Damage Protection Rule Changes

  • gixxer
    gixxer
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 216
    i just hope in 12hrs you get to log in and repair in time before you get hit again. Turrets take 6 hours to repair fully.


  • Striped Wolf
    Striped Wolf
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    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 26
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    Greeting Captains, we’ve received substantial feedback from the Community that the current Damage Protection rules foster an environment that encourages “Buddy Bubbling.” We gone back to the drawing table and developed a new Damage Protection System that we hope balances the game for everyone. Read the details below and we look forward to reading your thoughts.

    Why change the Damage Protection rules?
    With the current set of rules, players are able to indefinitely hide behind the damage protection bubble by using the “Buddy Bubble” exploit. Obviously, this is not the desired game experience, and a tweak to the rules can prevent it.

    Proposed New Damage Protection Rules
    Under the new system, there will be four different instances (two different situations) in which a player’s base would receive Damage Protection:
    • When a base has suffered 25% - 49% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 12 hours of Damage Protection.
    • When a base has suffered 50% - 74% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 24 hours of Damage Protection.
    • When a base has suffered 75% - 100% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 36 hours of Damage Protection.
    • When a base has been attacked 8 times in four hours (but suffered less than 25% damage), the base will receive 1 hour of Damage Protection.
    For the last rule of Damage Protection, we feel it’s still necessary to allow players the one-hour of protection for those that are repeatedly getting their docks hit with rockets and/or snipers (SFB3). Also, if you attack another player’s fleets or base, the number of attacks made against you within the past four hours will be reset to zero and remove the bubble from your base (if already under Damage Protection).

    Q: I need to buddy bubble so I can build/upgrade my buildings; how will I make any progress?
    A: There’s no challenge in a game where players are immune to penalties. Suffering delays to build times is part of the game; however, there are things that you can do such as relocating to a sector that does not have as much base hitting, or join an alliance where other players will take you under their wing.

    Q: Will you be changing how long it takes for certain buildings to repair like the Dock or the Launchpad?
    A: Currently there are no plans to change the repair times for any buildings; however, after the new Damage Protection System goes live, we will closely monitor the situation and see if any changes need to be made.

    Q: My Dock is going to get pummeled all the time; how will I be able to launch my fleets?
    A: If players are plotting against you, recruit some allies or join an existing group. Players will be much less likely to continuously attack your dock if they know that your allies will retaliate against them. There’s strength in numbers.

    How About trying to sort this **** its starting to realy fck me off all these **** BUDDY BUBBLING each other at lvl 33

    You attacked James C
    (NorCal)
    (138619,317)
    (Userid: 2000408)

    taking a friendly from this player


    Colin H (sparrow)
    Attacked
    (138640,307)
    (Userid: 900952)
    and these **** come hit 5 lower and give friendlys to each other well how about this SWAG and shitseye fcking sort the bubble crap or i wont spend anouther fcking penny on this robbing fcking game or hey who gives a **** now i just fcking bubble all my friends and see who crys then
    FORSAKEN u stink u chicken **** fckers
  • Zero.X
    Zero.X
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    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 177
    For the last rule of Damage Protection, we feel it’s still necessary to allow players the one-hour of protection for those that are repeatedly getting their docks hit with rockets and/or snipers (SFB3). Also, if you attack another player’s fleets or base, the number of attacks made against you within the past four hours will be reset to zero and remove the bubble from your base (if already under Damage Protection).

    What if your out collecting salvages and your bubbled and a player decides to attack your fleet? then you lose bubble so they can hit you? doesn't sound good to me. please remove the fleet vs fleet drops bubble that you have proposed

    Overall this sounds like a good step in the right direction but i think it needs more tweaking maybe just reduce the 48 hr bubble to 36 and reduce dock repair time for those being sniped or rocketed, Please get the Alliance feature going before you make this change cause right now your buddies can't do squat to stop an attacker from hitting. it is very limited to what your friends can actually do to save your bacon.

    what about that drydock that you have been promising us Kixeye that would be nice and also the alliance feature??????
    Maverik_X , W.A.R. Alliance.

  • Josie Wells
    Josie Wells
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 154
    Have they changed the damage protection rules yet? Just had 2 level 33 players w/ 3 different raid fleets gang up on my base to hit it 6 times in 8 minutes along w/ using 2 rockets before the 1 got in.
  • Thomas Higgs
    Thomas Higgs
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jun 2010 Posts: 660
    so when exactly with these new damage rules take effect?
  • DEADP00L
    DEADP00L
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 1,056
    The M wrote: »
    Sounds good enough for me. But I still don't see the need in the 4th rule though.
    Just one rocket every 4hrs will keep you out of the game so they only ever have to use one of those 8 attacks every 4hrs. So the rule seems pointless and therefore unneeded.

    Alternatively this will never put a final end to buddy bubbles. People will just start to buddy bubble each other by doing 25% damage to the defenses to give them 12hrs DP. But that comes with the problem that they won't be able to give each other bubbles without taking damage.
    Just put your stuff on the outside give each other 24 hour bubbles no pain all gain. As long as there is damage protection you will always have bubble buddies. Start banning people who abuse it and it will end.
    ...Thus sayeth Magic bunny so it must be true. You are as likable and have as much credibility as what I find on my toilet paper after wiping my **** when I take a "Magic bunny".


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  • asskicker
    asskicker
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 503
    Just put your stuff on the outside give each other 24 hour bubbles no pain all gain. As long as there is damage protection you will always have bubble buddies. Start banning people who abuse it and it will end.


    id give them 3 warning first is a 24 hour suspension 2nd warning is 1 week suspension 3rd warning is permante ban id say after the second time people would stop buddy bubbles lol
    Noobs stop making stupid idiotic post and let the know it alls do the talking lmao have a nice day. :D:lol::)
  • YESIASKEDTHAT
    YESIASKEDTHAT
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    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 241
    We should be able to record the buddy bubbles and get these people suspended or banned, it needs to end. There are people in sector 284 that live under a buddy bubble. And yes Jack Sparrow, you know who you are.
  • jaycee
    jaycee
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    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 130
    We should be able to record the buddy bubbles and get these people suspended or banned, it needs to end. There are people in sector 284 that live under a buddy bubble. And yes Jack Sparrow, you know who you are.

    You want to suspend people that want to play the game without PvP ??


    I enjoy this game just doing salvages, working on my ships and waiting for the next raid. I have no interest in PvP, yet still enjoy the game (and coin some during the raids). The large number of people that buddy bubble tells me that there are a LOT of people like me out there that enjoy the game as it is.


    Allow non-PvP switch (with very long cool down times if you attack someone, days). Meaning, you do break your non-PvP status, you a free target for "X" number of days and any time you initiate an attack your timer starts again. That way you have the non-PvP'rs able to stay non-PvP and the current abusers (hit someone and then bubble to hide) will be eliminated.
  • Captain Crapalot
    Captain Crapalot
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    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 293
    jaycee wrote: »
    You want to suspend people that want to play the game without PvP ??


    I enjoy this game just doing salvages, working on my ships and waiting for the next raid. I have no interest in PvP, yet still enjoy the game (and coin some during the raids). The large number of people that buddy bubble tells me that there are a LOT of people like me out there that enjoy the game as it is.


    Allow non-PvP switch (with very long cool down times if you attack someone, days). Meaning, you do break your non-PvP status, you a free target for "X" number of days and any time you initiate an attack your timer starts again. That way you have the non-PvP'rs able to stay non-PvP and the current abusers (hit someone and then bubble to hide) will be eliminated.

    I agree with you, but suspect that that is why they sell long bubbles. So that might be the end of your GOOD idea.
  • wichart
    wichart
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    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 224
    fantastic

    nice 1 kix

    just a small idea though

    for bubbles resulting from damage, why not have the timer start when the repair button is pressed?

    that way dead bases will be perma bubbled.



    I love this idea! It is so frustrating to wake up in the morning to a cratered base then discover in the battle log that I got hit half an hour after I went to bed. Now I've lost 6-8 hours of time on research and upgrades, not including the time penalty we incur for some reason on a building damaged during an upgrade. The upgrade time on my Naval Lab (going lvl 9 to 10) went from 6 days 10 hours to 7 days 4 hours after I repaired from getting hit this morning. WTF? Anyway, back on topic. Personally, I think repairs should start automatically as soon as the attack ends. But if you're not going to do that, then at least don't start the bubble timer until I start repairing. That seems fair.
    Started on 7/17/2012.
  • wichart
    wichart
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    We should be able to record the buddy bubbles and get these people suspended or banned, it needs to end. There are people in sector 284 that live under a buddy bubble. And yes Jack Sparrow, you know who you are.


    If Kixeye REALLY wanted to get rid of buddy bubbles, they wouldn't sell them in the Trading Post. I'm just sayin'... ;-)

    One thing that might (might) have a positive impact is changing the rules regarding which levels can attack a base. I say allow anyone below the bases's level to attack it, but only up to 3 levels higher than the base (instead of the current 5). Maybe that would have to be on a sliding scale of some sort so that it doesn't completely keep the ultra-high level players from being able to attack. There's a much bigger difference between a 25 and a 30 than there is between a 33 and a 38. Or maybe we just need to convince the 30-somethings to quit being **** by only attacking players 5 levels lower than them. Where is the challenge in sending dreads or strike cruisers against a base with level 3 walls, turrets, and weapons, and maybe a fleet of levis or battle barges for defense? Or maybe we need to do away with the 500% rule for base hits. If an attacker can only take a total of about 5 million res from me, and he has to bubble me in order to get to my warehouses and OP, I can live with that. That would definitely cut down on buddy bubbles for players in the mid- to upper-20s who are desperately trying to acquire 20+ million of each res in order to get howie 4s or OP 5.

    If you really want to cut down on buddy bubbles, you have to reduce the demand, not the supply.
    Started on 7/17/2012.
  • gixxer
    gixxer
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 216
    Guess e wont be sleeping now .. lol better get up to repair in time :D
    a sht got real.jpg


  • Lazz
    Lazz
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  • Altonator
    Altonator
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 1,811
    this is a great idea all around now u will get 8 tries t hit th base wich means 6 tries t sink th guard
  • living to live
    living to live
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 3
    I feel for some of players that don't play that often or new players that are trying to learn the game the new rules are obsered. If you want to help make the rules where some these players would rath hit the little guy because they have no guts to hit the bigger guys. You also have players that do not want to join an alliance because alliance have a thing about making their own rules and act like they own the game and everyone else can go away or play their way. I also feel that it sounds like by making certain rules like above you are forcing some players to leave the game. If you want to help players that dont play anymore remove their bases of the water.

    One thing i would also like to say if you are looking at water and the bases and boats it is called a CHART not a map. Thanks
  • Trogar
    Trogar
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 13,085
    I feel for some of players that don't play that often or new players that are trying to learn the game the new rules are obsered. If you want to help make the rules where some these players would rath hit the little guy because they have no guts to hit the bigger guys. You also have players that do not want to join an alliance because alliance have a thing about making their own rules and act like they own the game and everyone else can go away or play their way. I also feel that it sounds like by making certain rules like above you are forcing some players to leave the game. If you want to help players that dont play anymore remove their bases of the water.

    One thing i would also like to say if you are looking at water and the bases and boats it is called a CHART not a map. Thanks

    You obviously haven't been playing this game very long, or are one of the "buddy" bubble players. The ABUSE of this feature of the game is what this thread and its changes are about. READ the post.

    It's a map. Nautical charts contain grids, lines of longitude and latitude, etc...
  • Matt Greaves
    Matt Greaves
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    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 163
    wichart wrote: »
    If Kixeye REALLY wanted to get rid of buddy bubbles, they wouldn't sell them in the Trading Post. I'm just sayin'... ;-)

    One thing that might (might) have a positive impact is changing the rules regarding which levels can attack a base. I say allow anyone below the bases's level to attack it, but only up to 3 levels higher than the base (instead of the current 5). Maybe that would have to be on a sliding scale of some sort so that it doesn't completely keep the ultra-high level players from being able to attack. There's a much bigger difference between a 25 and a 30 than there is between a 33 and a 38. Or maybe we just need to convince the 30-somethings to quit being **** by only attacking players 5 levels lower than them. Where is the challenge in sending dreads or strike cruisers against a base with level 3 walls, turrets, and weapons, and maybe a fleet of levis or battle barges for defense? Or maybe we need to do away with the 500% rule for base hits. If an attacker can only take a total of about 5 million res from me, and he has to bubble me in order to get to my warehouses and OP, I can live with that. That would definitely cut down on buddy bubbles for players in the mid- to upper-20s who are desperately trying to acquire 20+ million of each res in order to get howie 4s or OP 5.

    If you really want to cut down on buddy bubbles, you have to reduce the demand, not the supply.

    i second this motion as im a lvl 28 close to 29 and getting hit bye **** head that are 32 like wtf i had 15 mill each res going for my hh unlock go bed get up owand what ya know a lvl 32 with outrages hh fleet flatten my lvl 28 base and kill every thing in there path

    thanks to th lvl 33-34 players in my sector for the leave the little guy alone rule and went to his sector and flattened him

    if ya a 30 hit 29 -31 if ya 32 hit a 31-33 not a lvl 28 trying to get his base moveing U WONT HAVE ANY ONE PLAY THIS GAME IF THE BULL SHIZ LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME

    7 TIMES LVL 32S HAVE HIT ME IN 2 WEEKS YES 1 EVERY2 DAYS 1DAY 14 HOUR REP SO I HEAL AND GET HIT GET FKED
  • Sayuri
    Sayuri
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    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 44
    i second this motion as im a lvl 28 close to 29 and getting hit bye **** head that are 32 like wtf i had 15 mill each res going for my hh unlock go bed get up owand what ya know a lvl 32 with outrages hh fleet flatten my lvl 28 base and kill every thing in there path

    thanks to th lvl 33-34 players in my sector for the leave the little guy alone rule and went to his sector and flattened him

    if ya a 30 hit 29 -31 if ya 32 hit a 31-33 not a lvl 28 trying to get his base moveing U WONT HAVE ANY ONE PLAY THIS GAME IF THE BULL SHIZ LIKE THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME

    7 TIMES LVL 32S HAVE HIT ME IN 2 WEEKS YES 1 EVERY2 DAYS 1DAY 14 HOUR REP SO I HEAL AND GET HIT GET FKED

    When are you people going to learn? KIXEYE does not care if you have no time to repair before being leveled again. The whole idea is to make you pay money to buy a long term protection bubble. If they really cared about the non-paying players, they would change the rules. KIXEYE tells you to join an alliance. What do you think a buddy bubble is? It's two or more people who have joined together to help each other out. They bubble each other so that they can repair, build, and/or research without being constantly hit by bullies from other sectors. This is an alliance, even if it's an unspoken one. Yet KIXEYE wants to take this alliance away, just to make money.

    The bottom line is this. KIXEYE is a business. If your not paying, their not making money. KIXEYE is going to keep changing the rules in what ever way they want to force you to pay. If a one hour bubble isn't long enough to repair, you'll have to pay for a longer bubble. If you can't do a buddy bubble, you'll have to buy a bubble. It's as simple as that. It doesn't matter if the little guy and those who can not afford to pay complain. These rule changes will be put in place and you will have to "pay to play". If this causes you to quit playing, no problem. KIXEYE just sits back and waits for the next sucker who is willing to fork out their paycheck.

    One more thing. Try hitting the people who are saying they love the changes. See how fast they coin their repairs. KIXEYE loves coiner bullies. It's coiner bullies who basically make their paychecks possible.
  • Trav
    Trav
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 5
    Please help, i can not view full screen at all anymore, i could when you just changed it so you can type in full screen, that was great, but since ive pressed ESC that 1 time i havent been able to use full screen once,,, any ideas how this is fixed?
  • Clint_Eastwood-TBH
    Clint_Eastwood-TBH
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    Joined May 2012 Posts: 222
    Just give a bubble that last as long as repairs (like already been said) and starts repairs right away.

    oh no wait, only players would win from this... nothing for kixeyes pocketS :(
  • Thomas Higgs
    Thomas Higgs
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jun 2010 Posts: 660
    if ur tired of getting leveld then redesign your base and quit whining. I keep getting hit by leve 33+ and im level 31 yet they dont get very far in my base...hm why is that? I dont waste my time here whining about getting leveled I instead look to see what I can change or improve and where. All it takes is some common sense and I do not even have an inside gurad fleet that keeps me in the good. It is all my base layout.
  • Thomas Higgs
    Thomas Higgs
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    Joined Jun 2010 Posts: 660
    I recommend maxthon 3 google chrome is junk. maxthon 3 has always allowed full screen chat thanks to the pop out feature.
  • curly201
    curly201
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    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 52
    Notice that the players who always say "All you need to do is build a better base" are always level 30+, with DU4, VM4s and all the other high end stuff? They've also been playing long enough to have most or all the good BPs. Give me all that stuff and I'll build a base that'll hold off most attacks too. But take what I have available right now and try building a base that will hold off a fleet of dread x's or strike cruisers. Piece of cake? Yeah, right.
  • Weresquirrel
    Weresquirrel
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 9,977
    curly201 wrote: »
    Notice that the players who always say "All you need to do is build a better base" are always level 30+, with DU4, VM4s and all the other high end stuff? They've also been playing long enough to have most or all the good BPs. Give me all that stuff and I'll build a base that'll hold off most attacks too. But take what I have available right now and try building a base that will hold off a fleet of dread x's or strike cruisers. Piece of cake? Yeah, right.

    Hear, hear. There isn't a level 27 player in the game who can withstand an assault from the average level 32 player.

    Kixeye has also talked about changing the level system and implementing alliances. They would be wise to implement at least one of those solutions, with a team reinforcement option if things go the alliance route, and get it running smoothly before altering the current bubble system.
  • Captain Crapalot
    Captain Crapalot
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    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 293
    Sayuri wrote: »
    When are you people going to learn? KIXEYE does not care if you have no time to repair before being leveled again. The whole idea is to make you pay money to buy a long term protection bubble. If they really cared about the non-paying players, they would change the rules. KIXEYE tells you to join an alliance. What do you think a buddy bubble is? It's two or more people who have joined together to help each other out. They bubble each other so that they can repair, build, and/or research without being constantly hit by bullies from other sectors. This is an alliance, even if it's an unspoken one. Yet KIXEYE wants to take this alliance away, just to make money.

    The bottom line is this. KIXEYE is a business. If your not paying, their not making money. KIXEYE is going to keep changing the rules in what ever way they want to force you to pay. If a one hour bubble isn't long enough to repair, you'll have to pay for a longer bubble. If you can't do a buddy bubble, you'll have to buy a bubble. It's as simple as that. It doesn't matter if the little guy and those who can not afford to pay complain. These rule changes will be put in place and you will have to "pay to play". If this causes you to quit playing, no problem. KIXEYE just sits back and waits for the next sucker who is willing to fork out their paycheck.

    One more thing. Try hitting the people who are saying they love the changes. See how fast they coin their repairs. KIXEYE loves coiner bullies. It's coiner bullies who basically make their paychecks possible.

    Me agree, BUT it is severely shortsighted cause bullies need someone to bully, and that is the free player. Not even small or moderate players are that willing to be bullied. The game pretty much dies for a level 34 free player and while there are always new free players to fill in, the gap continues to widen for the top players/payers and they gets bored. So in the long run it is bad for the game. Not our problem though.
  • RyujiThePirate
    RyujiThePirate
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    NOTE: Make sure you've read the rules for posting in this forum: http://forums.kixeye.com/showthread.php?t=185189 . Also be sure to read this post in it's entirety before you reply. Any posts that do not comply with the forum rules, will be promptly removed.

    Greeting Captains, we’ve received substantial feedback from the Community that the current Damage Protection rules foster an environment that encourages “Buddy Bubbling.” We gone back to the drawing table and developed a new Damage Protection System that we hope balances the game for everyone. Read the details below and we look forward to reading your thoughts.

    Why change the Damage Protection rules?
    With the current set of rules, players are able to indefinitely hide behind the damage protection bubble by using the “Buddy Bubble” exploit. Obviously, this is not the desired game experience, and a tweak to the rules can prevent it.

    Proposed New Damage Protection Rules
    Under the new system, there will be four different instances (two different situations) in which a player’s base would receive Damage Protection:
    • When a base has suffered 25% - 49% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 12 hours of Damage Protection.
    • When a base has suffered 50% - 74% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 24 hours of Damage Protection.
    • When a base has suffered 75% - 100% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 36 hours of Damage Protection.
    • When a base has been attacked 8 times in four hours (but suffered less than 25% damage), the base will receive 1 hour of Damage Protection.
    For the last rule of Damage Protection, we feel it’s still necessary to allow players the one-hour of protection for those that are repeatedly getting their docks hit with rockets and/or snipers (SFB3). Also, if you attack another player’s fleets or base, the number of attacks made against you within the past four hours will be reset to zero and remove the bubble from your base (if already under Damage Protection).

    Q: I need to buddy bubble so I can build/upgrade my buildings; how will I make any progress?
    A: There’s no challenge in a game where players are immune to penalties. Suffering delays to build times is part of the game; however, there are things that you can do such as relocating to a sector that does not have as much base hitting, or join an alliance where other players will take you under their wing.

    Q: Will you be changing how long it takes for certain buildings to repair like the Dock or the Launchpad?
    A: Currently there are no plans to change the repair times for any buildings; however, after the new Damage Protection System goes live, we will closely monitor the situation and see if any changes need to be made.

    Q: My Dock is going to get pummeled all the time; how will I be able to launch my fleets?
    A: If players are plotting against you, recruit some allies or join an existing group. Players will be much less likely to continuously attack your dock if they know that your allies will retaliate against them. There’s strength in numbers.

    Boot the 4th rule if your dock can be sniped by SFB3 then you just have to change it if it is hittable your design just sucks. We all had to change when it came out if you have not changed yet then that is your own fault Swag seriously if people have a snipable dock they just need to move it or redesign why give people a handicap like that put the things you do not want in a safe spot that is how it always has been the hit number of times=1h bubble should just be removed it has become obsolete
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  • A Ernie BP
    A Ernie BP
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 925
    On the whole it looks good. I like the idea that hitting a fleet as well removes the bubble this was long over due.
    As damage to the dock seems to be a concern of most maybe you could add either an armor slot like on the turrets with different armor for different missiles or maybe an anti missile gun that would reduce the damage caused by a missile.
    It's not that I don't think kixeye are not on the same page it's just that the players are reading Sun Tzu Art of war and kixeye are reading Noddies big book of war.
    We want the Dry Dock NOW! http://www.facebook.com/groups/184955281636155/ We need YOU! The game needs YOU!

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  • cannonball
    cannonball
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    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 15
    It has been 1 month since this was posted. Are you going to make these changes or drag it out for another month. DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • curly201
    curly201
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    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 52
    Boot the 4th rule if your dock can be sniped by SFB3 then you just have to change it if it is hittable your design just sucks. We all had to change when it came out if you have not changed yet then that is your own fault Swag seriously if people have a snipable dock they just need to move it or redesign why give people a handicap like that put the things you do not want in a safe spot that is how it always has been the hit number of times=1h bubble should just be removed it has become obsolete


    Let's see. Yep. Level 33. I rest my case.
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