new attack base level limitation

  • Tiny Teets
    Tiny Teets
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 623
    #5 - All these high level A-holes that quote "play farmville" or "build a better base" I challenge you to scale back your bases to that of a low to mid level 40 and see if you survive. But I know you cowards wont.... - What do you want "us" to scale back? By the low 40's you should have DU IV RESEARCHED.You should have HOWIE IV/SENT IV/CEREBUS ROCKETS IV/BOMBARD ROCKETS IV/FLAK GUNS IV/YOU SHOULD BE IN THE PROCESS OF UPGRADING YOUR TURRETS FROM Titanium III to Depleted Uranium IV. (Which I had all of the above at old level 30 - New level 43)

    You are so full of sheet.
    ROBNTHROB wrote: »
    First off I was talking about what I said..
  • Dennis Susko
    Dennis Susko
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 4
    Okay, hopefully I can explain it to the level 50+ retards who think everything is fine and dandy with the way things are:

    1. The 5 level attack restriction works well (on the new narrowed level system, screw the old, I'm not even mentioning the old system anymore, it's dead). It works great all the way to level 40. Then at level 40, the level 40 player can only attack a level 35 at the minimum but are victim to every player in the game higher than them no matter how high the level. Meanwhile, level 60+ players can attack people 20+ LEVELS LOWER! That means, in order to hit for resources, level 40's have a much more limited number of viable targets (let's say levels 35-40) because if they attack higher level bases, they take too much damage and it doesn't become worthwhile. So these 60+'s think it is fair that they can attack 20+ levels lower than them but a level 40 can only attack 5 levels lower?? Where is the parity in that??

    2. I don't have my base defenses to maximum at level 40. I play solo and I didn't even read these forums until I experienced some unbelievable crap that I thought was a game glitch so had to check it out, namely these ridiculous attack ranges at level 40+. Lo and behold, in complete dismay, I found out the game was designed this way. So I am trying to increase my base defenses. I am close to level 4, but not quite there. It takes like ten days to do the final upgrades, meanwhile, I get smashed every other day and it sets back the clock on all my upgrades as well as taking my resources. Why should a player pay so dearly for not having a maxed out base at level 40 because he made a couple poor choices earlier on in his build?? I can't just fix it, it takes many days to. I agree that at level 45 or so, one's base should be pretty near maxing out. But at level 40, that's just not the case. Even still, a level 45 maxed out base cannot defend against a maxed out fleet by someone who is 10-20 levels higher than them, let alone a fleet of these new super hulls, that the level 45 could not possibly hope to acquire because his fleets suck because he was too busy trying to build up his base from level 50+ A-holes being cowardly ****. You see the vicious cycle here?

    3. I have heard people in the low 50's say it's not so bad and that level 40's should just suck it up. I wouldn't care either if I got annihilated every other day as a level 50 because I would have maxxed out everything by then!! Who cares if you destroy my buildings and empty warehouses, I don't need to upgrade anything anymore, I'm level 50. It's the level 40 that gets totally f**ked over who is in the middle of trying to max his stuff out and getting farmed every other day by cowardly level 50+'s! This is a huge set back.

    4. For all those people who say that we have it easier with the new level changes, I completely agree ..... UP TO LEVEL 40!! The new level changes narrowed the level ranges and made it more equitable for players within 5 levels of each other. I really enjoyed coming up through the 30's because there was decent game balance. But at level 40, the game balance goes to utter s**t!! There is none. Let me try to explain this to you as clearly as I can because many of the 50+'s don't seem to understand. Level 40 players don't mind the old level brackets nor the new ones certainly, WE JUST MIND BEING FODDER FOR EVERYONE WHO IS 10, 20 OR 30+ LEVELS HIGHER THAN US!! That is, we mind that the upper bracket disappears when we turn level 40.

    In other words, I train MMA and weights and weigh 240 lbs and have lots of fighting experience in the military and bouncing (true btw). You are a fighter that weighs 155 pounds with minimal fighting experience. You fight other fighters that weigh 145-155 pounds. One day, you weigh in at 156 pounds. Suddenly, the owner of the organization tells you that there are no weight classes beyond 155 pounds. Me and you are fighting tomorrow. Would you be consoled if I told you that by this stage in your career, you should have had ample time and experience to train and should have the knowledge, tools and skill to make it an even fight?? You also have access to a fighting forum to further assist you so there should be no excuses. Oh, and by the way, after having won my last 20 fights against 156 pounders, I no longer have to wear gloves in the ring, but you do. It's a power up I got for being awesome. Somehow I don't think you would call this fair. And then you whine and complain. So I chastise you and say, "Well... you can still fight the ten fighters who weigh 145-155 right? It's just that us 100 heavyweights and super heavyweights don't like fighting each other because we hurt each other too much so we've decided to fight the welterweights, middleweights and light heavyweights instead. We think that is fair. So I pummel you... badly. You end up in the hospital for four months. As soon as you get out of the hospital, another heavyweight beats the crap out of you and puts you back in the hospital for three months. As soon as you get out again, I run into to you and pummel you badly once more. Then I tell you "Why don't you gain weight and practice your skills? You've had three months since your last fight??" Do you really think that is what you want to hear? So you try to say that it's unfair. Then I tell you "Suck it up. I used to be 156 pounds. Look at me now. I survived." Then you say, "Well yeah, but there were only ten heavyweights or superheavyweights when you were coming up. You could avoid them and pick on the huge number of lighter fighters." Then I say, "Nonsense, I had it worse than you!" and walk away. This is what us level 40 players are going through right now.

    5. Just because you level 50+ players went through the ranks a long time ago (when there were much fewer players higher level than you and therefore, less risk mind you), it doesn't mean it's not broken. You shouldn't have had to endure this either. But broken is broken and if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Kixeye loves their money don't they??

    Hopefully most people will understand the basis of the discontent by the level 40 players now. And it is justified. I reiterate, the 5 level attack range should prevail at ALL LEVELS.
  • Magic Bunny
    Magic Bunny
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 17,465
    Man Tim wrote: »
    If all the lvl 40-47 leaves, there will be less and less new players, and all the old players will quit eventually when they get bored. End of kixeye.

    most of the higher levels are hitting each other, travelling to new sectors every week - I've still got 475 sectors to visit (that's 9 years worth). Hardly boring.
    Level ... not enough fingers to count that high

    First played July 2011, in sector 96

  • Chris_Wolfe
    Chris_Wolfe
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 425
    Okay, hopefully I can explain it to the level 50+ retards who think everything is fine and dandy with the way things are:

    1. The 5 level attack restriction works well (on the new narrowed level system, screw the old, I'm not even mentioning the old system anymore, it's dead). It works great all the way to level 40. Then at level 40, the level 40 player can only attack a level 35 at the minimum but are victim to every player in the game higher than them no matter how high the level. Meanwhile, level 60+ players can attack people 20+ LEVELS LOWER! That means, in order to hit for resources, level 40's have a much more limited number of viable targets (let's say levels 35-40) because if they attack higher level bases, they take too much damage and it doesn't become worthwhile. So these 60+'s think it is fair that they can attack 20+ levels lower than them but a level 40 can only attack 5 levels lower?? Where is the parity in that??

    2. I don't have my base defenses to maximum at level 40. I play solo and I didn't even read these forums until I experienced some unbelievable crap that I thought was a game glitch so had to check it out, namely these ridiculous attack ranges at level 40+. Lo and behold, in complete dismay, I found out the game was designed this way. So I am trying to increase my base defenses. I am close to level 4, but not quite there. It takes like ten days to do the final upgrades, meanwhile, I get smashed every other day and it sets back the clock on all my upgrades as well as taking my resources. Why should a player pay so dearly for not having a maxed out base at level 40 because he made a couple poor choices earlier on in his build?? I can't just fix it, it takes many days to. I agree that at level 45 or so, one's base should be pretty near maxing out. But at level 40, that's just not the case. Even still, a level 45 maxed out base cannot defend against a maxed out fleet by someone who is 10-20 levels higher than them, let alone a fleet of these new super hulls, that the level 45 could not possibly hope to acquire because his fleets suck because he was too busy trying to build up his base from level 50+ A-holes being cowardly ****. You see the vicious cycle here?

    3. I have heard people in the low 50's say it's not so bad and that level 40's should just suck it up. I wouldn't care either if I got annihilated every other day as a level 50 because I would have maxxed out everything by then!! Who cares if you destroy my buildings and empty warehouses, I don't need to upgrade anything anymore, I'm level 50. It's the level 40 that gets totally f**ked over who is in the middle of trying to max his stuff out and getting farmed every other day by cowardly level 50+'s! This is a huge set back.

    4. For all those people who say that we have it easier with the new level changes, I completely agree ..... UP TO LEVEL 40!! The new level changes narrowed the level ranges and made it more equitable for players within 5 levels of each other. I really enjoyed coming up through the 30's because there was decent game balance. But at level 40, the game balance goes to utter s**t!! There is none. Let me try to explain this to you as clearly as I can because many of the 50+'s don't seem to understand. Level 40 players don't mind the old level brackets nor the new ones certainly, WE JUST MIND BEING FODDER FOR EVERYONE WHO IS 10, 20 OR 30+ LEVELS HIGHER THAN US!! That is, we mind that the upper bracket disappears when we turn level 40.

    In other words, I train MMA and weights and weigh 240 lbs and have lots of fighting experience in the military and bouncing (true btw). You are a fighter that weighs 155 pounds with minimal fighting experience. You fight other fighters that weigh 145-155 pounds. One day, you weigh in at 156 pounds. Suddenly, the owner of the organization tells you that there are no weight classes beyond 155 pounds. Me and you are fighting tomorrow. Would you be consoled if I told you that by this stage in your career, you should have had ample time and experience to train and should have the knowledge, tools and skill to make it an even fight?? You also have access to a fighting forum to further assist you so there should be no excuses. Oh, and by the way, after having won my last 20 fights against 156 pounders, I no longer have to wear gloves in the ring, but you do. It's a power up I got for being awesome. Somehow I don't think you would call this fair. And then you whine and complain. So I chastise you and say, "Well... you can still fight the ten fighters who weigh 145-155 right? It's just that us 100 heavyweights and super heavyweights don't like fighting each other because we hurt each other too much so we've decided to fight the welterweights, middleweights and light heavyweights instead. We think that is fair. So I pummel you... badly. You end up in the hospital for four months. As soon as you get out of the hospital, another heavyweight beats the crap out of you and puts you back in the hospital for three months. As soon as you get out again, I run into to you and pummel you badly once more. Then I tell you "Why don't you gain weight and practice your skills? You've had three months since your last fight??" Do you really think that is what you want to hear? So you try to say that it's unfair. Then I tell you "Suck it up. I used to be 156 pounds. Look at me now. I survived." Then you say, "Well yeah, but there were only ten heavyweights or superheavyweights when you were coming up. You could avoid them and pick on the huge number of lighter fighters." Then I say, "Nonsense, I had it worse than you!" and walk away. This is what us level 40 players are going through right now.

    5. Just because you level 50+ players went through the ranks a long time ago (when there were much fewer players higher level than you and therefore, less risk mind you), it doesn't mean it's not broken. You shouldn't have had to endure this either. But broken is broken and if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Kixeye loves their money don't they??

    Hopefully most people will understand the basis of the discontent by the level 40 players now. And it is justified. I reiterate, the 5 level attack range should prevail at ALL LEVELS.

    What you really fail to understand is under the old scheme of things, Lv 28 (40) players were constantly being leveled by Lv 33 (50+) players, who should at that stage have all the tech unlocked and still being able to level bases to their hearts content. All that has changed is that anyone who is lv 40 or above is open to slightly higher level players than they were previously exposed.
    If playing Battle Pirates taught me anything, it's:

    You can please some people most of the time, and you can please most people some of the time, but you will never, ever be able to keep those bitchy little whiners who inhabit yours forums from having a cry about every single thing you ever do (or don't do).

    *In my best old man voice* Kids these days have no idea how easy they have it. All these new fangled gadgets and no idea how to use it.
  • kingj0n
    kingj0n
    Master Tactician
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 2,429
    wolf123 wrote: »
    i think kixeye should have arranged the new level hitting system to be as followed;
    -5 to +5 level for 39 and below.
    players between level 40 to 49 can hit each other but can't be hit from level 50 and above.
    level 50 and above can all kill one another lol


    Wow, that's stupid..
    So an old level 32 cannot hit an old level 31..

    What?
  • kingj0n
    kingj0n
    Master Tactician
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 2,429
    Well Let me put it in the simplest terms so a pea brain like you can understand it.


    #5 - All these high level A-holes that quote "play farmville" or "build a better base" I challenge you to scale back your bases to that of a low to mid level 40 and see if you survive. But I know you cowards wont.... - What do you want "us" to scale back? By the low 40's you should have DU IV RESEARCHED.You should have HOWIE IV/SENT IV/CEREBUS ROCKETS IV/BOMBARD ROCKETS IV/FLAK GUNS IV/YOU SHOULD BE IN THE PROCESS OF UPGRADING YOUR TURRETS FROM Titanium III to Depleted Uranium IV. (Which I had all of the above at old level 30 - New level 43)



    I have level 40-42 friends who are constantly stopping level 50-65 players..
    No one under 50 could get in.

    Just build a better base... of course, they will not stop 100% of attacks, but 96.29% of attacks are stopped...


    I didn't read the red text. I just wanted to quote number 5. hehe
    Now I did read it.
    yes, my fiancee had all DU4 turrets, all those level 4 weapons except for Cerberus 4 before 30..She got that at 30...Also had level 3 panels at 30. At 31, she had SL3..
  • Pirate_Steve
    Pirate_Steve
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 1,952
    The level change did not change a thing for me, I was level 34.

    For those that say, quit bringing up the old system, it is done to show perspective to those complaining. That perspective should show to those complaining that...nothing ....has ....changed for them. (in this instance, those complaining = lvl 40's being hit by higher levels). This is nothing different than old level 24's being hit by those 29's, the new level 40.

    The difference now is that those level 40's have fewer targets themselves to hit below them. What strikes me the most about all this is, that I have seen very few lvl 40's complaining about that fact. Those that don't, I can only assume, do not hit bases much, if any, at all. If I was lvl 40, this is what would have peeved me off about the change. These are what must be the salvage pirates. Are most of them also the ones asking for someone to open salvage for them?

    What hasn't changed with the level update is, resources are so easy to get, click repair, quit bellyaching about getting hit, and restock what you need!

    There has been alot of good tips given in this thread, I would encourage those mid levels to reread and learn.
  • Occams Razor
    Occams Razor
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 1,228
    Well Let me put it in the simplest terms so a pea brain like you can understand it.

    #1 - super raid hulls that cant be stopped -I've been playing since BEFORE RR1 when the HH-A was that "Super" raid hull and you know what I SURVIVED . Then next was the HH-B I SURVIVED THAT TOO. And back then we didn't have TURRET SPECIALS EITHER IT WAS AND STILL IS ALL ABOUT BASE DESIGN/WEAPON BALANCE

    #2 - The Strike and DX need to be removed from the game just on the point they are too **** powerful - Well **** people said the SAME F'N things about the HH-A/HH-B and you know what IMHO they're still **** good hulls even being a YEAR OLD.Oh I know you want to go back to the days of when FF's were the best hull/Dark Water/No Advanced Lab.Take off the training diapers put on some big boy pants and LEARN HOW TO PLAY OR GTFO.

    #3 - Maybe if Kix would honestly upgrade the base defenses - Adding the Halo (even Nerfed) Is IMHO A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.Oh what's that you weren't even close to getting the SC/Halo because of Fail shipbuilding so let's punish those that can learn and adopt by taking their toys away.

    #4 - Honestly make it so people have to actually PILOT their ships, not just point/click to the back of the base, sit back and pop a beer and watch. - Sounds to me like you have the type of base that the not so super fortress could break so rather than take the time to design a DECENT base you want everything handed to you.

    #5 - All these high level A-holes that quote "play farmville" or "build a better base" I challenge you to scale back your bases to that of a low to mid level 40 and see if you survive. But I know you cowards wont.... - What do you want "us" to scale back? By the low 40's you should have DU IV RESEARCHED.You should have HOWIE IV/SENT IV/CEREBUS ROCKETS IV/BOMBARD ROCKETS IV/FLAK GUNS IV/YOU SHOULD BE IN THE PROCESS OF UPGRADING YOUR TURRETS FROM Titanium III to Depleted Uranium IV. (Which I had all of the above at old level 30 - New level 43)



    #6 - Current defenses are not up to par with the super raid hulls. The defenses now are set up for Hammerhead ships as the top hull, not raid hulls. - How the F'K do you think the ORIGINAL winners got those HH-A/HH-B Hulls OH YEAH THEY HAD TO WIN A COMPETITION AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE WINNER PER SECTOR NOT LIKE IT IS NOW WHERE ANYONE CAN GET THOSE "TOP" HULLS IF THEY MEET A QUOTA.If your base is that WEAK then you need to take BASE DESIGN CLASSES I GUESS.

    wow you are so full of fail its a wonder you can even do point and click. I'm betting its because you got your fanboi head shoved so far up Kix' arse that you are having trouble breathing...

    Its the players fault for building ships for a raid that was supposed to have hubs in it and were removed. My fleets were set up just right for hubs, but they were removed and its my fault??? You are such a stupid ****.

    Everything you said was a total waste to the point you even contradict yourself or do you not know what "new raid hulls" mean. its complete and utter morons like yourself that are "just fine" with everything as long as you shell out money to pay for your lack of skill and understanding. Try playing the game instead of being a sheep and about as bright as a ball bearing.....
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  • Pirate_Steve
    Pirate_Steve
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    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 1,952
    Jim Waters wrote: »
    wow you are so full of fail its a wonder you can even do point and click. I'm betting its because you got your fanboi head shoved so far up Kix' arse that you are having trouble breathing...

    Actually, that wasn't fanboi at all. He pretty much hit it on the head on how it was.

    "back n the day", watching hh-b's walk through bases was a cool, and dreaded thing to watch. And I didn't have them then. We adapted our bases to this new threat. Rinse, repeat with the dread.
  • Captain Trips
    Captain Trips
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 351
    Okay, hopefully I can explain it to the level 50+ retards who think everything is fine and dandy with the way things are:

    1. The 5 level attack restriction works well (on the new narrowed level system, screw the old, I'm not even mentioning the old system anymore, it's dead). It works great all the way to level 40. Then at level 40, the level 40 player can only attack a level 35 at the minimum but are victim to every player in the game higher than them no matter how high the level. Meanwhile, level 60+ players can attack people 20+ LEVELS LOWER! That means, in order to hit for resources, level 40's have a much more limited number of viable targets (let's say levels 35-40) because if they attack higher level bases, they take too much damage and it doesn't become worthwhile. So these 60+'s think it is fair that they can attack 20+ levels lower than them but a level 40 can only attack 5 levels lower?? Where is the parity in that??
    First off, no need to be calling people retards, if you want a sensible discussion that is not a good start.

    Ok, main points.

    A level 40 has always been able to be hit by a level 58.

    Also the tech level of most players level 58 (old 34, who could attack down to old 29, new 40) is not much different from those whose level exceeds 60. After that point levels don't count for anything, you don't get any more new tech and it is then just down to skill/credit limit.

    How many level 60+ are there? To be level 60 or above would have meant that you were over level 35 on the old scale. So 1 maybe 2 per sector?

    Someone at level 120 will have the same tech as someone who is level 58(old 34, who could attack 29's). So there is no difference.
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  • Occams Razor
    Occams Razor
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    sardonique wrote: »
    ssshhhh....don't tell Jim Waters about the super secret turret that is given out to people once they hit level 54....you know, the one where a monkey sits on top of a tower and throws poo at the attackers. It will just give him more to QQ about. He QQ's about the SCruiser and the Dread X and says that we need better base defenses. I don't know....my base is doing just fine. If a mid-40 doesn't have a max'd out defense system on his/her base....they did something wrong somewhere along the way.

    Maybe someone should read the post instead of looking like a complete tool. I'm betting your maxed everything that runs one warehouse for repairs. Shut up and sit down before you fall off your pedestal with your "oh look i'm so cool I use a different color to post fail"
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  • trivie
    trivie
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 278
    most of the higher levels are hitting each other, travelling to new sectors every week - I've still got 475 sectors to visit (that's 9 years worth). Hardly boring.

    Sorry magic Bunny that is not what I have seen in the last few sectors I have been in, What I have witness is current level 56 pluses only hitting lvl 40-44 bases, I even seen a 70 hitting a lvl 40 base from a few sectors away.
  • sardonique13
    sardonique13
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    Jim Waters wrote: »
    Maybe someone should read the post instead of looking like a complete tool. I'm betting your maxed everything that runs one warehouse for repairs. Shut up and sit down before you fall off your pedestal with your "oh look i'm so cool I use a different color to post fail"

    you really should just quit this game.....I think it is causing you too much stress. Your blood pressure must be through the roof. Chill man.....let that vein on your forehead calm down.......
    sardonique

    ex-IKY, ex-DOA, ex-PNLS, never ex-ex.....

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  • squidbillies
    squidbillies
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 39
    Well just as we all predicted, now that the raid is over all of us lvl 40-somethings are being raped by the upper 50's-60's. Thank you so much Kixeye for royally screwing over the largest segment of your population. I love nothing more than spending every moment of game time in a bubble with no way protect myself from players 20 levels higher than me. Nice job.
  • piratepete67
    piratepete67
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 63
    Tiny **** wrote: »
    You are so full of sheet.

    How am I full of sheet . By level 29(OLD LEVELS) I had DU IV researched and was upgrading my turrets from **** III to DU IV. Ok Maybe Not everything else was level IV research BUT IT ALSO WAS BEFORE Turret specials and besides I was trying to refute the op's COMPLAINT about an upper level not wanting to "scale" back their base BECAUSE when you get to a certain point it's ALL base design/shipbuilds as the TECH IS PRETTY MUCH EQUAL.
  • RattleHead_tm
    RattleHead_tm
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 759
    Does it really matter if it's a lvl 66 that hits a lvl 40, or if it's a lvl 33 hitting a lvl 28 or 29 on the old system, your base is still gonna get hit, it's still going to get leveled. We all went through it, I still get farmed on a regular basis. Hit repair and use your 36 hrs wisely.

  • Captain Trips
    Captain Trips
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    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 351
    Well just as we all predicted, now that the raid is over all of us lvl 40-somethings are being raped by the upper 50's-60's. Thank you so much Kixeye for royally screwing over the largest segment of your population. I love nothing more than spending every moment of game time in a bubble with no way protect myself from players 20 levels higher than me. Nice job.

    If your in a bubble, your protected, use the time wisely, if you don't want to be in a bubble pop it. Simple.
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  • piratepete67
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    Jim Waters wrote: »
    wow you are so full of fail its a wonder you can even do point and click. I'm betting its because you got your fanboi head shoved so far up Kix' arse that you are having trouble breathing...

    Its the players fault for building ships for a raid that was supposed to have hubs in it and were removed. My fleets were set up just right for hubs, but they were removed and its my fault??? You are such a stupid ****.

    Everything you said was a total waste to the point you even contradict yourself or do you not know what "new raid hulls" mean. its complete and utter morons like yourself that are "just fine" with everything as long as you shell out money to pay for your lack of skill and understanding. Try playing the game instead of being a sheep and about as bright as a ball bearing.....

    Please oh great and MIGHTY ONE ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO WHERE I CONTRADICTED MYSELF? I get it your base is so FAIL that Strike Cruisers/DN-X are flattening it (which is why you would love to see them gone) all I was pointing out is that I've been playing since the "ORIGINAL" super hull the HH-A and they can make a base just as flat as a Strike Cruiser/DN/DN-X.

    My regular raid ballistic fleets were doing just fine against the hubs with very minor adjustments (Mixing in MISSILE SHIPS with the BALLISTIC ONES) so YES IT IS YOUR FAIL SHIPBUILDING AT FAULT HERE as IF you're at that level(new 39/40/41) you should have at least one SALVAGE FLEET (MISSILES) with SFB II/III

    Oh FYI NOOB I CERTAINLY AM NOT A KIXEYE FANBOI. they got MORE THAN ENOUGH SLAMMING ON THE FORUMS FOR THE FAIL RAID THAT JUST FINISHED.Instead of me WHINING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I COULDN'T CHANGE WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE HUBS I SPENT MY TIME PLAYING THE GAME TO GET WHAT I WANTED.
  • Magic Bunny
    Magic Bunny
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    trivie wrote: »
    Sorry magic Bunny that is not what I have seen in the last few sectors I have been in, What I have witness is current level 56 pluses only hitting lvl 40-44 bases, I even seen a 70 hitting a lvl 40 base from a few sectors away.

    level 56 is not what i'd consider higher level players -
    Level ... not enough fingers to count that high

    First played July 2011, in sector 96

  • Captain Trips
    Captain Trips
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    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 351
    level 56 is not what i'd consider higher level players -


    Lol, what would you consider a high level then.

    Your a 63, old 35, a 56 is an old 34. Not much difference if you look at it like that. Anyway he said 56+ and mentions a 70.
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  • KernowWarrior
    KernowWarrior
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    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 12
    Reinstate the +5/-5 for over 40's I decided to give it time to evaluate the outcome of your decision, evaluation done! It sucks.
  • Occams Razor
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    Please oh great and MIGHTY ONE ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO WHERE I CONTRADICTED MYSELF? I get it your base is so FAIL that Strike Cruisers/DN-X are flattening it (which is why you would love to see them gone) all I was pointing out is that I've been playing since the "ORIGINAL" super hull the HH-A and they can make a base just as flat as a Strike Cruiser/DN/DN-X.

    My regular raid ballistic fleets were doing just fine against the hubs with very minor adjustments (Mixing in MISSILE SHIPS with the BALLISTIC ONES) so YES IT IS YOUR FAIL SHIPBUILDING AT FAULT HERE as IF you're at that level(new 39/40/41) you should have at least one SALVAGE FLEET (MISSILES) with SFB II/III

    Oh FYI NOOB I CERTAINLY AM NOT A KIXEYE FANBOI. they got MORE THAN ENOUGH SLAMMING ON THE FORUMS FOR THE FAIL RAID THAT JUST FINISHED.Instead of me WHINING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I COULDN'T CHANGE WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE HUBS I SPENT MY TIME PLAYING THE GAME TO GET WHAT I WANTED.
    Maybe if Kix would honestly upgrade the base defenses(not the P.O.S. Halo crap missile) to current overpowered hull levels, not keep it back when the Hammerhead was the top dog hull

    consider your self enlightened noob. Read a post before you go spouting off like an idiot. Now go lay down and take a nap before you burst a vessel you fanboi POS
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  • piratepete67
    piratepete67
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 63
    Jim Waters wrote: »
    consider your self enlightened noob. Read a post before you go spouting off like an idiot. Now go lay down and take a nap before you burst a vessel you fanboi POS

    Funny I Do Just Fine Keeping Out DN/DN-X/SC fleets. You need to Take Basebuilding 101 classes I guess.Oh I Knew exactly what you were asking for and as I already replied to you IMHO the Halo is a STEP in the right direction.No ONE type of DEFENSE IS/WILL BE THE ANSWER .
    Jim Waters wrote: »
    wow you are so full of fail its a wonder you can even do point and click. I'm betting its because you got your fanboi head shoved so far up Kix' arse that you are having trouble breathing...

    I MOST CERTAINLY AM NOT A FANBOI (Magic Bunny is the PERFECT DEFINITION of one though)
    Jim Waters wrote: »
    Its the players fault for building ships for a raid that was supposed to have hubs in it and were removed. My fleets were set up just right for hubs, but they were removed and its my fault??? You are such a stupid ****.
    My regular raid ballistic fleets were doing just fine against the hubs with very minor adjustments (Mixing in MISSILE SHIPS with the BALLISTIC ONES) so YES IT IS YOUR FAIL SHIPBUILDING AT FAULT HERE as IF you're at that level(new 39/40/41) you should have at least one SALVAGE FLEET (MISSILES) with SFB II/III

    Jim Waters wrote: »
    Everything you said was a total waste to the point you even contradict yourself or do you not know what "new raid hulls" mean. its complete and utter morons like yourself that are "just fine" with everything as long as you shell out money to pay for your lack of skill and understanding. Try playing the game instead of being a sheep and about as bright as a ball bearing.....

    Oh because I UNDERSTAND THE GAME BETTER than some others that makes me a COINER.Yes FLEETS are TOUGHER now but A WELL DESIGNED BASE WILL KEEP A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF FLEETS OUT.

    Guess you need to find a SIMPLER game to play because it's obvious to me that this one is too complex for your SIMPLE MIND.
  • piratepete67
    piratepete67
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 63
    Actually, that wasn't fanboi at all. He pretty much hit it on the head on how it was.

    "back n the day", watching hh-b's walk through bases was a cool, and dreaded thing to watch. And I didn't have them then. We adapted our bases to this new threat. Rinse, repeat with the dread.

    Thank's I'm glad someone UNDERSTOOD the points I was making.
  • Len Burst
    Len Burst
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 43
    another poor move, Kixeye.... I am level 42 last night a level 62 base hit me.... yeah I am moaning so what!!! lower bases cannot compete with these higher bases, if they try to retaliate, they are only asking for another farming. Their only other choice is to move to another sector and hope the sector protects its own or they are lucky enough to move away from such high arrogant players. Or they will get bored with being farmed and leave the game.
  • Dee McLean
    Dee McLean
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 1,561
    Tiny **** wrote: »
    o.O

    When that level 70 rolls up to your level 40 base......................then you'll understand a little better.

    Well it's 100% damage Vs 100% damage...both flat? Yes, so it's exactly the same to the level 40
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  • Dee McLean
    Dee McLean
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 1,561
    Jim Waters wrote: »
    LOL, maybe they should be limited in their targets. Seems most of them anyways are afraid to take on a fair fight. It seems Kix has a new fanboi making the rounds.

    Saying they would get smashed anyways is just a cop out validating their cowardice to hit someone that can't fight back. And its all a bunch of BS saying the tech levels and blah blah blah, 40's dont even come close to having the raid tech the higher ups have, you say they do, your a liar.

    Come on then, you quoted me...where did I say that level 40s have the same tech that the higher players have? Sorry what was that? Where? Oh that's right, I didn't say that at all...you're just making crap up. By the way, I was a level 40 when the levels changed, a level 41 when I first commented on this thread and now a 42 so don't get all 'you're a fanboi, high leveler who bullies wee bases' on me. As for the level change, I still think meh, who cares.
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  • Weresquirrel
    Weresquirrel
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 9,977
    Dee McLean wrote: »
    I didn't say that at all...you're just making crap up. By the way, I was a level 40 when the levels changed, a level 41 when I first commented on this thread and now a 42 so don't get all 'you're a fanboi, high leveler who bullies wee bases' on me.

    Following up as a level 47 who was level 44 when the levels changed...y'know normally some of us mellow folks don't go looking for fights and prefer to protect our own crew--but once in a while a forums warrior prompts a knuckle-cracking and a Hm...these HHBs from the raid before last are starting to make a nice fleet...wouldn't it be nice to try them out?

    A word to the wise: when you have no viable defense do not broadcast the lack while irritating people.
  • Master_Chief
    Master_Chief
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 271
    Dee McLean wrote: »
    When you look at it from the perspective of how much of a thrashing the higher level can dish out, I would say it's exactly the same. By level 46, most players have some half decent fleets that can adequately smash someone 5 levels below. An old level 29 was already getting smashed by every decent level 33-34 who made a reasonable attempt on their base so now are able to be smashed by those who are even higher...there is no difference, a base cannot get any flatter than flat ;)

    The high end players are fewer than the mid range players therefore they had less targets under the previous system...this was changed to allow them more targets by widening the gap.

    An old level 34 had the same tech available to them as an old level 36+, the only difference being the time spent playing and experience gained. The higher level player cannot give your base more damage than the 100% damage that the old level 34 did.

    Very Well said. Before the change, i was a Level 34. Now i am a 58. I was flattening Level 29's with ease. Guess what, Level 40's are now what i can flatten with ease. What changed? Just the numbers. My target range didn't increase or decrease. Still the same level of people i can hit. The difference is now, as i get bigger, i can still hit those same people. Is that fair? Absolutely, because those same players that are at that old 29 level, still should be just as tough, and guess what, by Level 33, i had everything researched already. So did the extra time make me tougher? Sure, only because i have had more time and experience in the game. Not because i have anything better than they do. Also, if people spent more time opening their own salvages, and finding their own BP's, instead of having people open Salvages for them, they wouldn't gain rank as quick, without finding the appropriate BP's. Just food for thought.
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  • Tiny Teets
    Tiny Teets
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 623
    Dee McLean wrote: »
    Well it's 100% damage Vs 100% damage...both flat? Yes, so it's exactly the same to the level 40

    Some people will never understand, or just dont want to.

    The game mechanics allow for some degree of self defense.

    At a 30 level gap there is no chance of defending oneself.

    You really should try to get a clue........................you look silly defending this wide desperaity in attacking levels.
    ROBNTHROB wrote: »
    First off I was talking about what I said..
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