Base design parameters and Medals (merged thread)

  • slaydo
    slaydo
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 485
    so now they are telling us  we cant not build our bases the way we want them total bullshit whats next nerfing the hulls we have already won & built  this company is  a collision course with no players & certain bankruptcy if this stupid **** continues I for 1 will never ever spend another dime on any of kixeyes games after the last raid  greedy  bunch of **** 
  • shane.a.cooper
    shane.a.cooper
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 296
    Hey, I got an idea Kix.  How about since you've decided to take away 'free will' and making others subject themselves to the BS that is medals...we cut a deal.  The next time someone figures out how to do something with your game that wasn't intended...you just live with it the way we have to.  Oh how silly of me.

    No more square bases...wow.  The most basic base design...the one you start with even.  Just to much for everyone to handle.  If I was standing outside in the rain with an umbrella...I'm positive someone from your team would come out and take it from me...or at least try.   LOL

    But seriously.  From someone who's been playing online games since their inception...you're making the game to easy to play.  Most large successful online games have all suffered the same outcome from making their game to easy to play.  To easy for lower levels to move up quick.  Far to easy to advance without 'walking the path' and learning the game.  Just 'buying' your way through has the same result online as it does in real life.

    There is a very good chance most of you will not understand the wisdom shared here.

    I've shared it.  
    Rest is up to you.
    X


    My only wish is that Will and Barack had grown up together.  :- )
  • Stan Wheare
    Stan Wheare
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 177
    first attack button taken away cuz peeps did not want to lose there base fleets when hitting bases.now not alloud a square base cuz peeps dont want to use there brain and made easyer.what next take away turret in base as they are doing to much damage to fleet so they dont have to pay for there repairs.i think kix shourld sit around there square table and think inside it.at what they have done..
  • Goorash
    Goorash
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 11
    Lolumad said:
    LMAO, the new medal system will probably kill off all the smaller alliances in game, prepare for mass dis-bandings, I already disbanded mine.
    Why? Because bases are going to be hit a bit more frequently? Sounds like your alliance was pretty awful if you're disbanding over that.

  • Goorash
    Goorash
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 11
    To the person who didn't think "The Dude Abides" alliance was any good.
          How about we tie you up, so you cant defend yourself, in a bent over position and no pants, and just leave you  out where you can get violated. Repeatedly.  At any time, and all the time. SAME EXACT THING.
  • david.mackenburg
    david.mackenburg
    Greenhorn
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 2
    To Michael B (MyToeInYa) Sector 76 I truly hope your medals have a "CS" on them. A lvl 61 hitting a lvl 40, your awesome! Just remember about the twins.
  • rusty_rea
    rusty_rea
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 16
    i wonder if this is a joke or not. I finally get a base design that is actually working to stop the mega-coiners from getting 100% every time they get close to my base. and now  it isn't allowed to be used..great support  for the people that have all the toys already kixeye.
  • PirateKing-no1
    PirateKing-no1
    Master Tactician
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 2,224
    edited 31 Aug 2013, 3:26AM
    rusty_rea said:
    i wonder if this is a joke or not. I finally get a base design that is actually working to stop the mega-coiners from getting 100% every time they get close to my base. and now  it isn't allowed to be used..great support  for the people that have all the toys already kixeye.
    funny i dont have all the toys the only weapon i lost against lately is siege B dnx iv got few weeks to resolve this but even then siege B dnx dont get a walk in for free no dmg that to me is a good base with underdog baseweaps
  • Stan Wheare
    Stan Wheare
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 177
    my base coords 64917,427 sector 109 .come hit my base take out OP first then get 50 % ,then 100 % all ur who ever want it  lvl 65 easy base 444914 id .i see a dead game now.not worth playing as my right were taken away cus of whinner.that could not use their brains. no halo or javlins in base.come take it out be the hero kix wants you to be.
  • vetehinen
    vetehinen
    Master Tactician
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 2,232
    I have ZERO medals still attacker may get up to 25 from me ... logic ? 

    With my ZERO medals i am at 25 place in sector leaderboard ... range goes from 78 - 5 medals ... what a hoot ! 

    It do not seem to be popular 

    it do not seem to be fair ... i get same medals if i attack lvl 40 or lvl 70 player ... alliance points had lvl limits 

    System is not doing any good to anyone and soon no one will even notice whole medals ... piece of useless stuff 

    Like rogue crews or big rockets ... nice to have but cant remember even to use them .  
  • Stan Wheare
    Stan Wheare
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 177
    my base coords 64917,427 sector 109 .come hit my base take out OP first then get 50 % ,then 100 % all ur who ever want it  lvl 65 easy base 444914 id .i see a dead game now.not worth playing as my right were taken away cus of whinner.that could not use their brains. no halo or javlins in base.come take it out be the hero kix wants you to be.
    with over 36 mill in res there to.
  • Soulvampyr
    Soulvampyr
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 318
    Lolumad said:
    aldor said:
    Would like some clarification about the WH,s.  If you already had just 2 your fine.   If you had 3 and want to go to 2 youre screwed wright ?
    Correct. You can't go lower than 3.


    Additional Information:

    • Damage done during a prep DOES count towards the 50% and 100% destruction Victory Conditions

    • Players will need to retain at least 3 Warehouses.

      • Players will be unable to scrap a Warehouse if they only have 3.

      • Players with less than 3 Warehouses will not be forced to create a third.


    Based on this thread on the new feature (from kixeye), if u had 3 whs at the time the new rule came out, u couldn't go below that---BUT, if u only had say 1 or 2 at the time the new rule went into effect, u DO NOT have to bump it up to the 3 WHs min rule.  That creates a distinct advantage in base layout ability for them since they have less places they have to make big enough to fit WHs on....and b4 anyone says---yeah, but they dont have as much resources to do stuff....we all know how to fill/start ship/refill/cancel/overstuff/start again.....so really not a big deal that they have less resources--except for those attacking them as u have the potential to get less res. on the hit.  Now, this is not a complaint or anything..its just pointing out the way this is working..and the pro/con to not having to build a 3rd whs (or keep 3) like the masses have to do.

    Lolumad said:
    aldor said:
    Would like some clarification about the WH,s.  If you already had just 2 your fine.   If you had 3 and want to go to 2 youre screwed wright ?
    Correct. You can't go lower than 3.

  • thomas.nunamaker.1
    thomas.nunamaker.1
    Potential Threat
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 43
    simple solution end the stupid metals gig!! and lets play as we did before!! 
  • KingOfAllDomains
    KingOfAllDomains
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 1,005
    simple solution end the stupid metals gig!! and lets play as we did before!! 
    Wierd. Either nobody has found my base coords yet, or nothing happened. I dont mind the medals system and im ok with it being added. No drops in my game stablility below super-ultra-fast and stable. I dont know why anyone minds anyway
    KingofAllDomains, on Vega Conflict c;
  • KingOfAllDomains
    KingOfAllDomains
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 1,005
    Goorash said:
    To the person who didn't think "The Dude Abides" alliance was any good.
          How about we tie you up, so you cant defend yourself, in a bent over position and no pants, and just leave you  out where you can get violated. Repeatedly.  At any time, and all the time. SAME EXACT THING.
    Friends. Backup. 
    Question Anwsered.
    KingofAllDomains, on Vega Conflict c;
  • DanC
    DanC
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 23
    i dislike what this medals system update has done to the game and how kixeye is only pandering to the wealthy coiners that i have decided that since my base is flat its going to remain that way from this point on. i never joined an alliance cause i didnt like the idea of someone else having extra incentive and earning extra rewards for hitting someone with a base who didnt stand a chance and now im punished again just for going about my business as a "privateer" ive coined raids to get some nice loot but i dont have the kinda hulls/turrets to defend against the uber coiners and their stuff and now the high levels are running a mock through the lower level 40's cause they are easy pickings for medals, sure the whole thing might fade off after a week or so but the fact we have been forced into playing a certain way is going to last alot longer. and if this is how the game seems to be going how can anyone expect the player base to increase in number?
  • The Frisian
    The Frisian
    Greenhorn
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 2
    I'd like to thank Kixeye for giving a level 71 a reason to flatten a level 46.
    I have seen a lvl 68 flatten a lvl 40. Ridiculous. All because of that new medalsystem. I think the 5 level-rule should be back. To protect the lower levels and to make the game more fair.
    No player should be able to hit players who are more than 5 levels below his or her own level.
    This rule was scraped because kixeye is only listening to the big players (read: big coiners) who were complaining about having not enough targets to hit. Kixeye forgets that the main part of the players are in the middle levels.
  • global 1
    global 1
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 95
    skydiver said:
    skydiver said:
    The bottom line is people who wanted to play the game their way, are now being forced to play kixeye's and higher level players way. I see it all the time n here, crying over square bases and the way certain players play, it's their game let them play it how they want. The player base should be upset about being forced to play a way dictated by kixeye, i remember all the issues people had over the arbiter and other thing placed in by kixeye, but nothing is done about it. I also remember the 1 week no play by a large group of players that got the res changed from all elite to half and half, i think its about time to let kixeye know we want this crap metal issue removed with a no play until removed time.
    Players can still have a square base if they wish, I dont see what the problem is, if there worried about giving aliance points away then dont join an alliance. Since the feature came out you had to kill the OP for points, so up to now these noob cubes have been cheating the system that was intended for alliance feature. 
    Cheating . Cloning fleets is cheating using a square base is STRATEGY at the cost of their DOCKS (and 4 hours of repairs)
    Can u not read properly? When the alliance feature came out it was designed so you get points for killing the OP, now when a player wants to be a part of the alliance system but then designs a noob cube they are cheating/Exploiting the feature. At the end of the day you can still have your noob cubes just means that you OP is no longer safe which, as hitting a persons OP is the main objective, seems like a fix to those that were too lazy to build a proper base and cheated the intended system for alliance points
    My god, cheating is not building a square base its the players decision. I see all you noob criers coming here crying "your cheating me if I can't get your op boo hoo " like your entitled to something what a pile of crap that anyone would cry so much over a base design, get over it move on to another base. God i wish they would enforce the over 21 rule.
    Go cry me a river, If you cant see that having an OP that cant be hit whatsoever should be allowed than you shouldnt be playing this game. The game is about working out how to beat someones base and that includes the OP. As a final thought if it was not cheating then why is is it now illegal??? dumb fools :)
  • PirateKing-no1
    PirateKing-no1
    Master Tactician
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 2,224
    edited 31 Aug 2013, 7:06PM
    it seems a lot of you want a game where the rules go your way you should make your own one then the game is how kix deems it to be and all op should have access to it with the intention of setting up a defence to stop other players taking it that means all with a square base are not in line with the competetion or strategy that kixeye say thats in line with thier design and this is not new they said it over a year ago as far as i know now if to many idiots didnt make a gaurd because they made a square and dont know how to make a decent base you shouldve thought of that when you were laughing at all those people who couldnt get your op now all those guys are laughing at you lot lmao me included your the uumb fools thinking you would get off with coning the ally system for longer enjoy the few weeks or months for some of you while you learn how to actually play the game its not all offence
  • brown james
    brown james
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 124
    cant help but notice that nothing seems to have been mentioned about the rules for base layouts and yet i now cant go to the world map while i have illegal building placement

    thats helpful but my op does overlap the adjacent tiles to the one under its core meaning it is within the 4 tiles from water rule but it still doesnt count!

    a heads up that a base re-design would be needed post update would have been nice!!!

    rusty_rea said:
    i wonder if this is a joke or not. I finally get a base design that is actually working to stop the mega-coiners from getting 100% every time they get close to my base. and now  it isn't allowed to be used..great support  for the people that have all the toys already kixeye.
    funny i dont have all the toys the only weapon i lost against lately is siege B dnx iv got few weeks to resolve this but even then siege B dnx dont get a walk in for free no dmg that to me is a good base with underdog baseweaps

    rusty_rea said:
    i wonder if this is a joke or not. I finally get a base design that is actually working to stop the mega-coiners from getting 100% every time they get close to my base. and now  it isn't allowed to be used..great support  for the people that have all the toys already kixeye.
    funny i dont have all the toys the only weapon i lost against lately is siege B dnx iv got few weeks to resolve this but even then siege B dnx dont get a walk in for free no dmg that to me is a good base with underdog baseweaps

    rusty_rea said:
    i wonder if this is a joke or not. I finally get a base design that is actually working to stop the mega-coiners from getting 100% every time they get close to my base. and now  it isn't allowed to be used..great support  for the people that have all the toys already kixeye.
    funny i dont have all the toys the only weapon i lost against lately is siege B dnx iv got few weeks to resolve this but even then siege B dnx dont get a walk in for free no dmg that to me is a good base with underdog baseweaps

    rusty_rea said:
    i wonder if this is a joke or not. I finally get a base design that is actually working to stop the mega-coiners from getting 100% every time they get close to my base. and now  it isn't allowed to be used..great support  for the people that have all the toys already kixeye.
    funny i dont have all the toys the only weapon i lost against lately is siege B dnx iv got few weeks to resolve this but even then siege B dnx dont get a walk in for free no dmg that to me is a good base with underdog baseweaps

    rusty_rea said:
    i wonder if this is a joke or not. I finally get a base design that is actually working to stop the mega-coiners from getting 100% every time they get close to my base. and now  it isn't allowed to be used..great support  for the people that have all the toys already kixeye.
    funny i dont have all the toys the only weapon i lost against lately is siege B dnx iv got few weeks to resolve this but even then siege B dnx dont get a walk in for free no dmg that to me is a good base with underdog baseweaps

    rusty_rea said:
    i wonder if this is a joke or not. I finally get a base design that is actually working to stop the mega-coiners from getting 100% every time they get close to my base. and now  it isn't allowed to be used..great support  for the people that have all the toys already kixeye.
    funny i dont have all the toys the only weapon i lost against lately is siege B dnx iv got few weeks to resolve this but even then siege B dnx dont get a walk in for free no dmg that to me is a good base with underdog baseweaps
    this is what I see the big coiners are boared and want to hit more bases ,,,, kixeye does not want you to be able to defend your op that is why you cannot play with the base centered ok do not defend it I have set mine on the top left side of the base anyone can hit it and wh seting on the right side a lvl 10 can hit them unprotected and they will stay that way I coin some but not anymore I am going back to farmtown where I was 4 years ago and enjoying the game spend my few coins there have fun kix from what I hear LOTS,,I MEAN LOTS ARE going to other games alliances that are good  are folding a lot of insector hitters are leaving ,,,,,,looks like total with drawel tome BATTLE PIRATES  looks like on the way out and no name change will help ...if you have 1 mil players and 100,000 are big coiners and the rest are small coiners the law says that you going to loose your **** if the little ones go cause half of the big ones are also ,,,HACHMAN SAID IT 307 COME GET THE MEDALS i AM DONE BASE IS DEAD

  • PirateKing-no1
    PirateKing-no1
    Master Tactician
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 2,224
    haha because some people coined is no excuse i had no decent gaurds and i stopped a lot of attacks coin will help do things quicker but really doesnt give people that much of an advantage 
  • Zaharkan
    Zaharkan
    Incursion Leader
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 1,067
    vetehinen said:
    I have ZERO medals still attacker may get up to 25 from me ... logic ? 

    With my ZERO medals i am at 25 place in sector leaderboard ... range goes from 78 - 5 medals ... what a hoot ! 

    It do not seem to be popular 

    it do not seem to be fair ... i get same medals if i attack lvl 40 or lvl 70 player ... alliance points had lvl limits 

    System is not doing any good to anyone and soon no one will even notice whole medals ... piece of useless stuff 

    Like rogue crews or big rockets ... nice to have but cant remember even to use them .  

    You are only worth 25 to attackers that also have 0 points. To most folks who have been hitting bases you may be worth as little as 1 point to them.
    Sweet Sweet Lemonade coming to a base near you
    image
    Drac Base #2 - Done Solo 
  • Toy Jun Kie
    Toy Jun Kie
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 1,259
    skydiver said:
    skydiver said:
    The bottom line is people who wanted to play the game their way, are now being forced to play kixeye's and higher level players way. I see it all the time n here, crying over square bases and the way certain players play, it's their game let them play it how they want. The player base should be upset about being forced to play a way dictated by kixeye, i remember all the issues people had over the arbiter and other thing placed in by kixeye, but nothing is done about it. I also remember the 1 week no play by a large group of players that got the res changed from all elite to half and half, i think its about time to let kixeye know we want this crap metal issue removed with a no play until removed time.
    Players can still have a square base if they wish, I dont see what the problem is, if there worried about giving aliance points away then dont join an alliance. Since the feature came out you had to kill the OP for points, so up to now these noob cubes have been cheating the system that was intended for alliance feature. 
    Cheating . Cloning fleets is cheating using a square base is STRATEGY at the cost of their DOCKS (and 4 hours of repairs)
    Can u not read properly? When the alliance feature came out it was designed so you get points for killing the OP, now when a player wants to be a part of the alliance system but then designs a noob cube they are cheating/Exploiting the feature. At the end of the day you can still have your noob cubes just means that you OP is no longer safe which, as hitting a persons OP is the main objective, seems like a fix to those that were too lazy to build a proper base and cheated the intended system for alliance points
    My god, cheating is not building a square base its the players decision. I see all you noob criers coming here crying "your cheating me if I can't get your op boo hoo " like your entitled to something what a pile of crap that anyone would cry so much over a base design, get over it move on to another base. God i wish they would enforce the over 21 rule.
    Go cry me a river, If you cant see that having an OP that cant be hit whatsoever should be allowed than you shouldnt be playing this game. The game is about working out how to beat someones base and that includes the OP. As a final thought if it was not cheating then why is is it now illegal??? dumb fools :)
    Because the COINERS went WHINING to KIXEYE about it and that's the only people they care about . Not the everyday players that don't have $$$$$$$$$ to pi$$ away on a broken game .
  • Doug Skipps
    Doug Skipps
    Potential Threat
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 38
    I made myself a box base and it kept plenty of fleets out. And for that Kixeye and its infinite wisdom has gone and taken that ability away. Is it because I found a way to stay safe or because they feel like they are getting cheated? I don't know, but either way I think it's a crock of crap that they can't let me build something that works for me and not for them. It is things like this that make people want to walk away fro the game. Give me one real good reason why I can't have my box and I'll stop my rant....but if your reason sucks then I shall continue.
  • Modest Elitist
    Modest Elitist
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 1,928
    I made myself a box base and it kept plenty of fleets out. And for that Kixeye and its infinite wisdom has gone and taken that ability away. Is it because I found a way to stay safe or because they feel like they are getting cheated? I don't know, but either way I think it's a crock of crap that they can't let me build something that works for me and not for them. It is things like this that make people want to walk away fro the game. Give me one real good reason why I can't have my box and I'll stop my rant....but if your reason sucks then I shall continue.
    First of all an op in middle base basically exploits the alliance system and second of all KIXEYE is a private company/business so they make the rules not you, you're only allowed on here because you agreed to their rules. And also to add to the fact that if you have a square base you're just begging to be farmed and when you complain about getting farmed don't go crying to KIXEYE, remember you chose to have a square base.
    Level:100
    Played Originally in Nov 2011.
  • Max Last
    Max Last
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 3,254
    They screwed over bubble bandits who rely on a buddy re-tapping them with a gunboat with this update too.  And that's been around just as long and was just as 'valid' as square base cheese monkeying.
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • Modest Elitist
    Modest Elitist
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 1,928
    Max Last said:
    They screwed over bubble bandits who rely on a buddy re-tapping them with a gunboat with this update too.  And that's been around just as long and was just as 'valid' as square base cheese monkeying.
    yeah that's one thing I don't like about the update, people can hit your base that's 50% damaged and not bubble you so they basically get a free pass into your base.
    Nice job, KIXEYE, or should I say, TROLLEYE.(refer to picture below)
    Level:100
    Played Originally in Nov 2011.
  • Max Last
    Max Last
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 3,254
    Max Last said:
    They screwed over bubble bandits who rely on a buddy re-tapping them with a gunboat with this update too.  And that's been around just as long and was just as 'valid' as square base cheese monkeying.
    yeah that's one thing I don't like about the update, people can hit your base that's 50% damaged and not bubble you so they basically get a free pass into your base.
    Nice job, KIXEYE, or should I say, TROLLEYE.(refer to picture below)
    Yeah, I'm annoyed because I used to like taunting people into losing another fleet after they died at 30%, but not sure I want to let them keep trying till they make it past 50%.  On the other hand, I REALLY hated bubble bandits.  So...I can live with it.
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • John Svelnys
    John Svelnys
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 309
    edited 31 Aug 2013, 11:29PM
    I do not use a square base. But I will defend their legality. 25 months ago I joined Battle Pirates. KIXEYE gave me a square base and said "Be a pirate and have fun." Now Battle Pirates own 1st base design is illegal, well goes to show how a few cry babies can get things done with kixeye. I have no problem with players playing the game the way they choose. Its kinda the AMERICAN WAY! I don't care for the Medals at all. The following attachmrent a lvl 68 lost his lvl 40 MCX fleet on my lvl 73 base at exactly the 50% mark, did he deserve anything?  http://imgur.com/USaje0f  well kixeye thinks it promotes PvP.  I been in steady wars since start of alliances. I DO NOT NEED KIXEYE HELP IN FINDING A FIGHT! My battle log is full of the best players and alliances in the game. And if that is not enough, any chat room there is always targets as people don't let people play their own game. Always a big pie hole thinks everyone should play their way!
  • Just-For-Fun
    Just-For-Fun
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 623
    I have one question for Kixeye on  this changes with the bases.

    Why did you make and implement the rule with buildings having to be 4 tiles of water and not grandfather in current players with that design?

    You did grandfather in people with only 2 warehouses as not to have a 3rd.

    I bet the answers are economics most of your big coin big players are that way so you had to make them happy but most square base are not so who cares.

    I have never had a square base never cared for them but I believe in fairness for all players.  
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