7/2 FAT Official Discussion

  • trojan66
    trojan66
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Apr 2011 Posts: 3,252
    This is the first FAT ive participated in so i dont have any past experience to compare this one to, but I will put in my 2 cents for this one and my first impression so far.

    The good: Love the sandbox! playing with ships I couldnt imagine owning and kicking **** with them gets 2 thumbs up. Evenly matched opponents, awesome it tests how well a player builds a fleet, and tests how well they are able to use said fleet. Truly a test of skill match to match, not a test of who has the better tech.

    The bad: repair times, it is what killed most of the fvf in the day to day game, sure it is half time repairs but most matches end up giving you 6+ hours repair unless you completely dominate your opponent. If you lose its more like 11 hours +. I am currently sitting in 17th place in my bracket and that is after 3 matches so not a lot of action is happening= boring. The win quotas: way too many required to win anything of value. 150 wins for 1 limited ship? with the way matches are going there is no way a free to player is going to be able to grind that out, no way in hell so that is a blatant coiner only quota, and an expensive 1 at that. The way my bracket is going so far I find it unlikely that even the top 10 guys in our bracket are going to make it to that point given their current pace, yet they will be getting 3 just because they won the bracket.

    Solutions: Cut repair times down to 1/4 or even 1/8 of current to make the event more fun. Coiners will still be spending similar levels of coin becuase they will still be competing with eachoter for the same prizes, the difference is more excitemetn getting there. Bring back the insurance thing i heard of as a method for non coiners to sort of keep up. Lower the win quota for a more reasonable goal to achieve.
    :)
  • Altonator
    Altonator
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 1,811
    Acer9711 said:
    kixeye DONT CARE, do u guys get it lmao, all they care about is $$$$$, not their players. they dont give a crap to us, the ones that do the spending
        Why i quit spending as have hordes of others lets see  . one time in th ol days i could purchase hulls looking forward to ranking them in the monthly arena  event  ,way steadier  matchups ,too me this was a weekend rankathon great funn battling with my hulls and what i retrofitted or did not 
       Granted  as a longtimer the old style FAT  i had an advantage more hulls to mix and match  all the prints etc  , The Toybox though would have evened the field  granting every one from rank 5 to rank 114  the same hulls and prints . Leaving   the winners the ones who had seat time and uranium gathering abilities the edge not perfect but   def more friendly to the majority .
         However  Turning this into the FART    forsaken arena Raid   Tourney   , well although i will still play it is the end of building any hulls at SPEED   Because   I Have no tourney at the end of the month  to rank them in play endless hours of fvf and hav funn anymore :neutral: 
  • Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 279
    Forsaken Arena Revenue Tournament! I like it!!!!

  • Duke Nukem
    Duke Nukem
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 42
    This event is still not working like it should.  The "known issues" looked to have been fixed.  But, just now ..........I had a good match....going to coin the repair and jump right back in.  It charged me double and did not repair the fleet.  This is just plain old fashioned bullsheet.
  • War_StalkeR
    War_StalkeR
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 1,244
    ****! I like the way it is going! I awoke today's morning and found out that NO madman grinded overnight 30k points! This is really awesome when skill rules!
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    Sundered clouds, a blooody rain, seas that fill the sky
    Capture the gods, advance the troops, fire consumes the towers
    Forge all spirits and bloodlines into the nine killing powers!
  • AWESOME_SHADOWCAT
    AWESOME_SHADOWCAT
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Apr 2013 Posts: 675
    Dreaded said:
    I preferred using my own boats. Not a fan of the toy box. Instead of leveling the playing field this has increased the gap. Please revert it back, give us Uranium Protection and scrap the toy box.

  • Altonator
    Altonator
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 1,811
    Forsaken Arena Revenue Tournament! I like it!!!!

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  • AWESOME_SHADOWCAT
    AWESOME_SHADOWCAT
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Apr 2013 Posts: 675
    edited 3 Jul 2015, 4:46AM
    Dreaded said:
    I preferred using my own boats. Not a fan of the toy box. Instead of leveling the playing field this has increased the gap. Please revert it back, give us Uranium Protection and scrap the toy box.

    NO, NO he's not right. This increases no gap what so ever. The only players complaining about this format are those that spent the time and or $$$$$ to make an arena only fleet and are now pizzed about it. They were able to coin a crusader or goresaber fleet that not only walks all over bases and raid targets but could also win them a FAT. Now they cannot use their new toys and have to use their skills of building to actually get ahead in the FAT. Well that and more $$$$ which they do not want to continue spending.

    This is a great format. What is bumming players out is the slap in the face that kixeye continues to live and create by. Make the fun big, the play times short, and repairs expensive. If you want to play then you have to pay. Apparently it works because they keep cramming every new thing down our throats under this format. Play for 5 minutes, repair for 10 hours. Want to play more??? Whip out the Credit Card suckaaa!!!!
    your grade in sarcasm is A+ u deserve a badge 3 hulls 5 1 hr rep tokens and if this wasnt sarcasm u r insane cause saying U like the format means u liek tha fact thats its purely coin driven not skill 
  • SunGod1
    SunGod1
    Master Tactician
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 2,103
    That is why I pushed for 1982 arcade game prices. I would spend 20 coins for 3 repair insurance with the 25% health recovery after battle.    
    We would crash the servers.   Kixeye dont listen... 
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  • Ewokie
    Ewokie
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    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 1,518


    i mean its fun, i admit ive spend a few coins just repairing the fleets just to try a new combo but im not going nuts spending..
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  • freparkng
    freparkng
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,284
    THE_Ewok said:


    i mean its fun, i admit ive spend a few coins just repairing the fleets just to try a new combo but im not going nuts spending..
    I just tossed those drones on my old hurries for giggles
  • SunGod1
    SunGod1
    Master Tactician
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 2,103
    trojan66 said:
    This is the first FAT ive participated in so i dont have any past experience to compare this one to, but I will put in my 2 cents for this one and my first impression so far.

    The good: Love the sandbox! playing with ships I couldnt imagine owning and kicking **** with them gets 2 thumbs up. Evenly matched opponents, awesome it tests how well a player builds a fleet, and tests how well they are able to use said fleet. Truly a test of skill match to match, not a test of who has the better tech.

    The bad: repair times, it is what killed most of the fvf in the day to day game, sure it is half time repairs but most matches end up giving you 6+ hours repair unless you completely dominate your opponent. If you lose its more like 11 hours +. I am currently sitting in 17th place in my bracket and that is after 3 matches so not a lot of action is happening= boring. The win quotas: way too many required to win anything of value. 150 wins for 1 limited ship? with the way matches are going there is no way a free to player is going to be able to grind that out, no way in hell so that is a blatant coiner only quota, and an expensive 1 at that. The way my bracket is going so far I find it unlikely that even the top 10 guys in our bracket are going to make it to that point given their current pace, yet they will be getting 3 just because they won the bracket.

    Solutions: Cut repair times down to 1/4 or even 1/8 of current to make the event more fun. Coiners will still be spending similar levels of coin becuase they will still be competing with eachoter for the same prizes, the difference is more excitemetn getting there. Bring back the insurance thing i heard of as a method for non coiners to sort of keep up. Lower the win quota for a more reasonable goal to achieve.
    If you are in the top 65 you will win a ship..  the kill quotas get you extra prizes afaik.    
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  • Corp. Punishment
    Corp. Punishment
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 951

    I didn't even get to fight...my fleet fought without even giving me any sign that the battle was occurring or had occurred, until I saw my fleets needing repair. What a fricking joke. I rarely experience any game problems.

  • carl.wear.3
    carl.wear.3
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2013 Posts: 6,696
    The toybox would work if repairs were free and everyone was limited to say 20 matches. Most points at end wins. But no, Kixeye has to turn it into yet another money grab.
  • DD Outcast
    DD Outcast
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jan 2013 Posts: 251
    ok fock me just got ripped off i want my coin back 1/2 time is not working SO OVER THIS BULLSH!T support is not even working what a focking joke WHY do you fock something that was so fun :( 
    Tears from cheaters will be flooding the forums. I can foresee it. Anyway, we do take this stuff seriously. We hatehateHATE cheaters. People who cheated will be dealt with. 


  • RossWood
    RossWood
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 142
    Yes being a level 93 coiner I would like to know kixeye's thoughts on what part of this arena tournament do they feel is to attract us paying customers? I haven't noticed a benefit worth spending coins in this event maybe I'm missing something. I purchased my monthly amount of coins in high hopes of this event and instead I am greatly disappointed.
    ROSS CROW
  • bruce_lee
    bruce_lee
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 1,735
    The FAT format itself is not bad but changing over to coining 1/2 repair times is a deal breaker. It is good for a few free battles without damaging regular game fleets but I will pass on going for the tokens and new ship due to the price of competing in this one.


  • Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Kevin_K_dangerHobo
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 279
    I wonder if at the end of this FART Rooster will say: "thanks for the feedback, seemed mostly positive!" Then immediately close the thread.

  • lallas
    lallas
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Dec 2010 Posts: 160
    after 16 hours of FAT, rank 10 in my group have 1100 points. and i`m rank 120 with... zero fights. look like everything is going how was intended.
  • Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 279
    lallas said:
    after 16 hours of FAT, rank 10 in my group have 1100 points. and i`m rank 120 with... zero fights. look like everything is going how was intended.
    Playas gonna play. I'm 19th at 4 and 0, 655 points

  • crazyjr123
    crazyjr123
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 396
    Overall I like the new setup for FAT. Though I do have some issues that are minor that I think would make the overall experience a better one.

    1. Allow us to speed up the fleet repair. Currently, I had a 28min repair, that once it got down to 4mins 59 secs I was unable to speed up.

    2. Person with Victory gets free repair like before. I lost half a fleet, & won, but where I was hoping to see that free repair for having been victorious, I got nothing... Talk about a disappointment.

    3. For the Armor, why do we have D5-U, but no D5-E? I'd expect that the D5-E would have been in there, but was surprised when I found the D-E's only went up to D4-E. 

    4. In the weapons store, add in weapons like the D33-D (due to lighter weight then D33-DR).

    5. Also in the weapons store, add in the Poseidon Depth Charge.  
    You can speed it up.  You first have to cancel the repair, then there will be a 0 coin rep option if you are under 5 min.
    No their isn't, it rounds to a couple seconds into the next coin. I found this out with an hour to go, let it go to 59:45, stopped, 1 hour 2 seconds. WTH? let it run down again, this time to 55 minutes, redet to 1 hour 2 seconds, F this. However once it hit 29 minutes i was able to one coin the repair.

    BTW this thread talks about free repair being removed, it resets to over 5 minutes every time you stop the repair.

    https://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/557478
  • The god King
    The god King
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 883
    So is the first battle of the day still free, not free or does the first battle count sometime after 12PM EST? I'm just not understanding this. 
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  • Kevin_K_dangerHobo
    Kevin_K_dangerHobo
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 279
    No free battles Kixeye is a crook. Don't be fooled the 348th time
  • mahort
    mahort
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2014 Posts: 20
    i really want the tournament too be a free repair as in don't waste time and you can continue what you want to do if this is possible if not i will not be playing to game at all.  
  • JolleyRoger4
    JolleyRoger4
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Dec 2014 Posts: 115
    edited 3 Jul 2015, 10:11AM
    There is no depths to anger i feel towards kixeye at this point. Feel free stop working in the industry because you morons are so freaking far removed from knowing what is good for a game its astonishing, do you even know how to find a toilet to piss in when you wake up in the morning.

  • -DJ-
    -DJ-
    Potential Threat
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 28
    I still haven't received this free battle they reckon is fixed? Is it hidden in my base behind a secret underground waterfall that I have to hire Indiana Jones to find?
  • arnast
    arnast
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 1,203
    edited 3 Jul 2015, 9:54AM
    Don't know if anyone else is havin the problem but i just spent 1 hr trying to log into BP..When i was able to log in and go to the arena my fleet moved for the first few seconds then no control and the ships and drones left the whole map all together and when the things got back to "normal" my fleet was destroyed and now they got 14hr repair.. now why doesn't this surprise me..kixeye tries something new and eveything goes to %$#%^ crap.
  • Excecutioner
    Excecutioner
    Potential Threat
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 75
    No insurance, so we have to coin every single repair. Yeah. Not happening.
    I agree, this is BS I saved up 200k Uranium for the FAT and BOOM no repair insurance, definaly a coiners FAT this month...
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  • F4LL3N_1
    F4LL3N_1
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2013 Posts: 415
    A 2nd raid every month. Yes!!! That's what we needed, more chores and something else to spend our bottomless wallets on.
    Also great job on the prize system. 150 wins for the hull. Wow. With repairs you get, at the most, 4 free battles per day.
    Way to address repair times. Throw another event at us. Oh we get 1/2 repair, now just gotta get 150 wins. Easy.

    That's my new saying now. Everytime someone wastes my time/money, I'll be like: "Oh you cheeky ****, you did a kix on me!"
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