Have you lost your mind. ? new special breakdown.

  • PirateKing-no1
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    oh as for them not hitting fleets who says you cant add couple new **** morts on a trton with siege b bye bye fleets too lmao prob solved
  • JoKe
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    edited 21 Aug 2013, 4:32AM
    John1975 said:
    I will do most I can wife due to have baby # 4 any day now may be first raid I miss but if I miss it it will be so worth it. good luck to all that can do it does look like some good stuff to get. I still say it safe bet level 5 platforms are just around the corner which will make new stuff about same as it was before it came out. we got level 5 walls you know platforms are on the way. Dont go crazy if you get stuff do I have been this week and hit all you can and enjoy it. If you on the receiving end of the OP hits bank and hide res get ready for level 5 platforms and know soon it wont be a problem. 

    Judging by the bigger and better stuff, wont level 6 turrets be like 2x times the repairs? 12 hr repairs, so what you mean is bubble times well be 2x soon too? I think this game is progressing to much to fast on a serious note. Surely I can see what Liam is trying to say, its like dumping two raging rivers at the same time on a **** that can only hold half the weight, it breaks; Pandora's box is opened and the game is just one giant mess. No longer resembling a game at all, just a mosh pit of no rules no parameters and just plane chaos to any who try to understand it. Strategy wont exist. Sad days ahead imao.
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  • beel78
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    This is just the next step in the teetering tower of precarious balance kixeye has been building for a year. The problem with this one-upsmanship is that eventually you one up yourself with a nuke and blow your own self up.

    Kixeye will do this next: after giving the heavy coiners about a week or two to run rampant on everyones bases with this special they will release layered walls, Level 5 turrets and Level 6 OP with 2 more turrets. Possibly more land too. Once again the "middle" players will get the splintery shaft in their holes and many a dead base will be found.

    Simple solution: vote with your coins. Make yourself heard on the forums.

    I trust Liams judgement on this and I know that in my current base setup a guardian in place of my dread will make my base a complete ****, and people without top fleets and this special on them need not apply.

    Oh, but, according to mods, feel free to not play this raid, you dont NEED to raid to stay competitive ROFLMAO
    i thought that was hilarious.  lets see that same MOD get into any good base without a modern fleet or defend his base with an old fleet.  Seriously.  Some of them work hard but others really need to take foot out of mouth and just close their yap.  I am happy, I do not have to scrap my blitz DNX fleet anymore...... I think 4 of them will be awesome.  :D

  • Michigan Marauder
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    I have faith Kixeye knows what they are doing and in the end things will work out
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  • Tw_t_Waffle
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    The drac bombard is probably around the corner. However you mega coiners (cough liam cough cough) only encouraged them to make changes like this at this speed.   They know your ego demands that you pay out the **** to maintain your status.

    Hate all you want you're just wasting your time
  • Rebmes
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    This makes perfect sense - we have been getting more and more tools to defend our bases with recently, and not much to attack with - until recently.

    Game would be really lame if you could make an impenetrable base - which was close to a reality lately.
  • Mr. Blizzard
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    edited 21 Aug 2013, 4:37AM
    I'm sorry but I want to know who the **** threw common sense out the window. Kixeye is becoming more like MTV less music (common sense) and more stuff about 16 years getting pregnant (idiotic overpower ****). I mean really it's going to be a coin fest for anyone who doesn't have level 5 walls, that is even if they hold up to the new specials. These new specials basically put any base hitting hull in the game on STEROIDS. 



    Base hitting wise these things are overpower, but what about the use of them in the draconian bases....hmm?
  • Carl B
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    No matter I will see how it goes. Gets too stupid there are other games. I am on the edge with this one anyways. Just hard to leave the friends I have made.
  • orcaone
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    Mike Wood said:
    I said the same thing when i saw the stats on that special.....WTF is Kixeye thinking?? first they throw out 2 new morts basically for free (they should have been raid prizes) that are insane on their own....and now we have a new special in the upcoming raid that makes them even worse. add that to the fact that this new special can be used on any boat with any weapon.....someone at Kixeye really has their head up their arse.  Instead of giving us different tools to make the game better, you've given us a sledge hammer to kill a fly. and of course there are NO defenses at all that can even come close to neutralizing any of this new stuff. Now if Kixeye was to come out with some new Drac anti weapon that actually worked to counter the new overpowered morts and this insane new special...MAYBE. but of course thats not gonna happen.  Giving out insanely overpowered weapons and specials like this is a stupid move Kixeye. Just plain "someone ate too many crayons" stupid. This is going to cost you players leaving the game, i can guarantee that. 
    When a company is making good money and the game is well balanced, they keep it like that and ride the wave.  They don't have that much money in the bank as their CEO claims.

    So they throw things out of whack to "momentarily stir up" some income.  I don't fall for these schemes.
  • Azrakhul
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    orcaone said:
    Mike Wood said:
    I said the same thing when i saw the stats on that special.....WTF is Kixeye thinking?? first they throw out 2 new morts basically for free (they should have been raid prizes) that are insane on their own....and now we have a new special in the upcoming raid that makes them even worse. add that to the fact that this new special can be used on any boat with any weapon.....someone at Kixeye really has their head up their arse.  Instead of giving us different tools to make the game better, you've given us a sledge hammer to kill a fly. and of course there are NO defenses at all that can even come close to neutralizing any of this new stuff. Now if Kixeye was to come out with some new Drac anti weapon that actually worked to counter the new overpowered morts and this insane new special...MAYBE. but of course thats not gonna happen.  Giving out insanely overpowered weapons and specials like this is a stupid move Kixeye. Just plain "someone ate too many crayons" stupid. This is going to cost you players leaving the game, i can guarantee that. 
    When a company is making good money and the game is well balanced, they keep it like that and ride the wave.  They don't have that much money in the bank as their CEO claims.

    So they throw things out of whack to "momentarily stir up" some income.  I don't fall for these schemes.
    When was the game ever balanced?
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  • Smokin' Joe
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    well its been 8 months since i have posted here I know many of you MISSED ME :)  i have said it once I have said it 1000 times... quit ya **** crying ... use ya brain and a little skill spend some $$$ on the raid and ya base will be just as hard to crack as ever... its as simple as that...  THERE IS STILL NO I WIN BUTTON IN THIS GAME, the ones that feel that way hate change and dont want to move forward... Now with that I will big you all farewell.  I figured I will only pop my head up every few months are so or when I see a thread like this that is POINTLESS and a pure waste of forum space... CYA on the battlefield peeps ... Im quite again!
  • bigbang-993
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    Liam99 not to insult you or anything i know the new special is overpowered but its not the end of the world. We all could increase our building damage by the use of a arbiter/hurricane before this item got released. 

    We have had the siege scanner module out for a long time and it increases all building damage done by any weapon type. i know not everyone runs around with arbiters/hurricanes with this in their attacking fleet but it adds another branch to the strategy to the game.

    Just a thought 
    :-B
  • FAT BASTARD
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    this is an opening for them to put armour slots on turrets is all i can see and untill then everyone will be farmed

  • Azrakhul
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    Liam99 not to insult you or anything i know the new special is overpowered but its not the end of the world. We all could increase our building damage by the use of a arbiter/hurricane before this item got released. 

    We have had the siege scanner module out for a long time and it increases all building damage done by any weapon type. i know not everyone runs around with arbiters/hurricanes with this in their attacking fleet but it adds another branch to the strategy to the game.

    Just a thought 
    :-B
    A difference with sacrificing and assualt ship for an arbiter with Siege Scanner. Was already building a Siege Scanner Hurricane with 4 Shock Q Tritons (reffitting) now this special is just going to make my Tritons even crazier now.
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  • PirateKing-no1
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    Liam99 not to insult you or anything i know the new special is overpowered but its not the end of the world. We all could increase our building damage by the use of a arbiter/hurricane before this item got released. 

    We have had the siege scanner module out for a long time and it increases all building damage done by any weapon type. i know not everyone runs around with arbiters/hurricanes with this in their attacking fleet but it adds another branch to the strategy to the game.

    Just a thought 
    :-B
    grim not to insult you think that would get close enough to work only applies if its in range long enough most arbs dont get close enough to hit crap and iv they do they wont last long against javs and or halos and gaurd fleet would be toast not effective for basing in reallity this special is taking about adding 75% dmg to weapons any weapon all someone needs to do is take a weap off or maybe 2 for hitting ships and its still got about 50% increase in dmg it will sail through a base
  • John1975
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    JoKe said:
    John1975 said:
    I will do most I can wife due to have baby # 4 any day now may be first raid I miss but if I miss it it will be so worth it. good luck to all that can do it does look like some good stuff to get. I still say it safe bet level 5 platforms are just around the corner which will make new stuff about same as it was before it came out. we got level 5 walls you know platforms are on the way. Dont go crazy if you get stuff do I have been this week and hit all you can and enjoy it. If you on the receiving end of the OP hits bank and hide res get ready for level 5 platforms and know soon it wont be a problem. 

    Judging by the bigger and better stuff, wont level 6 turrets be like 2x times the repairs? 12 hr repairs, so what you mean is bubble times well be 2x soon too? I think this game is progressing to much to fast on a serious note. Surely I can see what Liam is trying to say, its like dumping two raging rivers at the same time on a **** that can only hold half the weight, it breaks; Pandora's box is opened and the game is just one giant mess. No longer resembling a game at all, just a mosh pit of no rules no parameters and just plane chaos to any who try to understand it. Strategy wont exist. Sad days ahead imao.
    my 2 ship 10 seige B  DNX fleet is I think 32K damage per volly  A good base with say 4 walls between and aa3 on cerbs it will kill 2 turrets at one time with 2 volly. If there is a BB/HS it take 3/4 volly. I dont have time right now to figure approx armor increase per platform level 1-2-3-4 to make guess on level 5 platforms I would think it would be 15-20K armor then if it has 33% splash or exp res like level 5 walls (I have not wasted tiem on level 5 walls yet) add AA3 to that I think that make my fleet back down to being same as hitting with 10 seige s taking  Depending on level 5 platforms I do think that by itself will nerf down these new morts big time. Could be wrong if someone has time they need to see the approx % armor increase between level 1,2,3 platforms and can prob make good guess on what level 5 would be.  Level 5 has to be coming as why give walls and  not match platforms to that

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  • Max Last
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    It just doesn't seem that horrible compared to other specials the more I think about it.  +75% damage to buildings, compared to +75% ballistic reload=+75% DPS plus extra range to both buildings and ships, or +33% missile damage to both ships and buildings, or +170% rocket reload equalling +170% dps to both buildings and ships.  I suppose I'll have to wait and see if I'm proved wrong.
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • bigbang-993
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    edited 21 Aug 2013, 5:10AM
    Liam99 not to insult you or anything i know the new special is overpowered but its not the end of the world. We all could increase our building damage by the use of a arbiter/hurricane before this item got released. 

    We have had the siege scanner module out for a long time and it increases all building damage done by any weapon type. i know not everyone runs around with arbiters/hurricanes with this in their attacking fleet but it adds another branch to the strategy to the game.

    Just a thought 
    :-B
    grim not to insult you think that would get close enough to work only applies if its in range long enough most arbs dont get close enough to hit crap and iv they do they wont last long against javs and or halos and gaurd fleet would be toast not effective for basing in reallity this special is taking about adding 75% dmg to weapons any weapon all someone needs to do is take a weap off or maybe 2 for hitting ships and its still got about 50% increase in dmg it will sail through a base
    i know what it means but you could make a fleet of 2/3 DNX with this it has high armor and decent resistance the tactical module has a range of 80 and the morts have a range of 84 so they dont really need to worry about getting too close to turrets 

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  • USMC_Sergeant_E5
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    DNX with shock Q's 30 of them plus the new special will be quite the powerful mort creep fleet once again.
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  • PirateKing-no1
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    why waste that for the arb when i could use same weight for another dnx with about 20+k dmg then add the new special more effective 
  • SeaShocknAwe
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    I would say this will go through with a POSSIBLE slight nerfing of prizes....What these prizes tell me is that there WILL be level 5+ defensive platforms with 2 specials coming very soon. I always thought there would be a tipping point in the game, and it is here, rt now...The hamster wheel is running too fast folks... Its obvious that Kix went the way of greed... I really thought Kix would go about it smartly by offering the defensive upgrades first, thus enabling everyone to be "ready" for the next wave of weapon upgrades. Thus not causing what were looking at, a LOT of smoking bases until new counter-toys are offered. They think that we will coin our repairs until said weapons arrive, GOOD LUCK ON THAT GAMBLE KIX !!! But again, why change your ways now Kix ? They dont want to kill the game because it is a cash cow the funds ALL the other lame projects, like VEGA, that they create or need to upgrade.  Apparently Kix thinks that putting the cart ahead of the horse is a smarter way to conduct business, what they might get in return IS the head of the horse they road in on....
  • Flying Dutchman 2
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    It's not only you can break all bases Liam, but now all noob with no brain and just a cc can walk in any base within a week after the raid with 5 of the new ships as guard. Bye bye Game.
    Time to quit. I won't coin anymore.
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  • bigbang-993
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    why waste that for the arb when i could use same weight for another dnx with about 20+k dmg then add the new special more effective 
    im not saying waste it, I'm just pointing out that the new special isn't the end of the world as players could increase their building damage anyway if not as drastic as the +75%. Just helps taking a step back and re-evaluate it, i know how daunting it looks right away 
  • The_Hand_of_Thrawn
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    Karma111 said:
    Liam- You are assuming that on a 3 special slot hull someone would either A. Have the weight for this special or B. Give up either Shells 3 or Alloy 3. Use your brain. The only hull this special will work on is Siege rocket Threshers. If you threw this on a DNX hull you would be forced to have to use all medium armor plates to compensate for the weight and shells 2 instead of 3. 
    your wrong buddy i can already see the builds. i worked them all out before this post. but im not going to post them. a lot of my fleets run gs3 but with this type of building dmaage they would no longer need it, it would be a very easy switch in specials.
    my first thought was to dump GS3 on my dreads.....this will free up room.  That Shock Q siege B combo is gonna rock now!
    this is an opening for them to put armour slots on turrets is all i can see and untill then everyone will be farmed

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    I've said already that Kixeye will be releasing OP6 soon, they will have to now.  2 more turrets and 2-4 land tiles and possibly another wh (good or bad is a discussion for another thread).  Armor slots on turrets would be awesome.  Base defense guards with the new **** mort will be great.  Combustion sys paired with range will be devastating, even to those speedy threshers.  


    Kixeye really needs to slow it down, fix the things that are wrong with the game, and give everyone who plays it a chance to catch up.  I stopped coining, because it didn't even come close to getting me up to speed.  I still have, at the current time, a backlog of 479 days of ship builds.   That is 22,922 coins.  Lets make this game more interesting and start giving gold as a prize in these raids.  I have everything in this game (except Siege B morts).  I would gladly do this raid 2 or 3 times for some coins.  I would sit at the top of the leaderboards, for coin rewards.  I would go head to head with the best players in the game, for coins.  Monthly events should be fun, not mandatory (if you don't think they are mandatory, i got a bridge i'd like to sell ya).  Weekly missions are pretty much the same status now too.  If you choose not to get to tier 3 in those, you are killing your odds of getting the prizes you eventually want.  


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  • PirateKing-no1
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    edited 21 Aug 2013, 5:23AM
    I would say this will go through with a POSSIBLE slight nerfing of prizes....What these prizes tell me is that there WILL be level 5+ defensive platforms with 2 specials coming very soon. I always thought there would be a tipping point in the game, and it is here, rt now...The hamster wheel is running too fast folks... Its obvious that Kix went the way of greed... I really thought Kix would go about it smartly by offering the defensive upgrades first, thus enabling everyone to be "ready" for the next wave of weapon upgrades. Thus not causing what were looking at, a LOT of smoking bases until new counter-toys are offered. They think that we will coin our repairs until said weapons arrive, GOOD LUCK ON THAT GAMBLE KIX !!! But again, why change your ways now Kix ? They dont want to kill the game because it is a cash cow the funds ALL the other lame projects, like VEGA, that they create or need to upgrade.  Apparently Kix thinks that putting the cart ahead of the horse is a smarter way to conduct business, what they might get in return IS the head of the horse they road in on....
    lmao why are people so sure that theres gonna upgrades this doesnt tell me anything and to adjust op and turrets they have to adjust bubbles and repair time cmon to **** repairs times are too long as it is sometimes we cant hit for 24 hours because of fk ups and repairs not starting then theres the fact not everyone can coin as kix expects and im serious when im saying i will coin less if it costs me more than it does already iv had enough of draining more and more money out of me coining fleets fair enough coining docks fair enough but this is getting to crazy for me its gonna be hit one person bubble drops your most likely getting 100% regardless of defences if this happens i will most likely be done and i will miss my friends on this game but im cutting my losses and kix can find what i call another mug
  • darkid792
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    well this is the end of battle pirates with the triton plus this new special and all ill probly hear is what about weight or some other thing or special who cares about that. put alloy and that and enough resistance armor and our bases are golf courses everytime the bubble drops. now no one that hits 40 will stand a chance were all screwed 40 and up is officially gonna be the worst levels to be at because of this. all you need is a dread x with the alloy that new special and some mortars even with a 2 ship fleet hell even 1 could probly take half a base let alone a whole dang fleet. this will screw alot of stuff up and will make base defense not worth a **** anymore thanks kixeye youve officially broke your fricken game.
  • Soulvampyr
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    hell I see this going on my Siege missile triton fleet....75% bonus and then this seige scanner 3 bonus....now can u imagine being able to use a siege scanner 3 module on a aribit or hurricane too..lol...thats alot of bonus building dmg.   As it is I have EW 3 on my siege F tritons---and thats 12% added weight...so im sure I Can find a way to fit the 5% more in weapons weight

  • Soulvampyr
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    and remember....they did nerf the halo 20 minutes after they started the raid it 1st came out in...so its possible this will happen again

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