If you put the new level system in... then go for it! (it will keep them **** base hitters from hitting people that cant defend against them) although you might make it -5 +10 or higher
The bubble times should be left alone though, there isnt enough time to repair your base before it gets flattened again... and you know that will be exploited by the pirates You have created.
also, you really need to do something about the hackers, (just ran into another low level player with dreads) and the people that Buy your protection from being banned!
Hmm im on the fence with this. It is 100% on what we had.
Maybe with attacking fleets bubble pop. Make it only happen if u attack while someone is offline. That way we could still engage in FvF battles if the player is online.
I'm NOT a fan of buddy bubbles, but sometime's bubbles are necessary to protect from bullies. All Swag is saying, is join an alliance or move to a different sec. WHAT GOOD WILL THAT DO? if you are being hit by a bully, you CAN"T move, because your op has been flattened. and your friends can't help because they will lose their bubble's............
Current Level 63 I don't understand your need for constant drama........its only a click to repair.
No, YOU have to be the one that initiates combat. Someone attacking you will not pop the bubble.
My problem with it is the attacking fleet rule. If you send out a ship to salvage, all anyone has to do is attack your salvage as soon as you come out of battle, and by default, YOU instigated combat to protect your salvage, and what ever bubble you have is gone.......
Current Level 63 I don't understand your need for constant drama........its only a click to repair.
Well if your taking friendly bubbles away, perhaps you should take away the buy-a-bubble as well. You said it yourself, it's a part of the game in which relocating and such is an option. Or are free players no longer a factor in the game. More free players than coiners. And how is that fair to EVERYONE in the game. I've talked to hundreds of people about this and they agree (even the coiners) that the buy-a-bubble should be gone along with friendly bubbling. Game is getting way to one sided for the free players, which in time you will have no more free players which to test your in-game process and feedback on the game. Free players are more of a factor than you guys think, and really should consider this request. Buy a bubble is taking advantage of the protection system as well and should be considered.
It looks good, though I don't know if it's possible, can you link the (8 hits in four hours) rule, to damage to the dock? If the dock is 100% destroyed during the 8 hits then make it a six hour bubble, that way it wouldn't be worth buddy bubbling and if it was serious enough an attack then enough time to repair the dock and start collecting res again. Apart from that it looks good
If you hit a captured salv. and the guy who captured it has a fleet sitting there, that fleet will AUTO_ATTACK you. It will, in other words, INITIATE the attack to protect the salv. No one has to click "attack any **** thing." So I hit a salv. My SWs are sitting there, waiting for the FF fleet to come by and load the salv., and some salv. thief comes by and clicks "attack cargo" my SWs will attack him even if I'm in the can and no where near the PC....they will INITIATE the attack in other words...am I the only person who knows this?
Bottom Line: Bubbles having ANYTHING to do with FvF or vis-versa is a HORRIBLE IDEA.
I hate Buddy bubbles but as a whole this is terrible for the game. Times for repair bubbles are way to low considering huge repair times and the rule about hitting a fleet causing the loss of the bubble is just plain insane. Imagine you havefleets out of the base when it is hit, do you run from other players till your base is repaired so you don't lose your bubble while repairing? And what if you don't have enough reserves to make all needed repairs? Do you want us to lose the repair bubble and get hit again before the base is repaired? You guys listen to the very high level base whiners and want to spoon feed our behinds to them. BAB BAD RULE.
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Kixeye doesn't seem to mind players hiding behind bubbles all the time that are coined. It would seem that this rule change is just to prevent having the same ability for free. It would appear that spending money is your actual 'desired game experience'.
Not having a go at you Mike_G - but you obviously haven't noticed that Cross Eyed has been pushing us into coining if we want to reamin compaetetive in this game for some time now.
This is just another push in that direction.
As someone else said - if Crosseyed want to make this a user pay game - get the F*** off Facebook and start a pay only game - THAT WORKS.
I do not and will not coin these constant glitches.
See? That's just it. Whenever someone gains an "unfair" advantage over the high levels... Ooooo it's a bad thing..
Subs? For real? Okay, lets look at this shall we?
1)Battle Cruiser --- Sub killer
2)Interdictor --- Sub Killer
3)Cuncussive armor for above said ship.
4)Siege torpedoes? You guys reallly need that right???? Oh, for the above ship also..
5)Sonar ---- Duh
6)Laser Targeting ---- We all KNOW why this was introduced.
7) and now dah da da dah daaaaa....
Now you have a magical AURA ship that makes them surface.....
Reaaalllly? Not enough sayeth the mighty DN and SC drivers? What do you need now? An Iwin button? Hows about a Tac-nuke that detonates underwater ships?
Or really, why don't you learn how to drive.
And for gods sake, don't EVEN come to me crying about repair time. My fleet of Stalkers with DU4 have the equivalent of a siege HH fleet... And that's FOUR subs, NOT five ships..
I know this for a fact.
This is not about the high levels. This is about the entire game so that it is fair for all levels.
And yes subs have a higher repair now.. why? Because a large group of idiots abused them and those were low and high levels.
Up until the last last raid maybe 450 people had the Battle Cruiser
And you might want to remember that the torpedoes that were introduced are useable on the subs as well.
Pretty much everything that you just named off is available to EVERY player, if they bother researching and building it.
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My problem with it is the attacking fleet rule. If you send out a ship to salvage, all anyone has to do is attack your salvage as soon as you come out of battle, and by default, YOU instigated combat to protect your salvage, and what ever bubble you have is gone.......
Wrong. If you are salvaging or sitting there, you are guarding the salvage and that is a defensive action. If in doubt look at your battle log it will say "XXXX person ATTACKED you"... that means he or she INITIATED it. Your bubble would be 100% intact.
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"Kicking the crap out of RRs wherever they Frubble"
Wrong. If you are salvaging or sitting there, you are guarding the salvage and that is a defensive action. If in doubt look at your battle log it will say "XXXX person ATTACKED you"... that means he or she INITIATED it. Your bubble would be 100% intact.
I have looked at my battle log....... If I am guarding a salvage, and some one tries to take it, It says I attacked that other person!
Current Level 63 I don't understand your need for constant drama........its only a click to repair.
Worst idea ever. It will mean any mean player ( and there are tons of them ) can keep any building that takes longer than 1 hour to repair and is remotely snipe-able out of commission on a permanent basis.
The buddy bubble is sometimes the only way one can progress. I would rather you guys think about 10 players hit once for a 2 day bubble than the current 1 player hit 10 times for a 2 day bubble. To take it away completely is to kill the free player base imo.
Q: Will you be changing how long it takes for certain buildings to repair like the Dock or the Launchpad?
A: Currently there are no plans to change the repair times for any buildings; however, after the new Damage Protection System goes live, we will closely monitor the situation and see if any changes need to be made.
That's code for "nothing is going to change - get used to it". The only thing that needs tweaking is the launchpad. Why does that have a repair time longer than a day?
Wrong. If you are salvaging or sitting there, you are guarding the salvage and that is a defensive action. If in doubt look at your battle log it will say "XXXX person ATTACKED you"... that means he or she INITIATED it. Your bubble would be 100% intact.
if your fleet is by a salvage you opened and someone tries to take it, YOUR FLEET initiates the attack, thus dropping your bubble.
This is just another win for coiners, who btw, are the ones complaining about 'Buddy Bubbles'. No bubbles for free players but coiners will still be able to buy bubbles, of course.
This is just another win for coiners, who btw, are the ones complaining about 'Buddy Bubbles'. No bubbles for free players but coiners will still be able to buy bubbles, of course.
I agree, and the sad part is that Kixeye is listening to heavy coiners only.... All others are insignificant.
I could easily snipe your dock every hour under this current system for 10 hours if I wanted too. Dont see how this is going to make it easier to snipe your dock.
because after the 10th snipe you just gave him a 2day , with the new system you can come snipe/rocket alternating between the op and dock every hour for ever and never give the person a bubble effectively removing the ability to play the game while would be a lil hard for one person to do on their own group of people can easily do it
whs: 0 res makers: 0 interest in playing bp: 0
Only players that Kix cares about are the coiners, want them to listen more of you gonna need to cut them off of your wallet.
I'm tempted to say you were with the wrong alliance if they do that. But yeah, I know the feeling since I have seen some of the same things happen with Alliances like RRs and others. Looks good on the outside but once you get in.. rotten as can be.
I'd offer you could come to my sector and see how we do things and then decide for yourself if you wanted to join or not..
No, Rumseeker, I have never been in an alliance. For the very reasons I stated earlier. And if you really like kicking RR's, their in 163 right now. Running their mouths and starting crap between players who have been friends and helped each other for quite a while.
h8 all of those. i dont ever buddy bubble except maybe once... im lv 28 and can keep out ff and sometimes hh but thts not the point. when im bored and want 2 keep my bubble i kill fleets. but if my bubble pops i will have absolutely nothing 2 do except pop.and i may be small but i still know tht is a stupid idea making 8 hits in 4 hours and only getting1 hour i mean its not even 25% if u completely bomb out their dock so really u just made it impossible 4 non coiners 2 launch fleets period
The question was, if you are guarding a salvage you opened, who initiates the attack. It used to be the defender of the cargo, but to be sure a buddy of mine and I tried a test of it. The person going AFTER the cargo initiates the attack, so while salvaging if you are protecting an opened salvage, your bubble should not drop as it says you are the defender now. Had to clear this up because several posts were for each, including mine which was wrong. Here is the battle report proof.
I do hate the friendly bubbles. I don't give them or get them.
But I am nervous about the shortened repair time bubble.
Couldn't the bubble timer start after an attack once you hit the repair button? That way if you are away from your computer for work or even a vacation you cannot be attacked again until you're given the chance to repair. Also abandoned bases would be bubbled so you wouldn't waste time attacking them.
The bubble times should be left alone though, there isnt enough time to repair your base before it gets flattened again... and you know that will be exploited by the pirates You have created.
also, you really need to do something about the hackers, (just ran into another low level player with dreads) and the people that Buy your protection from being banned!
Do something, but do it correctly!
Maybe with attacking fleets bubble pop. Make it only happen if u attack while someone is offline. That way we could still engage in FvF battles if the player is online.
I don't understand your need for constant drama........its only a click to repair.
My problem with it is the attacking fleet rule. If you send out a ship to salvage, all anyone has to do is attack your salvage as soon as you come out of battle, and by default, YOU instigated combat to protect your salvage, and what ever bubble you have is gone.......
I don't understand your need for constant drama........its only a click to repair.
you sir ... are a moron.
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Not having a go at you Mike_G - but you obviously haven't noticed that Cross Eyed has been pushing us into coining if we want to reamin compaetetive in this game for some time now.
This is just another push in that direction.
As someone else said - if Crosseyed want to make this a user pay game - get the F*** off Facebook and start a pay only game - THAT WORKS.
I do not and will not coin these constant glitches.
*Sigh* 35 minutes for the rocket build then you have to sail to the base to drop it.. not say I would, just saying.
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"Kicking the crap out of RRs wherever they Frubble"
When are we going to see the new change in protection? It was promised a week ago.
This is not about the high levels. This is about the entire game so that it is fair for all levels.
And yes subs have a higher repair now.. why? Because a large group of idiots abused them and those were low and high levels.
Up until the last last raid maybe 450 people had the Battle Cruiser
And you might want to remember that the torpedoes that were introduced are useable on the subs as well.
Pretty much everything that you just named off is available to EVERY player, if they bother researching and building it.
Lvl 34
Sector 361
ID 1122925
Browser: Firefox
OS: WIndows 7
"Kicking the crap out of RRs wherever they Frubble"
Wrong. If you are salvaging or sitting there, you are guarding the salvage and that is a defensive action. If in doubt look at your battle log it will say "XXXX person ATTACKED you"... that means he or she INITIATED it. Your bubble would be 100% intact.
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"Kicking the crap out of RRs wherever they Frubble"
As some people say, a buddy bubble can hit for just over 25% making them immune damage for 12 hours - this is what i hope your trying to prevent
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I have looked at my battle log....... If I am guarding a salvage, and some one tries to take it, It says I attacked that other person!
I don't understand your need for constant drama........its only a click to repair.
The buddy bubble is sometimes the only way one can progress. I would rather you guys think about 10 players hit once for a 2 day bubble than the current 1 player hit 10 times for a 2 day bubble. To take it away completely is to kill the free player base imo.
That's code for "nothing is going to change - get used to it". The only thing that needs tweaking is the launchpad. Why does that have a repair time longer than a day?
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if your fleet is by a salvage you opened and someone tries to take it, YOUR FLEET initiates the attack, thus dropping your bubble.
Lying isn't exactly a bannable offense
I agree, and the sad part is that Kixeye is listening to heavy coiners only.... All others are insignificant.
Only players that Kix cares about are the coiners, want them to listen more of you gonna need to cut them off of your wallet.
No, Rumseeker, I have never been in an alliance. For the very reasons I stated earlier. And if you really like kicking RR's, their in 163 right now. Running their mouths and starting crap between players who have been friends and helped each other for quite a while.
Lying isn't exactly a bannable offense
But I am nervous about the shortened repair time bubble.
Couldn't the bubble timer start after an attack once you hit the repair button? That way if you are away from your computer for work or even a vacation you cannot be attacked again until you're given the chance to repair. Also abandoned bases would be bubbled so you wouldn't waste time attacking them.
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