Get this fleet and you can start popping Vega 30-37 with ease...

abbandon.smith.9
abbandon.smith.9
Minor Nuisance
Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 142
edited 18 Jun 2013, 5:22AM
This is a good starting fleet for being able to crack open vega 30-37's...

x5 Talon w/ x2 Plasma Torp1, Strafe3 and shield doesnt matter but I would suggest spectre as laser is way more dangerous than explosive.

Can't have x6 until you have Shipbay7... 

The only thing you have to do to make x5 talon work is run away a little bit at the beginning to space out ships.   35-37 may sound scary but they are really easier than 30-33!!   The 35 has like 2 Frigates and 1 cruiser.   If you run away the cruisher should fall behind the frigates and you will mow him down as you strafe away from frigates.   The 37 has 1 frigate and 2 cruiser.  Again just run away at beginning and then turn and strafe and you will kill the first cruiser by shooting at the frigate most likely.  If the second cruiser gets within your fire arcs and the frigate is still alive try to drag the frigate in front of the cruiser to slow it down by strafing at angles or use right click to primary the cruiser.   (be careful I think right clicking on a ship makes your fleet stop and you will get hammered by Frigate)

35's = 1 mil res
37's = 1.5 mil res.    

You can start getting that with Shipbay6 and Talons.   More Talon just make it much easier.   But anyways If your a newb I encourage you to push yourself and try to do this.   I think you will find it much easier than it seems.   Just remember to get some distance at the beginning of the fights with vega to spread them out.... 
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Im sure others will get on here and tell you to use **** thrusters and I don't doubt that they work,   but this is how I do it.   I only run once.
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  • abbandon.smith.9
    abbandon.smith.9
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    Pay Attention!!
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    This should help you kill them as a newb/with weak fleet.   Some enemy cargo are lopsided like a 37 for example.   This makes how you approach the fleet before battle slightly more important.   I approached this 37 from the LEFT.  Every time you approach from the left side there will be a fat cruiser in the back center and bottom.    If you approach a 37 from the RIGHT then the fleet will be flipped around and the fat cruisers would be in the back center and TOP.   Pay attention to which side you attack from and know which way the fat cruisers will be coming from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(top/bottom)

    As you run away to get some distance and space out ships the fat cruiser in the back center will get trapped by the slow battlecruisers.  The other one that shows up on top or bottom will be your #1 priority.   What you want to do is put the center of YOUR formaton/line into line with that free fat cruiser.    Now while your lining up with the fat cruiser the frigate will be racing past everything and getting in front.   If you line up correctly(with the fat cruiser) hopefully the frigate will get in front of the fat cruiser and while you are shooting at it the fat cruiser will get hit also.

    If you do the above you should be able to kill the frigate and the first fat cruiser at about the same time.   Then the only thing left to do is kill the last fat cruiser which should be easy because he shouldnt even be in your fire arcs yet.(DO NOT strafe towards him lol).   After that you got 3 battleships who wont give you a bit of trouble.    

    And sorry  35 = 1 mil,  37 = 1.5 mil. 

    If you do not line up with the fat cruiser that is free then he will not get hit with stray torps and beat up and you will probably get wrecked.   That is the whole key to a 37.   Like I said if you approach from the left like in this picture you will want to center your formation with that bottom fat cruiser.     If you approach from the right the free fat cruiser will be at the TOP of the formation so you will have to center your ships up there.

    GL and enjoy the res!
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  • abbandon.smith.9
    abbandon.smith.9
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    Yeah nasty....  did a 37, no damage.  Did a 33 and got messed up lol.    33 has the 2 fat cruisers and frig up front.   Nothing to slow them down.   Much harder than 37.
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  • Jon Felosi
    Jon Felosi
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    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 51
    I just realized I had these. I never even built one before. I just use longbows and exodus cruisers
  • abbandon.smith.9
    abbandon.smith.9
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    You didnt have them until a little over a week ago heh

    Talon,Nighthawk, Revelation were added then. 
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  • abbandon.smith.9
    abbandon.smith.9
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    I originally said x4(which is what I have been using for last two days!!) Talon but my friend just made me realize I am a moron..  You can actually fit x5 Talon in a fleet at shipbay 6.   

    After you get 4 start practicing though while the 5th builds.  3 is definately not enough. Anyways I edited the original post to say x5 Talon.  

    This should make it so much easier.... lol   
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  • abbandon.smith.9
    abbandon.smith.9
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    Having alot of problems with consistancy on these things.... Sometimes can do the battles flawlessly and other times I take hits. 

    I would like to reiterate what I sad about using the right click to primary the Fat Cruisers,  dont even wait until they are in range.   After you pick a spot to run away and set up your angle or strafe to you should go primary the first fat cruiser.   Then if he bypasses the frigate you can still mow him down.   

    Now I am leaning towards shockwave shields because the **** frigate is so fast and even though its easy to dodge the blasts while your strafing if your slow setting up or come to a stop by accident while strafing away you get a face full of explosions.   Its alot rarer for me to get lit up by the cruisers and lasers than it is for me to eat explosions now that I primary them.  
     

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  • Skorp
    Skorp
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    That frigate seriously needs a nerf ... I mean, come on, it has more armor than any other ship in the fleet (even in a 40!!) and can even take out an exo fleet when I again misclick or click LMB instead of RMB ...
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  • Mr Popo
    Mr Popo
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 977
    Rear thruster 3, plasma torps on talons. Run and gun. lv 37s with 0 damage with enough pratice but can take up to 2 passes.
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  • Cyrus Leung
    Cyrus Leung
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    Joined Jan 2013 Posts: 3,668
    This fleet doesn't work on VEGA fleets after the newest update which makes the harrier's scatter impossible to dodge as well as increasing the speed of the harriers.
  • slaphead
    slaphead
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    Games gone to **** like all there games........100% fact
  • abbandon.smith.9
    abbandon.smith.9
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    Agreed.   I wrote this and my strafe guide up days before patch and afterwards it was all rendered useless.    Strafing to dodge enemy fire was the core of PvE and they just destroyed it.   

    You guys have to goto the bridge though and show your displeasure or it might stay like this forever.  
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  • Achi11es
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    Agreed.   I wrote this and my strafe guide up days before patch and afterwards it was all rendered useless.    Strafing to dodge enemy fire was the core of PvE and they just destroyed it.   

    You guys have to goto the bridge though and show your displeasure or it might stay like this forever.  
    Someone tell kixeye to lay of what ever it is they are smoking. I can't outrun plasma battery with my talon's with strafe 2 on them. WTH!
  • abbandon.smith.9
    abbandon.smith.9
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    edited 21 Jun 2013, 1:44AM
    I watched people play with these today and I noticed the 37's change up its fleet formation.  

    Frigate is in lead, follow by 1 BS/1 Fat Cruiser, followed by 2 BS/1 Fat Cruiser.    The two fat cruisers are on the outside and the one no longer gets trapped by the BS.   Now its as nasty as a 33 even without the garbage weapon destruct range change.  
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  • James_M390
    James_M390
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    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 23
    2 fleets of Harrier Frigates is all you need to do 30-37.  Anything else is a waste of repair time.  I use a 3rd to take out the 40's.
  • dakota.headrick.7
    dakota.headrick.7
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    2 fleets of Harrier Frigates is all you need to do 30-37.  Anything else is a waste of repair time.  I use a 3rd to take out the 40's.
    What do you have on them if you dont mind me asking?
  • amanda.lux.925
    amanda.lux.925
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    2 fleets of Harrier Frigates is all you need to do 30-37.  Anything else is a waste of repair time.  I use a 3rd to take out the 40's.
    With a level 30, you only need one fleet if you're good. 6 Harriers: Beam II x2 ; Trit II ; spectral shield II
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  • Taha Iftikhar
    Taha Iftikhar
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 280
    Can anyone give me an estimate as to how much health these VEGA ships have?
  • V E G A
    V E G A
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    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 248
    learn to kite an ditch strafe in my opinion. earliest kite fleet that can take 40's with instant on talons. Plasma 1 doubled with rear 3 and shock 3, add iridium armor an you can take anything. that was my first kite fleet an learned to take 40's on instant repair times. Then changed to gauss, now use half an half with rear 4 . . . =)
     
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