♣ RF Special Ops - Drop Rates ♣

MX36
MX36
Unicorn Overlord
Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,261
edited 18 Jul 2014, 2:20AM

Hello commanders..  :)

With the AC45 bases flooding the sector, I decided to start hunting for some Epic Tech for my Vanquishers before Shadow Ops begins. Also to see how good the Special Ops drop rate & I wasn't disappointed as these bases are loaded with Special Ops !!

After attacking over a hundred bases (100+) in a row, bases with the same old (boring) layout, I can now -within just  40 seconds- reach the core of each base & destroy the CC with ~zero repairs.

[spoiler=Armored Corps] Here are some facts & Observations: 

♦ AC45 bases have the same layout guarded by regular Megas, Hellfires , and most notably Flak tanks. 

♦ If you fully destroyed a AC45, you will get 13,506,000 Metal & 12,608,500 Oil.

♦ AC45 bases will not give you any resources bonus.

♦ The Special Ops drop rate is 100% i.e. you will get a special op reward every time you manage to destroy the CC.

♦ The only defensive Special Ops dropped was the [Heavy Metal].

♦ After beating all these 100+ AA45s, The Rewards were as follows:
 
Classified by category:           
Offensive         46%
Defensive        17%
Tactical           32%
Epic Tech        5%





Classified by rarity:
Common           0%
Uncommon       34%
Rare                55%
Epic                 11%



Classified by the number of times dropped: 
- Road Rally                          39 times.
- Deuce & a Half                    27 times.
- Heavy Metal                        17 times.
- Rolling Thunder                   5 times.
- Super Heavy Engine             5 times.
- Forward Operating Base       3 times.
- Dragon Fly                          2 times.
- Hand of God                       1 time.
- Raining Blood                      1 time.

♦ The full list of 100 bonus drops are here : AC45 Rewards


♦ The sum of resources collected from 100+ bases would total over 1,350,600,000 Metal & 1,260,850,000 Oil. But since I have only destroyed their CCs, just 25% of these amounts were collected! 
[/spoiler]




[spoiler=Sickle Syndicate] These bases are not hard to find & if you hit one, the game will generate another not far away from it. They are built as a fortress with the SSCC in the center surrounded by heavy defenses in a symmetrical design often a square or a circle.


Some Facts & Observations: 

♦ The old SS40 layouts will reward you small uneven amounts of Metal & Oil, unlike the new ones.

♦ SS40s were the first RF bases to reward Thorium upon destruction.

♦ Every SS40 has a Drone Silo with different mix of units inside.

♦ SS40 bases still have the normal version of Riflemen – Heavy Gunners – Mortar Teams as bunkered units & LSDs.

♦ The only Defensive Special Ops. dropped from SS40 is the [ Hell on Wheels ].

♦ SS40s are defended by different powerful units such as Behemoths – Hercules – Flak Tanks - Mega Tanks & Gladiators.

♦ SS40s used to drop a lot of the defensive Spec. Op. [Gat Attack], but not anymore!

♦ There is a very small chance to get resources bonus from SS40s of only a 1 Million Metal & Oil.

♦ SS40s ruins might drop the lost (Epic) Tech [Machined Treads] which also can be unlocked in the gear store for 250 Medals.

♦  SS40s have a series of missions that reward special units. starting with the Colossus > Havoc > Behemoth > Vanguard.

♦ The cost of Special Ops. Re-roll is 100,000 thorium except when you want to re-roll a resources bonus which cost 200,000.


♦ Note that the % of Epic Tech drop rate is not included, because it’s already unlocked from the gear store! I don’t know how will this affect the accuracy of these numbers, but it should work very fine with most of you especially the players who have unlocked the [Machined Treads] Epic Tech. 


After destroying 100+ bases, here are the Special Ops. : 



Classified by Category: 


Offensive:                                  30%

Defensive:                                 23%

Tactical:                                    43%

Epic Tech:                                 N/A

Resources:                                4%





Classified by Rarity:


Common:                                      0%

Uncommon:                                 88%

Rare:                                           8%

Epic:                                            N/A

Non Spec. Ops:                             4%



Classified by the number of times dropped:


- Deuce & a Half                                      39

- Heavy Lifting                                         26

- Hell on Wheels                                      23

- Resources Bonus                                    4

- Forward Operating Base                         3

- Rare Air                                                3

- Dragonfly                                              1

- Hand of God                                         1



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWZ5IKZ7-Yk


♦ The full list of 100 bonus drops are here :  SS40 Rewards

[/spoiler]


[spoiler=MAYHEM] Some Facts & Observations:
♦ M.A.Y.H.E.M is an acronym yet to be known, Similar to D.A.V.E from BYM.
♦ MAYHEM is ruled by the chaotic leader (Odin). 
♦ MAYHEM bases have every turret type in the game placed in a random order around their CCs.
♦ M35 bases contain 11,706,000 Metal & 11,706,000 Oil.
♦ The aptly named Mayhem bases have the widest variety of units scattered randomly around buildings such as Rhinos, Paladins, Challengers, Gladiators, Hercules, Colossi, Flaks, Gatling trucks, Razorbacks, Hellfire tanks & Stingers.
♦ M35 bases have approximately 50:50 chances to drop Special Ops : Resource bonuses.
♦ M35 bases drop several Tactical Special Ops, but only one Offensive (Mob Mentality) & one Defensive (Canned Spinach).
♦ M35 bases drop Special Ops that represent chaos & rebellion such as (Mob Mentality) & (Operative).
♦ M35 bases drop one of the most useful special ops in the game (Anti-personnel Shells) which prevents LSD spawning from destroyed buildings.
♦ The estimated percentages include Lost Tech chances.
 
Here are the filtered results of Special Ops dropped from the 100+ bases: 
♦ Classified by Rarity:

RSS Bonus:                     49%
Common:                        0%
Uncommon:                    43%
Rare:                             4%
Lost Tech:                      4%
♦ Classified by Category:

Offensive:                      17%
Defensive:                     11%
Tactical:                        19%
Lost Tech:                      4%
RSS Bonus:                     49%
♦ Classified by the Number of times dropped:
Mob Mentality                                  17 times
Canned Spinach                               11 times
Anti-Personnel Shells                        15 times
Forward Operating Base                     2 times
Operative                                          2 times
Powered Skin Suit                              4 times
 
Types of Resource Bonus : 

♦ Resource Bonus (if dropped) have a chance to be : 
6 Million Metal:                     43%
6 Million Oil:                         43%
6 Million Both:                      14%
Here is the link to all 100 bases drops : M35
And here is the link to the filtered Special Ops drops : Images
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[spoiler=Red Locust] Coming Soon :) [/spoiler]



[spoiler=Highway Zealots] Coming Soon :) [/spoiler]

Happy Hunting ! :)
* kixeye, please upgrade your text editor & give us the option to change colors.


P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
  • Elder_Lee
    Elder_Lee
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 7,468

    MX36,

    Given that the AC 45 that you were attacking and have based your data on will not be the ones used for the Shadow Ops event, let's see how it effects the numbers.

    CM Sulaco said:

    When Shadow Ops starts, the 45 Armored Core Bases will have their difficulty raised in accordance to the Shadow Ops Missions. This is a heads up!


    Keep your head down, your ammo dry and the FIGHT alive!  
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  • Gen_Prime
    Gen_Prime
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 1,065
    Elder_Lee said:

    MX36,

    Given that the AC 45 that you were attacking and have based your data on will not be the ones used for the Shadow Ops event, let's see how it effects the numbers.

    CM Sulaco said:

    When Shadow Ops starts, the 45 Armored Core Bases will have their difficulty raised in accordance to the Shadow Ops Missions. This is a heads up!


    weren't they the shadow ops ones?

  • Factors
    Factors
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Nov 2013 Posts: 907

    Nice breakdown but I believe they are changing the layouts, payouts and drops, so this might not be relevant but it's awesome to see someone put a lot of effort into something these days.

  • MX36
    MX36
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,261
    Elder_Lee said:

    MX36,

    Given that the AC 45 that you were attacking and have based your data on will not be the ones used for the Shadow Ops event, let's see how it effects the numbers.

    Thanks for the clarification, Elder Lee :)
    i wanted to estimate the drop rates of Spec. Ops for an RF & started with the AC. will repeat this testing with other factions (SS40 & Red Locust 35, ...etc.).
    will the new AC drop Special Ops during Shadow OPs ?  

    P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
  • CM Sulaco
    CM Sulaco
    Incursion Leader
    Joined May 2014 Posts: 1,448
    Quite an impressive pool of data that you have obtained from these Armored Core Bases. The graphs sure to provide a great visual.

  • Elder_Lee
    Elder_Lee
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 7,468
    CM Sulaco said:
    Quite an impressive pool of data that you have obtained from these Armored Core Bases. The graphs sure to provide a great visual.

    CM Sulaco,

    MX36 is renown for his statistical breakdowns and backs it up with all the cool PowerPoint graphs and facts.

    Hiss presentations are great.

    Keep your head down, your ammo dry and the FIGHT alive!  
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  • MX36
    MX36
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,261

    Whenever there's an update we should get a detailed explaination and breakdown much like we see in this thread.  This is the type of thing players love.  If KIXEYE don't have someone who can do this already then why not ask MX36 to do it?  Food for thought, Sulaco.

    i intend to do this with other factions very soon. i just wish they increase the spawn rate of high-level RFs. :|

    P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
  • Politto_Land
    Politto_Land
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 367
    edited 28 Jun 2014, 6:57PM

    They seem to have same drop rate as '40 sickles.

    You can get easily a +40% prod spec op with those.

    - Road Rally                          39 times.
    - Deuce & a Half                    27 times.
    - Heavy Metal                        17 times.
    - Rolling Thunder                   5 times.
    - Super Heavy Engine             5 times.
    - Forward Operating Base       3 times.
    - Dragon Fly                          2 times.
    - Hand of God                       1 time.
    - Raining Blood                      1 time.

    The usual drops from 40 sickles aswell!

  • War-chess
    War-chess
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 1,499

    I am going to move this over to the players guide and pin it to, as this thread just made my top list of useful thread that i have looked into for some time now 


    Great job MX36

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  • Grzegorz2121
    Grzegorz2121
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    Joined Apr 2014 Posts: 307

    It isn't epic tech It's lost tech :)

  • bluepikachu7
    bluepikachu7
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 1,623
    MX36 said:

    Hello commanders..  :)

    With the AC45 bases flooding the sector, I decided to start hunting for some Epic Tech for my Vanquishers before Shadow Ops begins. Also to see how good the Special Ops drop rate & I wasn't disappointed as these bases are loaded with Special Ops !!

    After attacking over a hundred bases (100+) in a row, bases with the same old (boring) layout, I can now -within just  40 seconds- reach the core of each base & destroy the CC with ~zero repairs.

    Here are some facts & Observations:

    ♦ AC45 bases have the same layout guarded by regular Megas, Hellfires , and most notably Flak tanks.

    ♦ If you fully destroyed a AC45, you will get 13,506,000 Metal & 12,608,500 Oil.

    ♦ AC45 bases will not give you any resources bonus.

    ♦ The Special Ops drop rate is 100% i.e. you will get a special op reward every time you manage to destroy the CC.

    ♦ The only defensive Special Ops dropped was the [Heavy Metal].

    ♦ After beating all these 100+ AA45s, The Rewards were as follows:
     
    Classified by category:          
                Offensive         46%
                Defensive        17%
                Tactical           32%
                Epic Tech        5%





    Classified by rarity:
                Common           0%
                Uncommon       34%
                Rare                55%
                Epic                 11%



    Classified by the number of times dropped:
    - Road Rally                          39 times.
    - Deuce & a Half                    27 times.
    - Heavy Metal                        17 times.
    - Rolling Thunder                   5 times.
    - Super Heavy Engine             5 times.
    - Forward Operating Base       3 times.
    - Dragon Fly                          2 times.
    - Hand of God                       1 time.
    - Raining Blood                      1 time.

    ♦ The full list of 100 bonus drops are here : AC45 Rewards


    ♦ The sum of resources collected from 100+ bases would total over 1,350,600,000 Metal & 1,260,850,000 Oil. But since I have only destroyed their CCs, just 25% of these amounts were collected! 


    * kixeye, please upgrade your text editor & give us the option to change colors.

    This is a **** FANTASTIC thread. LOVE all the statistics and graphs. Makes me want to do it as well. 

  • Tilen Pintari
    Tilen Pintari
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 9

    wait wait wait... *ahem* I citate : "I can now -within just 40 seconds- reach the core of each base & destroy the CC with ~zero repairs." 

    Does that mean you can baisicaly "snoipah" out the cc and don't need to completley annihilate it?

  • MX36
    MX36
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,261

    wait wait wait... *ahem* I citate : "I can now -within just 40 seconds- reach the core of each base & destroy the CC with ~zero repairs." 

    Does that mean you can baisicaly "snoipah" out the cc and don't need to completley annihilate it?

    if you read the post again, i did all these bases when the AC45 first appeared on the map with the "old" normal layout before the Shadow Ops began.

    P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
  • MX36
    MX36
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,261

    It isn't epic tech It's lost tech :)

    take a look in your workshop  ;) 

    P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
  • MX36
    MX36
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,261



    Just added the SS40 Special Ops. drops ! 
    share what you get from these bases & let us know about any new drops !
    if you have any question, idea, correction, feel free to post :)

    + New RFs will be added very soon. Which one should i inspect next ? 

    P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
  • OneeOnee
    OneeOnee
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jun 2014 Posts: 318
    MX36 said:



    Just added the SS40 Special Ops. drops ! 
    share what you get from these bases & let us know about any new drops !
    if you have any question, idea, correction, feel free to post :)

    + New RFs will be added very soon. Which one should i inspect next ? 

    If you wanna save some time, I can do a Specific rogue faction and wipe it out 100 times and give you the results...

  • MX36
    MX36
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,261

    If you wanna save some time, I can do a Specific rogue faction and wipe it out 100 times and give you the results...

    that would be great !  :D Which RF you want to start with ? (it's better to choose RFs that still drop Lost Tech) 

    i have started with the [ Red Locust ] & will continue with [Mayhem] & [Hell Hounds] after that.

    P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
  • OneeOnee
    OneeOnee
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jun 2014 Posts: 318
    MX36 said:

    If you wanna save some time, I can do a Specific rogue faction and wipe it out 100 times and give you the results...

    that would be great !  :D Which RF you want to start with ? (it's better to choose RFs that still drop Lost Tech) 

    i have started with the [ Red Locust ] & will continue with [Mayhem] & [Hell Hounds] after that.

    Hell Hounds

  • MX36
    MX36
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,261
    MX36 said:

    that would be great !  :D Which RF you want to start with ? (it's better to choose RFs that still drop Lost Tech) 

    i have started with the [ Red Locust ] & will continue with [Mayhem] & [Hell Hounds] after that.

    Hell Hounds

    almost done with the Mayhem & Red Locust bases. it's very hard to find 35s these days due to Armored Corpse invasion.
    i will post the results very soon. :)  

    P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
  • LuckyJ2
    LuckyJ2
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 4

    cool!
  • cotura
    cotura
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 2

    ok lets do it

  • MX36
    MX36
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,261


    added the MAYHEM Special Ops drops. almost done with [Red Locust] ~88%  and i will post it very soon.  :)
    can someone help me organize this thread with "Spoilers" i don't know how to use them & i don't want to mess things up! 

    P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
  • richard47886556
    richard47886556
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 1

    hey how is the game?
  • chicholino79
    chicholino79
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 1
    edited 26 Jul 2014, 12:25PM

    hmmmm


    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
  • Mustafa Ismahel
    Mustafa Ismahel
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 2

    hello kixeye i band i do not know why i band pleas open it game for me. you can go my game you watch any thing i not do any cheat pleas open it .and it is 1 years ago i band i do not know . bout i do not play my war for 1day .and i open it i watch it is banded -_- pleas open please ,,,,,, hello neeed helppp me plsss hello. kıxeye sektor296 name mustafa 35 lwl banned open banned help me plss plsss opennn this is ID 31462051 plsss please open plssss

  • Mustafa Ismahel
    Mustafa Ismahel
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 2

    hello kixeye i band i do not know why i band pleas open it game for me. you can go my game you watch any thing i not do any cheat pleas open it .and it is 1 years ago i band i do not know . bout i do not play my war for 1day .and i open it i watch it is banded -_- pleas open please ,,,,,, hello neeed helppp me plsss hello. kıxeye sektor296 name mustafa 35 lwl banned open banned help me plss plsss opennn this is ID 31462051 plsss please open plssss

  • MX36
    MX36
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,261
    i am sorry for the delay but we don't have access to electricity/internet in our town due to war. ( #gazaunderattack )

    P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
  • MR.XULQI
    MR.XULQI
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 121

    great information and work MX36 would you mind if I share this information, in KT news page at facebook.If you are there you will be there full credits for work and hats off, good presentation. 

  • nighthaw_47
    nighthaw_47
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 1
    Thanks, What troops should be used?
    Hawk_47
  • Omer Celikovic
    Omer Celikovic
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 45
    thnx MX .... kixeye u should make him a MOD ..

    i have a question .. so what is my best chance to get epic tech ?? what RF given the most chance ?
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