The real reason Launchers are a "BAD IDEA" «123» Go

Praetor of Locust

It isn't because they "level the playing field" 

It isn't because i'm "buthurt"

The reason launchers ruined the game and caused me to comprehensively quit is that they ruined one of the deep reasons BP was fun for me:

The strategic decision making as to what to build on a ship.

Best weapon for most fleets for most purposes now is launcher. This is stupid, this is boring and this kills the game. I have not logged in since the start of the launcher raid. I have retired from game, retired from locust and this post will be my last interaction with a game that was a 3 year addiction on which I spent thousands of dollars. 

Kixeye, you have been teetering back and forth on the brink, one moronic, short sighted decision after another. This one just tips it over the edge,

TheRealGitmo

sadly, he's correct

Admiral_Ackabar

The next game you play will be better than the last, for sure you will never have to adapt ever again in anybstrategy game.

Ever.

WarmApplePie

The part about no strategy and different weapons for different fleets is a legit point.   I have 2 year old battleship fleets that i can get rid of cannons, free up a special slot and have a fleet that at the moment, level any base (bullseye), i have sea wolfs, Levis, HH, FF that i could put Launchers on everything. Have more range, more damage than any other possible combo. 

That couldn't be said about any weapon perviously put into the game.

NowhatImsayn?

SayUrPrayers

I Tend to Agree with You.

I will continue to play, since I have played for almost 2 years.

I don't want to just Quit.

Invested too Much time, Money, and Effort.

Seems like Lots of others, are Quitting too.

Thanks to this Launcher.

Seamus Mcbutternuts

So what do you tell the guy that dies in your base with a launcher fleet only getting 30%

Seamus Mcbutternuts

the day's of just throw some goalis in your base is over fella's it has been for a while....suck it up 

marty.l.sparks

They way to look at it is adapt. The game changes, we adapt. You now have a challenge to solve. So it makes some smaller players equal. Adapt. It is a strategy game after all.

Fractal

Im sure Kixeye has something coming thats going to make this whole launcher thing a little more complicated, then just slapping it on any hull.

GigaPirate

Although I largely agree with Hast, I would add that zombie specs generally make pretty short work of Nuc fleets. Even if I lose, that's three minutes repair to me, 12 hours to them. If that's not fun I don't know what is.

Evil Hamster

Every time they add something new, half the forum screams they are quitting. Gets kinda old and why I spend little time on the forum anymore.

A G O N Y

Yeah but funny thing is Im seeing a lot of abandoned bases around.

andy_v

People are adapting.  I am seeing more and more NCs fail in a base as folks learn what to do to stop them.  It is not an end game hull and weapon combination like everyone is saying.  

Neiloo83

Praetor of Locust said:

It isn't because they "level the playing field" 

It isn't because i'm "buthurt"

The reason launchers ruined the game and caused me to comprehensively quit is that they ruined one of the deep reasons BP was fun for me:

The strategic decision making as to what to build on a ship.

Best weapon for most fleets for most purposes now is launcher. This is stupid, this is boring and this kills the game. I have not logged in since the start of the launcher raid. I have retired from game, retired from locust and this post will be my last interaction with a game that was a 3 year addiction on which I spent thousands of dollars. 

Kixeye, you have been teetering back and forth on the brink, one moronic, short sighted decision after another. This one just tips it over the edge,

This is a long **** game, it's like Chess, takes a long time to lose and learn, winning takes a LOT of heart, you are either up for it or you are aren't and can't mate.

You are much higher than I in this game, but you lose because you are giving up.

GigaPirate

Neiloo83 said:

... but you lose because you are giving up.

Possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on the forums. Whether or not Hast's assessment of the game is correct, it has obviously run it's course for him. Battle Pirates is not a life-long commitment, it's a video game with a limited run-time. Realizing when it is time to move on for whatever reason is not losing - it's just ending.

Sprouts

Welcome back to HB3 thuds. Oh wait.

Capt_John_Cales

All to common thread, Kix release something different, it changes the game for a while but guess what its life span is a few months at best. I remember when Threshers with Maelstrom 5 were introduced, they walked through bases at the time, but players and hulls move on and they aren't what they once were. DNX was the hull to have and probably still is for most players but the coiners chase the advantage they are happy to pay for. Making the D92-U available as a T4 prize makes it a game leveler for a lot of players and probably those who are longer in the game or who have coined more may have their objections. One thing is for certain before you decide to "throw in the towel" Kix will probably introduce countermeasures to this so if you have coined a whole fleet, enjoy it while you can.

Altonator

THIS is not addapting it is being forced to once again either get flattenned or put this super wep   on ur def fleet so at least yu can   .... u know whatevr   idc won t stop playing but my coinnin just drops an drops 

They way to look at it is adapt. The game changes, we adapt. You now have a challenge to solve. So it makes some smaller players equal. Adapt. It is a strategy game after all.

orcaone

A lot of people are just losing the coin race... so they complain.

trojan66

Praetor of Locust said:

It isn't because they "level the playing field" 

It isn't because i'm "buthurt"

The reason launchers ruined the game and caused me to comprehensively quit is that they ruined one of the deep reasons BP was fun for me:

The strategic decision making as to what to build on a ship.

Best weapon for most fleets for most purposes now is launcher. This is stupid, this is boring and this kills the game. I have not logged in since the start of the launcher raid. I have retired from game, retired from locust and this post will be my last interaction with a game that was a 3 year addiction on which I spent thousands of dollars. 

Kixeye, you have been teetering back and forth on the brink, one moronic, short sighted decision after another. This one just tips it over the edge,

a counter will come out and it will be crap in a month or 2, ive seen nukes stopped in bases and ive seen them stopped in fvf all it takes is evade.

Ray_P

andy_v said:

People are adapting.  I am seeing more and more NCs fail in a base as folks learn what to do to stop them.  It is not an end game hull and weapon combination like everyone is saying.  

Killed a feet of them again (NC's with Launchers) today the good news.   The bad news 15 hr base fleet repair.  This on top of beating a HS fleet the day before for a 13 hr repair.   I somehow don't think adapting with this level of repair price tag is my definition of fun.

luis.lima.963

i dont know if the vindicator with his resistance to radiation cuts down the effects of the launcher, if it does you got your counter ship right there.
if not use drones, they dont get stacks for the shockwave

Neiloo83

GigaPirate said:

Neiloo83 said:

... but you lose because you are giving up.

Possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on the forums. Whether or not Hast's assessment of the game is correct, it has obviously run it's course for him. Battle Pirates is not a life-long commitment, it's a video game with a limited run-time. Realizing when it is time to move on for whatever reason is not losing - it's just ending.

You are entitled to your opinion, and you are entitled to "cherry pick" and find  what I said ridiculous  . I have NOTHING against any player. But he stated in his post that he gives up because of the new weapon, which will never be the end off the game, real players are already beating this, and the one's that can't are planning how to beat it.. If he want's it to be like that well fine, but you people are the real one's that do the killing in this game mate. 

This Forum means a lot and is full of good information to a lot of new players, they come on here and hear all this nay saying bull crap from players like you and they are beaten before they start. You REALLY DO SUCK. 

Quincey Bailey

Ever since this weapon came out, I've heard more compliants than tactics. There three New hull that can be used to counter the effects or used to defeat them plus old ships become usefull. Here is a tactic eg.. kamakazi style. 5 seascorpian A's 7 d92-u's, as3, uc3 (faster the better), se3. Little or no armour. D2e if you want it but ruins the tactic. With armour enough to be a threat but not enough points in one ship to initiate the shockwave. You are going to out gun them by default. Your ships with die but will cause shockwave on any ship.2400 health or better. Repair time you 1 hr 15 min. Their repair time, 8 or more hours depending on class And armour. Build tim.6 days vs 14. Refitting old scorp even faster. Command school 101, baby.

Shiba

Praetor of Locust said:

It isn't because they "level the playing field" 

It isn't because i'm "buthurt"

The reason launchers ruined the game and caused me to comprehensively quit is that they ruined one of the deep reasons BP was fun for me:

The strategic decision making as to what to build on a ship.

Best weapon for most fleets for most purposes now is launcher. This is stupid, this is boring and this kills the game. I have not logged in since the start of the launcher raid. I have retired from game, retired from locust and this post will be my last interaction with a game that was a 3 year addiction on which I spent thousands of dollars. 

Kixeye, you have been teetering back and forth on the brink, one moronic, short sighted decision after another. This one just tips it over the edge,

I disagree with you man..

Once the BB crew is fixed ( who knows when ASAP actually is )   this gun will be put back in its correct place.   It is going to cause us to change our guards to be able to keep out another fleet, while not over doing it where morts or siege missiles can walk right through. 
 

With my guard change, it doesnt matter what hull you put the launchers on they have died in my base. ( unless they run the BB crew )   There will always be a place for Morts and Missiles.

david.drake.9678067

lol theres plenty of ways to beat them

giwrgos dontas

today i kill 4 mcx with d92u, i was lucky because the guy he didn't use bulleseye brigade and my evade dnx do the dirty job.i agree with predator and i am almost out of the game. Out there is a lot of strategy games that u can play without money and repairs is instant.

wulfgaran

Oh please please please refit all your hulls to the launcher. 

The best weapon for FVF will never be a weapon that has 70% accuracy.

Strategy is more alive then ever. Ive noticed kix moving in a very positive direction with  weapons like distrupter cannons,chain guns and impulse guns

Just because you fight retards that stack their low evade short weapon range fleets when fighting impulse fleets. Derp derp derp. Dont think this this weapon is overpowered

it has some strengths and it has some weaknesses. If you think its going to be solution to every problem you could not be more wrong

Tell that to the guy who spanked a NC fleet with a evade mcx fleet with assault missiles and sfb3, and barely got scratched.

Counters already exist, i had worked out a new base design that would stop them a few days after the raid. 

Spending another 40 days refitting my guard fleet and changing turrets is a different story. Not in a hurry to do that. 

redrico

Some one call the WHAAAAABULANCE 

Patiszerg

You've spent thousands....? Are you serious?  Jesus H Christ... THOUSANDS ON A FREE FLASH GAME PLAYED VIA FACEBOOK?! Kixeye is laughing their butts off all the way to the bank. hahhahahahha

kev113BG_AB

i haven't been hit by them just yet..but i have seen them take out bases that were unbeatable..more people are coining and that is why kixeye is making it harder for us non-coiners