new attack base level limitation

  • Cpt_Markus
    Cpt_Markus
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 208
    Why does it F'n matter to everyone that you can be hit by higher levels now?? I dont get it. It doesnt matter if you are smashed by someone level 41 or level 81! The result IS EXACTLY THE SAME!! You get a 2day bubble! Hit repair and move on!
  • Dee McLean
    Dee McLean
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    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 1,561
    Patiszerg wrote: »
    LOL that's hilarious... It is crazy how such a high level can flatten a lower level... An old 35+ can destroy 29s with hardly no damage taken. I don't see the challenge.

    You're right in that it doesn't present a challenge...it still makes no difference to the level 40 though ;)
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  • Dee McLean
    Dee McLean
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    well i can speak from experience here i was old level 31 now i just turned old level 32 , so new level 49 .... and guess what a level 64 player can come and smash my base to pieces , like a stroll in the park with their dread x's , dup 4 or even the compound armour that gives 33 % protection against all base weapons.. .a dread x has far more armour already than the ffs i have even with dup 4 kixeye has royally SCREWED UP with this level change.. they say its due to the lesser amounts of base targets the higher levels can attack due to shortage of high level players.......... well kixeye here is a clue for you ........ MAKE THE DAM RAIDS FAIRER FOR THOSE OF A LOWER LEVEL , REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF POINTS NEEDED AND TIER THE PRIZES ACCORDINGLY , HOW THE HELL DO YOU KIXEYE PEOPLE REALLY EXPECT A NEW LEVEL 30 TO 40 PLAYER TO OBTAIN SUCH A STUPID AMOUNT OF POINTS...........WISE UP KIXEYE , OR SOON IT WILL BE A CASE OF .... THE LAST PERSON LEFT IN THE BUILDING TURN OFF THE LIGHTS AND LOCK THE STEEL DOOR COS BATTLE PIRATES WILL BE LIKE A GHOST TOWN WITH ONLY THE LEVEL 60 + PLAYERS LEFT ALL PAYING YOUR SALARY WITH THE CREDIT CARDS AND ONCE THEY STOP PAYING COS THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO FLATTEN WITH THEIR NEW TOYS YOU WONT HAVE A SALARY TO COLLECT .

    To be fair...an old level 34 can also have DreadX, many do...that and DU4. So either way, you're getting yourself some crazy putt :p
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  • Dee McLean
    Dee McLean
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    Again for those who weren't listening.

    Level 49 = old 32 correct?
    Level 64 = old 35 correct?

    So, now listen carefully, HE COULD HIT YOU BEFORE, IT HASN'T CHANGED ANYTHING FOR YOU.

    Yay someone said it :D lol
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  • captainjackswallows
    captainjackswallows
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    PAX_DI wrote: »
    Why, a level 59 player can attack a player of level 46, and level 46 player can attack a maximum level 40 player? This is not unfair to convey players between 40 and 50?

    This guy says it all
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  • Ric Erikson
    Ric Erikson
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    Joined May 2012 Posts: 46
    :lol::D:):mad:
  • Ric Erikson
    Ric Erikson
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    Joined May 2012 Posts: 46
    Unfortunately the game has moved on. It is no longer about having a good base that you need to defend to prevent your resources being stolen.
    The game now revolves around the Raids, build a fleet to be able to compete in these or fall further and further behind, anyone with Dread X can practicably walk through most bases anyway (we'll see if/how the Halo alters things).
    Res is so easy to collect now, the only point of base attacks is for the fun of it. FvF has died.
    That is what is killing the game, it is just an arms race now with the heavy coiners steam rolling everyone else. There is no skill needed only a high credit limit.



    joined forum and game at almost same time, have been playing since May 2012,
    I have upgraded 50% of turrets to du4, have level 3 weapons on them and can kill exactly "0" dreads x's during a base attack
    and also have 0 fleets able to make 6 million points in a raid

    so I agree with your post, no balance left in the game , just an arms race with top level players gaining an ever increasing lead over everyone else
    with no way to catch up or get to level play unless you are willing to spend $$$ many hundreds of dollars $$$ on a "free game?".
    with excellent online wargames costing a lot less I don't really see how BP is going to survive in the long term
  • Samuel Tsao
    Samuel Tsao
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    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 863
    PAX_DI wrote: »
    Why, a level 59 player can attack a player of level 46, and level 46 player can attack a maximum level 40 player? This is not unfair to convey players between 40 and 50?

    a lvl 34 hitting alvl 30.....not much difference if u ask me ur just week, i seen lvl 44's beat up lvl 50's
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  • Di_MaLuKo
    Di_MaLuKo
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 11
    good, with all this yet still keep thinking unjust, high level players will not agree with me, but the game is easy for them, and very hard level 40 pros, because, even though the base is strong, has a flawless design when one enters a 59 base 43, the battle does not need the last 5 minutes, just two minutes to level the base .. therefore believe that the proposed equilibrium has not worked, because if a 48 attack that same 43, then 48 is not an efficient fleet will have to level the base point of 43 ... because in the old scheme, the base that a level 31 would have to attack a base level 26 27 28 of 29 upwards was already very difficult to get into a base without losing the entire fleet ...
  • crickethunter
    crickethunter
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 190
    it is done this way just because by the time you are at this level if you want to play the game you need to coin to get the bigger ships no coin no play so do what i did quit!!!!!! i only come to forums to laugh at the coiners that compla
  • Nickolas Griffith
    Nickolas Griffith
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 3,405
    when a high level hits you, even doing the same ammount of dmge...it seems like they are powerful...
  • Occams Razor
    Occams Razor
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 1,228
    Dee McLean wrote: »
    When you look at it from the perspective of how much of a thrashing the higher level can dish out, I would say it's exactly the same. By level 46, most players have some half decent fleets that can adequately smash someone 5 levels below. An old level 29 was already getting smashed by every decent level 33-34 who made a reasonable attempt on their base so now are able to be smashed by those who are even higher...there is no difference, a base cannot get any flatter than flat ;)

    The high end players are fewer than the mid range players therefore they had less targets under the previous system...this was changed to allow them more targets by widening the gap.

    An old level 34 had the same tech available to them as an old level 36+, the only difference being the time spent playing and experience gained. The higher level player cannot give your base more damage than the 100% damage that the old level 34 did.

    LOL, maybe they should be limited in their targets. Seems most of them anyways are afraid to take on a fair fight. It seems Kix has a new fanboi making the rounds.

    Saying they would get smashed anyways is just a cop out validating their cowardice to hit someone that can't fight back. And its all a bunch of BS saying the tech levels and blah blah blah, 40's dont even come close to having the raid tech the higher ups have, you say they do, your a liar.
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  • Russell Drake
    Russell Drake
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2011 Posts: 16
    so its fair for me old 31 new 50 to have absolutely no targets below my level only above my lvl think about that as you pull your head out of your **** and realize you cant have everything you want just cause you are having your **** handed to you by people higher lvl then you just remember that in the old system i would still be able to level your **** day in and day out cause you would be within 5 lvls of me so stop your **** and get the **** over it.
    wolf123 wrote: »
    i think kixeye should have arranged the new level hitting system to be as followed;
    -5 to +5 level for 39 and below.
    players between level 40 to 49 can hit each other but can't be hit from level 50 and above.
    level 50 and above can all kill one another lol
  • Nickolas Griffith
    Nickolas Griffith
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 3,405
    well, im level 32 and i havent hit a base in 10 months....
  • Dennis Susko
    Dennis Susko
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 4
    For all those people that said, "it was the same under the old system and you could still get hit blah,blah.blah..." ... I don't give a crap, I didn't really play under the old system and don't care about it. What I do care about is that everything is great (relatively speaking) up until level 40 where you can attack within 5 levels of your base (Old system or new system , who cares, the numbers are semantics only). You can actually defend your base somewhat and there is a semblance of game balance. Then all of a sudden, I hit level 40 and suddenly the entire game opens up to me and I instantly get smashed by level 50+'s. WTF?? I have absolutely no chance to defend no matter how much I try and increase my base defences. What is the incentive to play anymore?? The attraction to playing before level 40 was that there was some skill and thought involved in building up my fleets and base and I could see the results because I was successfully defending my base a good chunk of the time. Now, what's the point? I will still get steamrolled no matter what. And don't tell tell me I should have known to build up my base. I play alone and hardly read the forum. I didn't even know that at level 40, you get opened up to everyone higher. I shouldn't have to pay so dearly for who knows how long to try and build up my base... and it won't matter anyway, cause I would still get demolished by a level 60 fleet.. so who cares? You should only be able to attack within 5 levels period!! At any time!! Who was the genius that decided game balance didn't matter at the higher level?? Brutal!! And for those people who are level 50+ and don't seem to have many targets, deal with it! It's a pyramid, there are smaller numbers at the top, that's reality. Don't like it? Start over. Or maybe, just maybe, if the players in the 40's don't get smashed everyday, they will actually rise in level faster and you will have company up there sooner rather than later. Brutal!! My passion to play has just been destroyed and I'm doubtful if I'm gonna come back since there is no point with this level system now.
  • Magic Bunny
    Magic Bunny
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 17,465
    For all those people that said, "it was the same under the old system and you could still get hit blah,blah.blah..." ... I don't give a crap, I didn't really play under the old system and don't care about it. What I do care about is that everything is great (relatively speaking) up until level 40 where you can attack within 5 levels of your base (Old system or new system , who cares, the numbers are semantics only). You can actually defend your base somewhat and there is a semblance of game balance. Then all of a sudden, I hit level 40 and suddenly the entire game opens up to me and I instantly get smashed by level 50+'s. WTF?? I have absolutely no chance to defend no matter how much I try and increase my base defences. What is the incentive to play anymore?? The attraction to playing before level 40 was that there was some skill and thought involved in building up my fleets and base and I could see the results because I was successfully defending my base a good chunk of the time. Now, what's the point? I will still get steamrolled no matter what. And don't tell tell me I should have known to build up my base. I play alone and hardly read the forum. I didn't even know that at level 40, you get opened up to everyone higher. I shouldn't have to pay so dearly for who knows how long to try and build up my base... and it won't matter anyway, cause I would still get demolished by a level 60 fleet.. so who cares? You should only be able to attack within 5 levels period!! At any time!! Who was the genius that decided game balance didn't matter at the higher level?? Brutal!! And for those people who are level 50+ and don't seem to have many targets, deal with it! It's a pyramid, there are smaller numbers at the top, that's reality. Don't like it? Start over. Or maybe, just maybe, if the players in the 40's don't get smashed everyday, they will actually rise in level faster and you will have company up there sooner rather than later. Brutal!! My passion to play has just been destroyed and I'm doubtful if I'm gonna come back since there is no point with this level system now.

    kixeye have made their changes

    and also consider how many level 47+ now have dread x or SC, they can still level you. Changing the levels again will do nothing.
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  • Joseph Blake
    Joseph Blake
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    Joined May 2012 Posts: 546
    You should only be able to attack within 5 levels period!! At any time!! Who was the genius that decided game balance didn't matter at the higher level?? Brutal!!And for those people who are level 50+ and don't seem to have many targets, deal with it! It's a pyramid, there are smaller numbers at the top, that's reality. Don't like it? Start over. Or maybe, just maybe, if the players in the 40's don't get smashed everyday, they will actually rise in level faster and you will have company up there sooner rather than later. Brutal!! My passion to play has just been destroyed and I'm doubtful if I'm gonna come back since there is no point with this level system now.
    I love this one and it is so true! So tired of hearing the higher levels telling the lower levels to suck it up, build a better base LOL this guy tells you the truth. The higher levels whined about not enoough targets with new level system and the loudest babies got the pacifier.
  • Joseph Blake
    Joseph Blake
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 546
    Jim Waters wrote: »
    LOL, maybe they should be limited in their targets. Seems most of them anyways are afraid to take on a fair fight. It seems Kix has a new fanboi making the rounds.

    Saying they would get smashed anyways is just a cop out validating their cowardice to hit someone that can't fight back. And its all a bunch of BS saying the tech levels and blah blah blah, 40's dont even come close to having the raid tech the higher ups have, you say they do, your a liar.

    I am seeing lots of truth in this thread so far. I see more heart in the levels 40-45 who try to fight back compared to the pure cowardice of the higher levels that hit so low just to make them look better. God forbid if they lost to someone in their own level range
  • arghhh
    arghhh
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 37
    i think it was me lol and you happen to be the 8th base for that fleet so stop crying i hit from 54 to 40 that day to ruin your raid stop crying
  • Hawkeye117
    Hawkeye117
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    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 322
    How about the little level 40's, before whining, convert their hitter's level to the old level and see if they could still hit them... I hate to say this but most of the time (90% or more?) it'll be a level 31-33 (old system) who has lost their level 26-28 (old system) farms... It's not that you're getting hit by bigger players, it's that the other players are targeting you where before they could have steered clear so that they could take less damage...

    You're going through exactly the same as a level 25+ (old system) did... I got farmed horrendously between 25 and 28 (old system) because of getting DU4 up to scratch plus the raids made me level quicker (res haul), I reached 29 and it slowed down because I had a nearly full DU4 base so people decided to step back and hit the weaker levels instead of me... Play through it until you reach level 45-48 and people won't hit you as much... (Sure I get levelled but meh, that's why it's a Battle and a Pirate game named Battle Pirates)...
    Changing the thread title to 'Fun Ideas with the Destroyer', in order to be more accurate. And the way I see it, if you want to futz around with this thing, Engine 3 is mandatory.

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  • assain186
    assain186
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    Joined May 2012 Posts: 82
    The lvl's have not changed much for the old 29 and above, but i see its made a huge difference to low lvls building up! lvl29,30 of old suck it up your the farms for us high lvl's. To bad so sad!!!!!
  • Leroy Thomas
    Leroy Thomas
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 250
    ROBNTHROB wrote: »
    When I was an old lvl 29 I could stop a 30 to 33. I few 33s got into my base but I couldn't stop a 34. 34s would have back to back killer fleets but that's what they do. As long as your online you can swap out base guards during the attacks and also empty out your Whz. You have to make it so the other player would not brother you and not worth his time. Unless you run your mouth like I do and they do it cause they are mad at you. Lol

    Most people at level 48+ so old 31+ don't hit bases for res. If they want res either they go hit a few salvages or if they are in an alliance they share between each other. I haven't hit a base for just res since I was an old level 29.
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  • smalle
    smalle
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    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 14
    its getting more and more a version of whining pirates :cool:

    new rules: whine first ask questions later....getting old tho :p
  • wpointm
    wpointm
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 318
    Lets look at this logicly. I am currently a level 48 about to jump to 49. I was an old level 31. So under the old system I could hit anyone level 26 up to 36. I only have two raid hulls. Cuda and BC. No Dread X, SC, Goliath, or any other wonderful ship. When the system changed those who were level 26/27 I could no longer hit. They are now level 38 or 39 or around there. So for one the new system actually protects lower players longer. Now if you are getting your base smashed several times a week it's most likely one of two things. Either you pissed someone off or you keep really fat WHs full of res. So if you can't really defend yourself here are a few things you can do.

    1. Keep your WHs low when not bubbled. Yes this sucks but res are easy to get and most players aren't going to level your base if it costs them more then they get.

    2. Find some powerful friends to help. Get a high level friend to level their base.

    3. Move sectors. This probably isn't that great an idea because high level players jump around so much anyways it won't matter.

    4. Make them think you quit playing. This involved not even logging on to BP for at least a week. They will level your base and when the bubble pops come back and see a leveled base still. After a few checks they will assume you quit and most likely un bookmark you.

    I have used all these except moveing sectors. Sure my base gets leveled from time to time but I try to make it not worth the effort and thus far the only fleets to get in have been some dread X.

    Over all this new system has in fact offered me less targets then before and is protecting lower players longer then the old system. So if you all want I have no problem going back to that one... lol
  • Occams Razor
    Occams Razor
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 1,228
    Amazing how no matter how many times you explain that it's no different they just keep moaning it's not fair.

    I'm sure all the complaining went on about being smashed before the new level system.......right?.....Right???

    If its the same and no different, whys it coming up now AFTER the new level system being implemented......
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  • Magic Bunny
    Magic Bunny
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 17,465
    they always moaned, even when hit by their own levels
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  • Di_MaLuKo
    Di_MaLuKo
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 11
    For all those people that said, "it was the same under the old system and you could still get hit blah,blah.blah..." ... I don't give a crap, I didn't really play under the old system and don't care about it. What I do care about is that everything is great (relatively speaking) up until level 40 where you can attack within 5 levels of your base (Old system or new system , who cares, the numbers are semantics only). You can actually defend your base somewhat and there is a semblance of game balance. Then all of a sudden, I hit level 40 and suddenly the entire game opens up to me and I instantly get smashed by level 50+'s. WTF?? I have absolutely no chance to defend no matter how much I try and increase my base defences. What is the incentive to play anymore?? The attraction to playing before level 40 was that there was some skill and thought involved in building up my fleets and base and I could see the results because I was successfully defending my base a good chunk of the time. Now, what's the point? I will still get steamrolled no matter what. And don't tell tell me I should have known to build up my base. I play alone and hardly read the forum. I didn't even know that at level 40, you get opened up to everyone higher. I shouldn't have to pay so dearly for who knows how long to try and build up my base... and it won't matter anyway, cause I would still get demolished by a level 60 fleet.. so who cares? You should only be able to attack within 5 levels period!! At any time!! Who was the genius that decided game balance didn't matter at the higher level?? Brutal!! And for those people who are level 50+ and don't seem to have many targets, deal with it! It's a pyramid, there are smaller numbers at the top, that's reality. Don't like it? Start over. Or maybe, just maybe, if the players in the 40's don't get smashed everyday, they will actually rise in level faster and you will have company up there sooner rather than later. Brutal!! My passion to play has just been destroyed and I'm doubtful if I'm gonna come back since there is no point with this level system now.

    I agree !!! with Dennis Suko !!!
  • Kickass BDS
    Kickass BDS
    Incursion Leader
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 1,426
    it is completely unfair lvl 40 players are beeing smashed by lvl 66 how come ??
    it should have a bracket as bfore so higher level players let smaller players grown up
    the way it is set up more and more lvl 40 - 47 players are goona leave the game
    that is stupid :confused::rolleyes::confused::rolleyes::confused::rolleyes::p

    the reason they changed it is so that high level players actually have people to hit. by the old lvls, if you were a 32, there should be no difference between that base and a lvl 36 or higher. therefore it makes sense to open up the hitting ranges. they drew the line at the old 29, which was too low. it should be bumped up to the old 31.
    ps: stop your crying
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  • Fkitol
    Fkitol
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    Joined May 2012 Posts: 23
    For all those people that said, "it was the same under the old system and you could still get hit blah,blah.blah..." ... I don't give a crap, I didn't really play under the old system and don't care about it. What I do care about is that everything is great (relatively speaking) up until level 40 where you can attack within 5 levels of your base (Old system or new system , who cares, the numbers are semantics only). You can actually defend your base somewhat and there is a semblance of game balance. Then all of a sudden, I hit level 40 and suddenly the entire game opens up to me and I instantly get smashed by level 50+'s. WTF?? I have absolutely no chance to defend no matter how much I try and increase my base defences. What is the incentive to play anymore?? The attraction to playing before level 40 was that there was some skill and thought involved in building up my fleets and base and I could see the results because I was successfully defending my base a good chunk of the time. Now, what's the point? I will still get steamrolled no matter what. And don't tell tell me I should have known to build up my base. I play alone and hardly read the forum. I didn't even know that at level 40, you get opened up to everyone higher. I shouldn't have to pay so dearly for who knows how long to try and build up my base... and it won't matter anyway, cause I would still get demolished by a level 60 fleet.. so who cares? You should only be able to attack within 5 levels period!! At any time!! Who was the genius that decided game balance didn't matter at the higher level?? Brutal!! And for those people who are level 50+ and don't seem to have many targets, deal with it! It's a pyramid, there are smaller numbers at the top, that's reality. Don't like it? Start over. Or maybe, just maybe, if the players in the 40's don't get smashed everyday, they will actually rise in level faster and you will have company up there sooner rather than later. Brutal!! My passion to play has just been destroyed and I'm doubtful if I'm gonna come back since there is no point with this level system now.

    yes the way it goes there is not gonna be any medium level players in this game and then the big fish will get bored and stop pay glitcheye then they may pay any attention to this **** lmao
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  • Gainn
    Gainn
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Aug 2010 Posts: 867
    PAX_DI wrote: »
    Why, a level 59 player can attack a player of level 46, and level 46 player can attack a maximum level 40 player? This is not unfair to convey players between 40 and 50?

    still the fact remains that 46 (31) could have been hit by 59 (35) before the update.
    You complain about losing easy targets low down.. so its ok for you to hit weaker players, but not for anyone else above you?

    maybe you shoulda worked on that farm of yours before you went and built the shiny shizzle.. ;)
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    sheranraj wrote: »
    if i get banned I am gonna quit playing this game..
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