHs and the even worse Monarch drone corner runners.
  • Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Kevin_K_dangerHobo
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 279
    edited 5 Jul 2015, 11:32PM
    I see lots of people wanting repair insurance back. The problem with that is it will then exclude lower levels that are not loaded with uranium. It would be better to have all repairs free but you have a limited number of battles. 


    I think that is not a bad idea if the tournament was about who is the best. But the tournament has never been about who is the best.
  • Dark Horse-oldsg
    Dark Horse-oldsg
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 365
    I just had a guy with a Phantom fleet who spent the entire match hiding on the edges of the map, then sank one of my drones at the end to win.  I don't who to be more impressed by; Kixeye for designing this thing, or the player who, given everything for free, will still look for exploits.
    A tip ~ (I've lost this way once silly me thought I'd catch him guessed wrong) ~ at the battle load screen hit the down arrow your drones wont launch ~ that being said he'll likely win even if he does no damage as the lighter fleet wins draws as I  understand the rules..
  • OutThereFlapping
    OutThereFlapping
    Potential Threat
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 27
    format is great, wish the grease monkey repair clock would run equal to the regular clock.
  • Grumpybiatch
    Grumpybiatch
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 43
    Not a bad style in general. Like others have stated, playing with toys we havent got or dont have time to build is fun. Downside is not getting free repair. Sure investigating is good, bit pointless when the arena is almost over and still nothing. I would agree with bringing insurance back. Not everyone can coin, but we can get uranium. 
  • PUSHY LYPSE
    PUSHY LYPSE
    Potential Threat
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 65
    So Kix Customer Service's response to the issue involving the use of Grease Monkey crews and the more than double charging of coins is....."Don't use Grease Monkey crews"? Are you kidding me? I wait 3 days for a response and that's what i get? Why not just tell me to shove a hot needle in my eye? Not only is reading the entirety of my ticket(s) to much to ask but fixing your issues was too i guess. I wasn't even made whole on my loses because reading all of the merged ticket is clearly to much to ask. 

    So here i sit, in a position to easily get #1 in my bracket, but not willing to because your event is all F'd up and i have no confidence I will be able to recoup the additional loses your junk programming is causing me. 

    Get your act together Kix......Aint nobody got time for this
  • Dark Horse-oldsg
    Dark Horse-oldsg
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 365
    bort said:
    I see lots of people wanting repair insurance back. The problem with that is it will then exclude lower levels that are not loaded with uranium. It would be better to have all repairs free but you have a limited number of battles.
    limited battle still comes down to luck of the draw. if you come up against 20 tough opponents you wont score anywhere near as well as 20 crap opponents.
    Interesting Idea Carl but i agree with Bort. You tend to get a run of certain fleets and often a run of players that should be outside your ranking group. In regard to repair insurance . A player can stock up on U before a FAT if they choose to play in it. It cartn be stolen like res could be when they were hard to come by and took frkin ages to get.

    Im really enjoying playing with fleets i cartn afford to win in normal game play and wouldnt have time to build anyway.
    My take on the format change was that the old system used to many resources for the revenue generated.  The new set up stands to be much more cost efficient for Kixeye.

     Uranium at best generates income indirectly and I would speculate that some of the most prolific battlers farm Uranium for free or close to it. 
    The return of insurance in its past incarnation seem highly unlikely if my premise is on target. 

    What Kixeye could do with this format is tweak the repair ratio to encourage more coined repairs while balancing demand.  I imagine they had a pretty good windfall from this FAT~ and they may not change anything (other than fixing known issue) for the next FAT until they see a drop in revenue. 

    To the revenue team I for one would spend 2 coins every time, but not 10 or in total loss 20 or more coins for an instant repair.  

    To the players at the top tier competition will be more about wallet than talent in nearly every competition.

    A parting thought for the development team.  Set up some sort of championship series for the top 'x' players in world or sector or the 500 or whatever.  The championship series could be a bracketed tourney with players best of 5? Once you are in its free ~ heck they could be recorded for people to watch ~ sure lots of problems and frankly not sure it would do anything for Kixeye's bottom line ~ but some players might really have a blast with it. 
  • NutzDeep
    NutzDeep
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 20
    So far so good
  • TonyLaTiger
    TonyLaTiger
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 333

    I mentioned earlier that the new toybox and tourney set up is fun. it was until recently. EVERY single battle theres 3-5  WUSSY MONARCHS, I know exactly how "COMPLEX" they can get. battle starts, swim away. i melt. "use goresaber" they melt too. ima use em myself


  • crazyjr123
    crazyjr123
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 396
    edited 6 Jul 2015, 1:50AM
    Here is my opnion, on the fat as i see it. You see i used the little letters, that's for a reason. I don't think too highly, of it right now. Even the drone fleets, were not that bad. But the dicks, spamming radar runners and 2 second large pinches, just drove me out. 7 in a row. and i don't coin, but i don't expect you to hear that. What you will want to hear, is people are running the Fat for just the coins extending a crew and coining the rocket.

    If we can't use part of our bases, docks, Why can we use other parts? Such as rockets and great hall. If you want to equalize it, shelf the whole F'ing base. No rocket, no crews, no fleet, make it a true skill test. right now it's a few using rockets and drones that just ruined my experience. I wasn't expecting to win anything, but wanted to respect you a little. Can't even do that, people doing what i call a **** move to get off repair free. It's your game let, the fools run it into the ground

    I really don't care, just letting you know. I'll be here, to turn off the lights and say i told you so.
  • jonathonvanderwall70
    jonathonvanderwall70
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 53
    Worst FAT yet... 
  • carl.wear.3
    carl.wear.3
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2013 Posts: 6,696
    bort said:
    I see lots of people wanting repair insurance back. The problem with that is it will then exclude lower levels that are not loaded with uranium. It would be better to have all repairs free but you have a limited number of battles.
    limited battle still comes down to luck of the draw. if you come up against 20 tough opponents you wont score anywhere near as well as 20 crap opponents.
    Interesting Idea Carl but i agree with Bort. You tend to get a run of certain fleets and often a run of players that should be outside your ranking group. In regard to repair insurance . A player can stock up on U before a FAT if they choose to play in it. It cartn be stolen like res could be when they were hard to come by and took frkin ages to get.

    Im really enjoying playing with fleets i cartn afford to win in normal game play and wouldnt have time to build anyway.
    With the original FAT I had no show of getting in the top 65. I tried, but couldn't keep up with the repair insurance and the heavy coiners. The current format; its a pain for the non coiners but at least I have a chance. I am currently 25th in my group. Am I able to stay in the top 25; who knows as the last few hours of it I will be asleep. ( Fat ends 7 am my time) but at least for the 1st time I will most probably be in the top 65.
  • carl.wear.3
    carl.wear.3
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2013 Posts: 6,696
    bort said:
    I see lots of people wanting repair insurance back. The problem with that is it will then exclude lower levels that are not loaded with uranium. It would be better to have all repairs free but you have a limited number of battles.
    limited battle still comes down to luck of the draw. if you come up against 20 tough opponents you wont score anywhere near as well as 20 crap opponents.
    Well isn't that how we find out who the best players are instead of the biggest coiners?
    The arena should be about skill, not who has brought the best fleets or can coin the most repairs or spend the most time on BP doing the arena.
  • AnotherLostSoul
    AnotherLostSoul
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 767
    edited 6 Jul 2015, 3:34AM
    Another failed attempt Kix.  Would have been great if not for the glitches around repairs in FAT.  
  • LtlAngryMeanDude
    LtlAngryMeanDude
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 459
    I dont think they failed, actually they prevailed most of the top 25 in my bracket are using alot of coin so no matter what we say here kix wont see this as a failure.  Gone are the days of skill and planning, coin buys you point and click fleets so no thinking involved.  I coin when its worth it, but this hull is not worth it.  The community failed by paying for something that isnt worthy of it. 
  • AnEyeForAnEye
    AnEyeForAnEye
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2014 Posts: 7,191
    edited 6 Jul 2015, 4:06AM
    Overall a decent FAT for me. I ve finished higher then ever before, i actually stood a chance  this time around.

    But ya, the repairs are just way too high and limited to coiner only. Dont know if they did better then in the past FAT.

    Personnaly ive gone coinless, no point coinin when the top 10 is out of your league.

    2 things that need to be reintraged:

    1- Uranium insurance

    2- 25 % repair on flts after battle to allow low dmged flt to keep goin without having to coin a coin or 2, or to have to repair an hour each time.

  • IamZonk
    IamZonk
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 116
    BOGUS AS HELL... Win 25 times get awarded an Atlas... Yay Yippee, a blueprint I've had for quite some time. Nice work fellas. 
    I am Zonk
  • ya mum
    ya mum
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    Joined Jun 2011 Posts: 259
    IamNutz said:
    BOGUS AS HELL... Win 25 times get awarded an Atlas... Yay Yippee, a blueprint I've had for quite some time. Nice work fellas. 
    let me guess u still waiting for uavs like the rest of us to had the bp for months now still no uav
  • IamZonk
    IamZonk
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 116
    ya mum said:
    IamNutz said:
    BOGUS AS HELL... Win 25 times get awarded an Atlas... Yay Yippee, a blueprint I've had for quite some time. Nice work fellas. 
    let me guess u still waiting for uavs like the rest of us to had the bp for months now still no uav
    No, I actually have the Atlas, Harlock Atlas, Warbird, and all the UAV's currently available.. That's why it seems really bogus to me. LOL
    I am Zonk
  • Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 279
    25 wins! I went 17-2 and still managed to tell them with my coins that this is unacceptable. Was it possible to 25 wins for free?
  • Firehawk85
    Firehawk85
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2013 Posts: 1,183
    I've got to say, that even though the top 10 or so seem to be coining...most are not.  I've only been using the free repairs (I did use U to unlock some additional fleets), and I'm ranked 35th atm.  That tells me it isn't driving the additional coining they had hoped it would...
  • maxtech
    maxtech
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2014 Posts: 20
    No points for killing a thousand drones is total BS, who at Kixeye actually plays this f-n game?
  • Tom2433
    Tom2433
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 89
     Maybe someone should do background check of the guy that came up with the new FAT. my bet is he is getting two paychecks one from kix and one from the competition.    
  • Judge Peps
    Judge Peps
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 348
    must say, i spent some coins at the beginning of this, as i enjoy the arena, but to be honest it just got boring so I stopped coining. id rather play using my own stuff with repair insurance, dont care about getting the uri back for wins i can get enough by hitting dredges if they give that option whilst the events on.

    All Ill say kixeye is I down loaded World of Warships today, I havent spent one penny on it and im having great fun and playing lits of battles. and the more I get into  the more chance I might happily spend some cash on it. This game now it might just become a project to log in and click repair and build at this stage

    Judge Peps Lev 84
  • drizzit
    drizzit
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2011 Posts: 478
    I see lots of people wanting repair insurance back. The problem with that is it will then exclude lower levels that are not loaded with uranium. It would be better to have all repairs free but you have a limited number of battles. 


    I think that is not a bad idea if the tournament was about who is the best. But the tournament has never been about who is the best.

    cwelshy1 said:
    may i ask kixeye how meany tickets do you get asking you to return the arena back to the first set up when it was fun ???   listening to customer "feed back" is key to making cash :) make this game great again you must take the feed back that makes scene

    1hr ship build tokens must go they are worthless  
    please please please open your ears 

    i use to enjoy the FAT  but now it still is a coiners competition.  sure it must be nice for people to play with otherwise unattainable fleets but in the end after lots of coin you get nothing you can take into standard play.  no repair insurance is killing the FAT..not interested in coining repairs on fleets ..no vxp ..vxp was the best part about fat.  what a joke 1hour ship build token here and there  a 2 coin prize that cost hundreds of coin to get.  why so are greedy ?31 wins 3 loses rank 11 is 




  • John Sharrett
    John Sharrett
    Potential Threat
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 63
    cost on repair has gone up was 38 coin to fix my fleet now 44 coin to fix my fleet, good job I only did the 1st day and enough points to keep in top 10
  • bort
    bort
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 8,257
    edited 6 Jul 2015, 11:40AM
    bort said:
    I see lots of people wanting repair insurance back. The problem with that is it will then exclude lower levels that are not loaded with uranium. It would be better to have all repairs free but you have a limited number of battles.
    limited battle still comes down to luck of the draw. if you come up against 20 tough opponents you wont score anywhere near as well as 20 crap opponents.
    Interesting Idea Carl but i agree with Bort. You tend to get a run of certain fleets and often a run of players that should be outside your ranking group. In regard to repair insurance . A player can stock up on U before a FAT if they choose to play in it. It cartn be stolen like res could be when they were hard to come by and took frkin ages to get.

    Im really enjoying playing with fleets i cartn afford to win in normal game play and wouldnt have time to build anyway.
    With the original FAT I had no show of getting in the top 65. I tried, but couldn't keep up with the repair insurance and the heavy coiners. The current format; its a pain for the non coiners but at least I have a chance. I am currently 25th in my group. Am I able to stay in the top 25; who knows as the last few hours of it I will be asleep. ( Fat ends 7 am my time) but at least for the 1st time I will most probably be in the top 65.
    If you couldn't get top 65 in the old format, you need to build a better fvf fleet.

    I dont coin at all and managed top 10 with a large amount of **** time in the old format, and ranked a ton of ships. I did save up 200k uranium before the FAT though.  New format I am still top 10 with not that much **** time, but it has sucked balls. I am not getting any VXP for my ships. I can't use a top fleet, as it would take too long to repair, so have to compromise, in case I lose.

    Do I have any chance of 50 wins in this format? No. i'll end up on about 5k points and a best streak of 17. 

    What does make this fat much easier is that people were entered as they logged in - they did not have to enter the tourney manually. Result is a huge number of people entered, and not participating.


  • PanHandal7
    PanHandal7
    Potential Threat
    Joined Feb 2015 Posts: 84
    So the bottom 113 players in my bracket have 0 points, If they haven't participated is the ranking going to be that 1st place will be 113th place like has happened before? i.e. those who haven't played will be excluded at the end.
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