The Ultimate Guide to War Commander

  • wb6vpm
    wb6vpm
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 279
    nice one Lars! and congrats on your 10,000th post!
    Congratulations, you've raised your level and can now be attacked by people who've raised their level by getting better stuff to kick your **** with.
    You are screwed.
    War Commander

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  • CRY_TIME
    CRY_TIME
    Potential Threat
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 99
    Really good guide!
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    Name : BIZZ-NASTY
    Level : 32



    C'MON MAN!
  • Richard Cheeseman
    Richard Cheeseman
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 374
    Great guide and very helpful
  • Michael Dang
    Michael Dang
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 357
    great guide very insightful!
  • Mario Velazquez
    Mario Velazquez
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 1
    I was looking for a way to make and place mines. I just got the buiilding up and have no clue as to how to place or produce them. Can you help? Thanks.
  • LarsB
    LarsB
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 15,313
    I was looking for a way to make and place mines. I just got the buiilding up and have no clue as to how to place or produce them. Can you help? Thanks.
    follow the link to the base building guide and there's a mine section in there...
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  • Final_Vengeance
    Final_Vengeance
    Greenhorn
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 8
    Thanks for posting this. I send direct players here instead of the "field manual."
  • LarsB
    LarsB
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 15,313
    What happened? Why was everything destickied?
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  • FieryLight
    FieryLight
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2011 Posts: 7,375
    LarsB wrote: »
    What happened? Why was everything destickied?

    When there gets to be so many stickies, they don't seem as important anymore. So they unstickied everything and made one big thread compiling all the greatest guides.
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  • Michael Dang
    Michael Dang
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 357
    no why would i?
  • Redeemer
    Redeemer
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 3,698
    Nice work Lars
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  • Teratorn PH
    Teratorn PH
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 386
    I think this is the right Damage filter statuses.

    Poor=-50%
    Not Great=-25%
    Ok=0%
    Good=25%
    Best=50%
    commit myurder you peck neck
  • LarsB
    LarsB
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 15,313
    I think this is the right Damage filter statuses.

    Poor=-50%
    Not Great=-25%
    Ok=0%
    Good=25%
    Best=50%
    It's not true. We already know good is 20% better than ok. And i don't take it until you have some proof.
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  • Tom Borland
    Tom Borland
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    Joined May 2011 Posts: 6,413
    Actually, when They changed the Elite Gat truck to do more damage to buildings by 20%, they did so without changing DPS. Therefore each filter would equal 20%

    Can't hit - 0% of total DPS
    Poor - 20% of total DPS
    Not great - 40% of total DPS
    OK - 60% of total DPS
    Good - 80% of total DPS
    Best - 100% of total DPS

    If the difference between two filters is 20% and can't hit is 0% the rest is simple to work out
    GNU Terry Pratchett

  • LarsB
    LarsB
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 15,313
    Actually, when They changed the Elite Gat truck to do more damage to buildings by 20%, they did so without changing DPS. Therefore each filter would equal 20%

    Can't hit - 0% of total DPS
    Poor - 20% of total DPS
    Not great - 40% of total DPS
    OK - 60% of total DPS
    Good - 80% of total DPS
    Best - 100% of total DPS

    If the difference between two filters is 20% and can't hit is 0% the rest is simple to work out
    That seems logical, but still it doesn't tell much. Because there are assumingly also 'armor filters', which give the difference in what amount a unit is affected by different types of attacks like explosives, bullets and tank shells. That should also give the reason why warhawks kill hercs faster than gatlings.
    Also, the flavor texts of units make difference between light vehicles and heavy vehicles, while there is only one damage filter for vehicles.
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  • Tom Borland
    Tom Borland
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 6,413
    LarsB wrote: »
    That seems logical, but still it doesn't tell much. Because there are assumingly also 'armor filters', which give the difference in what amount a unit is affected by different types of attacks like explosives, bullets and tank shells. That should also give the reason why warhawks kill hercs faster than gatlings.
    Also, the flavor texts of units make difference between light vehicles and heavy vehicles, while there is only one damage filter for vehicles.

    Hercs are weird and may possibly be catagorised as a vehicle rather than as an infantry unit (I do remember Kixeye saying that there was some discussion on the subject). Flavour text for the herc says it fires grenades, need I say more?
    GNU Terry Pratchett

  • LarsB
    LarsB
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 15,313
    Hercs are weird and may possibly be catagorised as a vehicle rather than as an infantry unit (I do remember Kixeye saying that there was some discussion on the subject). Flavour text for the herc says it fires grenades, need I say more?

    Still hercs have more health than gats... Even when they are considered vehicles.
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  • Tom Borland
    Tom Borland
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 6,413
    LarsB wrote: »
    Still hercs have more health than gats... Even when they are considered vehicles.

    And ?
    GNU Terry Pratchett

  • FieryLight
    FieryLight
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2011 Posts: 7,375
    And ?

    And so that means there must be some sort of additional hidden damage filter. Or at least, that's what I THINK he's trying to say. And continuing from that, that means we'll never fully understand how this game works (or we will, but we'd always be uncertain).
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  • LarsB
    LarsB
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 15,313
    Niteo wrote: »
    And so that means there must be some sort of additional hidden damage filter. Or at least, that's what I THINK he's trying to say. And continuing from that, that means we'll never fully understand how this game works (or we will, but we'd always be uncertain).

    That's exactly what I wanted to say.
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  • Tom Borland
    Tom Borland
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    Joined May 2011 Posts: 6,413
    LarsB wrote: »
    That's exactly what I wanted to say.

    So, rather than think that the Herc has been re-balanced since it was originally concieved, you think that there's a hidden armour filter that doesn't apply anywhere else?

    Anyone else see the flaw with this?
    GNU Terry Pratchett

  • Upgrader
    Upgrader
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 1,249
    So, rather than think that the Herc has been re-balanced since it was originally concieved, you think that there's a hidden armour filter that doesn't apply anywhere else?

    Anyone else see the flaw with this?

    No.

    Warhawk is "Poor" vs Infantry + Hercules has more health than Gatling Truck = Why does the Hercules die faster to Warhawk?
    War Commander: LVL 33
  • FieryLight
    FieryLight
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2011 Posts: 7,375
    So, rather than think that the Herc has been re-balanced since it was originally concieved, you think that there's a hidden armour filter that doesn't apply anywhere else?

    Anyone else see the flaw with this?

    Yes, that it could be possibly be "that the Herc has been re-balanced since it was originally concieved". However, it's still just as possible that there is a hidden armour filter. In any case, there will always be small things like these that will annoy those trying to figure out the game. One thing that I recently learn about another FB game I play is that their Devs say that they'll never make ANY changes without notifying the players over the forums. I kind of wish KIXEYE would commit to that themselves...
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  • LarsB
    LarsB
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 15,313
    So, rather than think that the Herc has been re-balanced since it was originally concieved, you think that there's a hidden armour filter that doesn't apply anywhere else?

    Anyone else see the flaw with this?

    It also happens with infantry getting hit by tank shells or bombs, they take less damage than the damage filter says.
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  • Mushie
    Mushie
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 28
    Very usefull post thank you very much!!!!
    Not all who wander are lost.
  • UsmcPop-A-Smoke
    UsmcPop-A-Smoke
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jun 2011 Posts: 424
    nice post.... wish you wouldve came along the last time your group passed thru sector 196 to re-visit greeks, just before last event. we couldve had the chance to talk strategy and "test each others bases" (lol, thats good enough reason to attack each other right?) btw, i really liked the screen shot in this guide showing what "tank spreading" means.... because i see a player in the chatbox referring to me LOL!!! that screenshot was taken in sector 196 and "smoke" is short for UsmcPop-A-Smoke. Im no longer in 196, had enough of that place.... too much "xaxaxaxaxaxaxa" and "fack-booooom" in game chat can get very annoying.

    Allan Conklin aka UsmcPop-A-Smoke(32)

    This Sector **** spent time in 99, 107, 160, 14, 196, 96, 224, 206, 322, currently 300
    maybe a few other sectors i passed thru for just 7 days and forgot lol
    Special Units.... no need list em, I have it all, still have some upgrading left on Elite Hellfire, Kondor, Flak Tank, and Honey Badger
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  • LarsB
    LarsB
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 15,313
    AWCJR wrote: »
    nice post.... wish you wouldve came along the last time your group passed thru sector 196 to re-visit greeks, just before last event. we couldve had the chance to talk strategy and "test each others bases" (lol, thats good enough reason to attack each other right?) btw, i really liked the screen shot in this guide showing what "tank spreading" means.... because i see a player in the chatbox referring to me LOL!!! that screenshot was taken in sector 196 and "smoke" is short for UsmcPop-A-Smoke. Im no longer in 196, had enough of that place.... too much "xaxaxaxaxaxaxa" and "fack-booooom" in game chat can get very annoying.

    Allan Conklin aka UsmcPop-A-Smoke(32)

    This Sector **** spent time in 99, 107, 160, 14, 196, 96, 224, 206, 322, currently 300
    maybe a few other sectors i passed thru for just 7 days and forgot lol
    Special Units.... no need list em, I have it all, still have some upgrading left on Elite Hellfire, Kondor, Flak Tank, and Honey Badger
    Alliance: Regulators (former admins and members of Aces High.... we upgraded and left the drama behind)

    Alec Huskey made the screenshot, thank him. :)
    He's Destrroyer
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  • Hoof Ronnie
    Hoof Ronnie
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 10
    how are the points to upgrade counted
  • Rubs0
    Rubs0
    Greenhorn
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 1
    just a quick question if someone can answer please. After lvl 30 does the 4 below and 4 above level still apply?  Can a level 36 attack a level 30?  Would appreciate any help in this please.

    Thanks
  • LarsB
    LarsB
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 15,313
    Rubs0 said:
    just a quick question if someone can answer please. After lvl 30 does the 4 below and 4 above level still apply?  Can a level 36 attack a level 30?  Would appreciate any help in this please.

    Thanks
    No, after lvl 30, that rule does not count anymore. 
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