How to deal with Rancor Battleships? «12» Go

Andrey_Z13

I am a level 20, my best ship so far is the Longbow destroyer.
I am able to hit level 17 Fleets easily, and I did a 20 with some losses.
After that it becomes a problem because of Rancor Battleships, I just have no way of avoiding their fire as they turn too fast and they cover a wide area.

Achi11es

Last night i would have told you to use Harriers or Talons but today is another story. Last night i finally figured out how to do up to a 27 (with some damage) and today i can't do them anymore.

It seems to me like they increased the range (or something) on the rancor's. I have strafe 2 on my talons and i still can't get out of the way anymore.

Andrey_Z13

You are right, now even level 15 fleets have increased range and speed, so you can't do with just corvettes anymore.
It seems Kixeye does not want to let people play for free, if you want to play you have to coin at least a bit. They don't want any skilled players anymore who figure out how to progress without spending money. They will do anything to make the game more difficult now. Why the hell should AI fleets get an unfair advantage?
And they are not doing it just to Vega, they are doing same in all other games it seems.

Bird1sTheWord

Andrey_Z13 said:

I am a level 20, my best ship so far is the Longbow destroyer.
I am able to hit level 17 Fleets easily, and I did a 20 with some losses.
After that it becomes a problem because of Rancor Battleships, I just have no way of avoiding their fire as they turn too fast and they cover a wide area.

Add a high level of starfe (level 4 or 5, 3 might work) And you can escape their turning speeds

Achi11es

Andrey_Z13 said:

You are right, now even level 15 fleets have increased range and speed, so you can't do with just corvettes anymore.
It seems Kixeye does not want to let people play for free, if you want to play you have to coin at least a bit. They don't want any skilled players anymore who figure out how to progress without spending money. They will do anything to make the game more difficult now. Why the hell should AI fleets get an unfair advantage?
And they are not doing it just to Vega, they are doing same in all other games it seems.

It took my talons dying twice in a 27 before i figured it out that they had increased the range of weapons. So i figured it was time to going back to doing 15's and 17's but imagine my surprise when i realized even the low level ones had their range increased also.

At this point its just beyond stupid! How the hell are you suppose to get any resources. I don't see any new players sticking around to play for long after they realize its gonna take them like 5 fleets just to open a level 15 cargo.

Andrey_Z13

Yeah, and its just really stupid they give AI fleets some unfair bonus that you can't get. Its just some fancy upgrade that only AI gets now lol. At least it would be fair if you could eventually get it to make it equal, but you can't have that bonus AI ships have.
And all that just for the sake to make the game harder for you, well done Kixeye, you really know how to ruin games that barely got released.

nerys

just proves they are greedy. the POINT of this type of game is strategy. there is no strategy now. really sucks. figuring out strategy is kind of the point after all.

now all the ships I spent my resources building are useless. thanks kixeye. your just lovely.

the way to fight the rancors (which is probably impossible now) is to use long bows and harriers. the long bows shoot at the rancors the harrier runs closer and KEEPS the rancor occupied targeting IT as you scoot out of its weapons fire while your ignored further out longbows pound it. (hint. kixeye. this is called strategy this is how strategy actually works)

HAWKEYES33

Killing those are still possible with talons. i killed 2 lvl 30 cargo's today  but i can say it is hell. I might need to try out those 27s.

Xi Gua

Add long range weapons (mass drivers, 5000m) to talons, add strafe thrusters, fly sideways, profit.

tipstir

That destroyer your using in time you'll learn to ditch them for next gen models. Got to use the best space fleets this game has to offer otherwise the other base will destroy your fleets. Remember this quote; armor and shields are your best friend end quote!  Choose wisely!

Krazie243

Battleships are easily defeated by Mass Drivers and run/strafing

There is no bonus to AI that does not exist for players. ALL weapons fire will travel past the target range so you can't just run like a **** when something shoots at you. You actually have to dodge now. So either man up with a shield and high DPS or dodge or learn not to let them even shoot at you.

captianjoe

use a harrier out front and to the side of the longbows to attract the fire.  i line up my 5 longbows and then straffe the harrier to 1 side and slightly ahead of lbs to draw the fire and let the lbs do their work. my harrier is setup with the best armor and explosive sheilds i can fit and only the light weapons. when you do this you can avoid a lot of the damage by moving the harrier around.  i can do 23s with out damage.

Vindicator3

I'd have to disagree with some of you...
First I'd like to state I'm no coiner. That being said..
Why shouldn't vega have different technologies available than us? After all, it's a different nation or race or whatever.
All of us players have to pull off the job with the same tools, so it really isn't unfair at all.

These differences just force you to be inventive.
If you can't crack open a lvl15 because you're receiving too much damage, then stick with lvl7 or lvl5 if you must.
We're all facing the same difficulties, so deal with it.

Achi11es

Some of you just don't get it! 

Some of you are throwing out ship builds that can take higher level cargo. What you don't get is how the hell are low level players suppose to get the resources to upgrade and research so they can get the things needed for that ship build!

Also what some of you don't get. It's not that we can't take out low level cargo for resources. The thing is, who the fck has hours and hours to play the game to get ALL the resources needed!

HAWKEYES33

Andrey_Z13 said:

I am a level 20, my best ship so far is the Longbow destroyer.
I am able to hit level 17 Fleets easily, and I did a 20 with some losses.
After that it becomes a problem because of Rancor Battleships, I just have no way of avoiding their fire as they turn too fast and they cover a wide area.

Use harriers with plasma batteries if you have them. If you dont got batteries use railgun. so basically you strafe in to the rancor's blind spot, when you fire off 2 shots strafe out again. another way is to use genesis with the same build.

Vindicator3

Achi11es said:

Some of you just don't get it! 

Some of you are throwing out ship builds that can take higher level cargo. What you don't get is how the hell are low level players suppose to get the resources to upgrade and research so they can get the things needed for that ship build!

Also what some of you don't get. It's not that we can't take out low level cargo for resources. The thing is, who the fck has hours and hours to play the game to get ALL the resources needed!

I just believe we all face the same problems. Some players just happen to have more time on their hands as others. It's like that in all online games. No offense, but some people have nothing else to do than play games all day long. While others have to deal with their job, family and all sorts of stuff. You simply can't expect to progress in the same way as someone who's online virtually 24/7 ...

TheHolyAsdf

A ship with Shockwave III can tank very well. Fly up to Rancor's while other ships sit back and do damage. 

Cyrus Leung

Curtis Smale said:

Battleships are easily defeated by Mass Drivers and run/strafing

There is no bonus to AI that does not exist for players. ALL weapons fire will travel past the target range so you can't just run like a **** when something shoots at you. You actually have to dodge now. So either man up with a shield and high DPS or dodge or learn not to let them even shoot at you.

The "bonus to AI that does not exist for players" means the range bonus that the VEGA battleships get. The VEGA battleships have a range bonus of about 150% rather than the normal 125%.

Krazie243

You'll have to understand that the post you quoted occurred before the recent update.

As for your assertion that Battleships get 150% in Vegas.... I can't seem to find anywhere that suggest that to be true. That said, I won't immediately dispute you since I was having trouble firing MDs from an Exo at a Rancor with PBs today...

Dayspring329

You need to blitz the rancors and battleships what ever the lvl. You need one or two ships with beams and shock shields. Get in as fast as you can and nuke them. If you are using exos , talons or hawks. Put your fastest strafe engine in them and strafe once in firing range. This will reduce damage taken.

Andrey_Z13

Ok I just reached a point where I cannot progress without getting anti-matter.
I am level 28, whats the best way to get anti-matter for me?

Spaskiba

I was a bit of a noob back then, if you do it right you can do a 20 without loses

 (with harriers)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHpXdGMLnrs

Krazie243

@Andrey: Please don't necro bump, especially off topic.

Andrey_Z13

Ok I just reached a point where I cannot progress without getting anti-matter.
I am level 28, whats the best way to get anti-matter for me?

Curtis Smale said:

@Andrey: Please don't necro bump, especially off topic.

You are right sorry lol, I like the term necro bump though lmao

Spaskiba

I'm always full on anti matter, I steal it from nearby bases on my planet or solar system

Krazie243

K guys, start a thread relating to the topic. You're not talking about Rancors here...

Spaskiba

Since when you became the forum police?

stazz

Its doable with harriers that have spec III shield or higher.

Either have one run point while the rest are about 3-4 ship length behind it, cut off the rancor at a perpendicular angle.  Have the one running point turn the rancor so the rest are shooting at this rear.

Or

Have them all grp together in standard spread, cut it off at a perpendicular angle go in and strafe.  More losses but less effort.

The.Reaper

antimatter is easier than resources use talons and exoduis for auto 23-25 antimatter with half damage 

Krazie243

Spaskiba said:

Since when you became the forum police?

I was trying to be nice, but fine - post flagged as off topic. Mods will notice and close the thread. Have a nice day.

AlkalineAloeVeraDude

Level 20 Cargo's have 1 Rancor. With a fleet of Shock2 Harriers, you should be able to run in with 1x Plasma Battery (If you have) or 2x Beam2 or 1 Beam 2 and 1 Beam3 and try and quickly get in front it doesn't matter if it catches yu as long as you stay in range but strafe it you shouldn't take too much damage if you lose a few harriers I do it alot. Or you might as well use Guass Gun Level 1 Longbows with Magnets and stay back. Tehe.