Damage Protection Rule Changes

  • Goyan
    Goyan
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 109
    Dunno how constructive this is but .... hell that sounds great ! When is this coming live ? :)
  • salvage
    salvage
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 105
    If you put the new level system in... then go for it! (it will keep them **** base hitters from hitting people that cant defend against them) although you might make it -5 +10 or higher
    The bubble times should be left alone though, there isnt enough time to repair your base before it gets flattened again... and you know that will be exploited by the pirates You have created.
    also, you really need to do something about the hackers, (just ran into another low level player with dreads) and the people that Buy your protection from being banned!

    Do something, but do it correctly!
  • antman
    antman
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 1,293
    Hmm im on the fence with this. It is 100% on what we had.

    Maybe with attacking fleets bubble pop. Make it only happen if u attack while someone is offline. That way we could still engage in FvF battles if the player is online.
  • Azmodan
    Azmodan
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    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 69
    I'm NOT a fan of buddy bubbles, but sometime's bubbles are necessary to protect from bullies. All Swag is saying, is join an alliance or move to a different sec. WHAT GOOD WILL THAT DO? if you are being hit by a bully, you CAN"T move, because your op has been flattened. and your friends can't help because they will lose their bubble's............
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    I don't understand your need for constant drama........its only a click to repair.
  • Azmodan
    Azmodan
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    No, YOU have to be the one that initiates combat. Someone attacking you will not pop the bubble.

    My problem with it is the attacking fleet rule. If you send out a ship to salvage, all anyone has to do is attack your salvage as soon as you come out of battle, and by default, YOU instigated combat to protect your salvage, and what ever bubble you have is gone.......
    Current Level 63
    I don't understand your need for constant drama........its only a click to repair.
  • idohaveaname
    idohaveaname
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 94
    Well if your taking friendly bubbles away, perhaps you should take away the buy-a-bubble as well. You said it yourself, it's a part of the game in which relocating and such is an option. Or are free players no longer a factor in the game. More free players than coiners. And how is that fair to EVERYONE in the game. I've talked to hundreds of people about this and they agree (even the coiners) that the buy-a-bubble should be gone along with friendly bubbling. Game is getting way to one sided for the free players, which in time you will have no more free players which to test your in-game process and feedback on the game. Free players are more of a factor than you guys think, and really should consider this request. Buy a bubble is taking advantage of the protection system as well and should be considered.
    Pretty weak for a level 67. But I try. 
  • Target
    Target
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 4,296
    Am on board with this.
  • Gravy777
    Gravy777
    Greenhorn
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 2
    It looks good, though I don't know if it's possible, can you link the (8 hits in four hours) rule, to damage to the dock? If the dock is 100% destroyed during the 8 hits then make it a six hour bubble, that way it wouldn't be worth buddy bubbling and if it was serious enough an attack then enough time to repair the dock and start collecting res again. Apart from that it looks good
  • Andrew Neville
    Andrew Neville
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 8
    Terry Wolf wrote: »
    If you hit a captured salv. and the guy who captured it has a fleet sitting there, that fleet will AUTO_ATTACK you. It will, in other words, INITIATE the attack to protect the salv. No one has to click "attack any **** thing." So I hit a salv. My SWs are sitting there, waiting for the FF fleet to come by and load the salv., and some salv. thief comes by and clicks "attack cargo" my SWs will attack him even if I'm in the can and no where near the PC....they will INITIATE the attack in other words...am I the only person who knows this?

    Bottom Line: Bubbles having ANYTHING to do with FvF or vis-versa is a HORRIBLE IDEA.

    you sir ... are a moron.
  • Brademus-Krieg
    Brademus-Krieg
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 887
    I hate Buddy bubbles but as a whole this is terrible for the game. Times for repair bubbles are way to low considering huge repair times and the rule about hitting a fleet causing the loss of the bubble is just plain insane. Imagine you havefleets out of the base when it is hit, do you run from other players till your base is repaired so you don't lose your bubble while repairing? And what if you don't have enough reserves to make all needed repairs? Do you want us to lose the repair bubble and get hit again before the base is repaired? You guys listen to the very high level base whiners and want to spoon feed our behinds to them. BAB BAD RULE.
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  • Skarr
    Skarr
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 32
    Mike_G wrote: »
    Kixeye doesn't seem to mind players hiding behind bubbles all the time that are coined. It would seem that this rule change is just to prevent having the same ability for free. It would appear that spending money is your actual 'desired game experience'.

    Not having a go at you Mike_G - but you obviously haven't noticed that Cross Eyed has been pushing us into coining if we want to reamin compaetetive in this game for some time now.
    This is just another push in that direction.
    As someone else said - if Crosseyed want to make this a user pay game - get the F*** off Facebook and start a pay only game - THAT WORKS.
    I do not and will not coin these constant glitches.
  • LUCKY-V
    LUCKY-V
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    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,103
    deleted see below
  • Rumseeker
    Rumseeker
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 2,893
    LUCKY-V wrote: »
    And why would you want to hit someone every 36 mins?

    *Sigh* 35 minutes for the rocket build then you have to sail to the base to drop it.. not say I would, just saying.
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  • Lucky Luke
    Lucky Luke
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 8,422
    WOW, look how old this thread is.

    When are we going to see the new change in protection? It was promised a week ago.
  • Rumseeker
    Rumseeker
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 2,893
    DarkKnight wrote: »
    See? That's just it. Whenever someone gains an "unfair" advantage over the high levels... Ooooo it's a bad thing..


    Subs? For real? Okay, lets look at this shall we?

    1)Battle Cruiser --- Sub killer

    2)Interdictor --- Sub Killer

    3)Cuncussive armor for above said ship.

    4)Siege torpedoes? You guys reallly need that right???? Oh, for the above ship also..

    5)Sonar ---- Duh

    6)Laser Targeting ---- We all KNOW why this was introduced.

    7) and now dah da da dah daaaaa....

    Now you have a magical AURA ship that makes them surface.....


    Reaaalllly? Not enough sayeth the mighty DN and SC drivers? What do you need now? An Iwin button? Hows about a Tac-nuke that detonates underwater ships?


    Or really, why don't you learn how to drive.


    And for gods sake, don't EVEN come to me crying about repair time. My fleet of Stalkers with DU4 have the equivalent of a siege HH fleet... And that's FOUR subs, NOT five ships..


    I know this for a fact.

    This is not about the high levels. This is about the entire game so that it is fair for all levels.

    And yes subs have a higher repair now.. why? Because a large group of idiots abused them and those were low and high levels.

    Up until the last last raid maybe 450 people had the Battle Cruiser

    And you might want to remember that the torpedoes that were introduced are useable on the subs as well.

    Pretty much everything that you just named off is available to EVERY player, if they bother researching and building it.
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  • Rumseeker
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    Azmodan wrote: »
    My problem with it is the attacking fleet rule. If you send out a ship to salvage, all anyone has to do is attack your salvage as soon as you come out of battle, and by default, YOU instigated combat to protect your salvage, and what ever bubble you have is gone.......

    Wrong. If you are salvaging or sitting there, you are guarding the salvage and that is a defensive action. If in doubt look at your battle log it will say "XXXX person ATTACKED you"... that means he or she INITIATED it. Your bubble would be 100% intact.
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  • mark.wright.507464
    mark.wright.507464
    Potential Threat
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 82
    25-49% damage is generally a 6 hour repair - why not make that figure 6 hours protection rather than 12 hours.

    As some people say, a buddy bubble can hit for just over 25% making them immune damage for 12 hours - this is what i hope your trying to prevent
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  • Azmodan
    Azmodan
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    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 69
    Rumseeker wrote: »
    Wrong. If you are salvaging or sitting there, you are guarding the salvage and that is a defensive action. If in doubt look at your battle log it will say "XXXX person ATTACKED you"... that means he or she INITIATED it. Your bubble would be 100% intact.

    I have looked at my battle log....... If I am guarding a salvage, and some one tries to take it, It says I attacked that other person!
    Current Level 63
    I don't understand your need for constant drama........its only a click to repair.
  • Captain Crapalot
    Captain Crapalot
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 293
    Worst idea ever. It will mean any mean player ( and there are tons of them ) can keep any building that takes longer than 1 hour to repair and is remotely snipe-able out of commission on a permanent basis.

    The buddy bubble is sometimes the only way one can progress. I would rather you guys think about 10 players hit once for a 2 day bubble than the current 1 player hit 10 times for a 2 day bubble. To take it away completely is to kill the free player base imo.
  • Adrian Clarke
    Adrian Clarke
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    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 228
    Q: Will you be changing how long it takes for certain buildings to repair like the Dock or the Launchpad?
    A: Currently there are no plans to change the repair times for any buildings; however, after the new Damage Protection System goes live, we will closely monitor the situation and see if any changes need to be made.

    That's code for "nothing is going to change - get used to it". The only thing that needs tweaking is the launchpad. Why does that have a repair time longer than a day?
    Just remember, it's a game. Everything repairs.
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  • scrambled
    scrambled
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    Joined Apr 2011 Posts: 33
    how about this if your base is damaged enough to get a bubble then have the repairs start then and the bubble expire when repairs are done
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  • Occams Razor
    Occams Razor
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    Rumseeker wrote: »
    Wrong. If you are salvaging or sitting there, you are guarding the salvage and that is a defensive action. If in doubt look at your battle log it will say "XXXX person ATTACKED you"... that means he or she INITIATED it. Your bubble would be 100% intact.

    if your fleet is by a salvage you opened and someone tries to take it, YOUR FLEET initiates the attack, thus dropping your bubble.
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  • Paul0
    Paul0
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    Joined Jun 2011 Posts: 4
    This is just another win for coiners, who btw, are the ones complaining about 'Buddy Bubbles'. No bubbles for free players but coiners will still be able to buy bubbles, of course.
  • Goldenhair Mermaid
    Goldenhair Mermaid
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 32
    Paul0 wrote: »
    This is just another win for coiners, who btw, are the ones complaining about 'Buddy Bubbles'. No bubbles for free players but coiners will still be able to buy bubbles, of course.

    I agree, and the sad part is that Kixeye is listening to heavy coiners only.... All others are insignificant.
    GoldenhairMermaid.
  • faytar
    faytar
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Apr 2011 Posts: 775
    I could easily snipe your dock every hour under this current system for 10 hours if I wanted too. Dont see how this is going to make it easier to snipe your dock.
    because after the 10th snipe you just gave him a 2day , with the new system you can come snipe/rocket alternating between the op and dock every hour for ever and never give the person a bubble effectively removing the ability to play the game while would be a lil hard for one person to do on their own group of people can easily do it
    whs: 0 res makers: 0 interest in playing bp: 0
    Only players that Kix cares about are the coiners, want them to listen more of you gonna need to cut them off of your wallet.
  • Sayuri
    Sayuri
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 44
    Rumseeker wrote: »
    I'm tempted to say you were with the wrong alliance if they do that. But yeah, I know the feeling since I have seen some of the same things happen with Alliances like RRs and others. Looks good on the outside but once you get in.. rotten as can be.

    I'd offer you could come to my sector and see how we do things and then decide for yourself if you wanted to join or not..


    No, Rumseeker, I have never been in an alliance. For the very reasons I stated earlier. And if you really like kicking RR's, their in 163 right now. Running their mouths and starting crap between players who have been friends and helped each other for quite a while.
  • MR. ROGERS
    MR. ROGERS
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 275
    h8 all of those. i dont ever buddy bubble except maybe once... im lv 28 and can keep out ff and sometimes hh but thts not the point. when im bored and want 2 keep my bubble i kill fleets. but if my bubble pops i will have absolutely nothing 2 do except pop.and i may be small but i still know tht is a stupid idea making 8 hits in 4 hours and only getting1 hour i mean its not even 25% if u completely bomb out their dock so really u just made it impossible 4 non coiners 2 launch fleets period
  • Joseph Blake
    Joseph Blake
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 546
    If I lose my bubble because I FVF i am done with this game and will spend my money with someone else
  • Occams Razor
    Occams Razor
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    The question was, if you are guarding a salvage you opened, who initiates the attack. It used to be the defender of the cargo, but to be sure a buddy of mine and I tried a test of it. The person going AFTER the cargo initiates the attack, so while salvaging if you are protecting an opened salvage, your bubble should not drop as it says you are the defender now. Had to clear this up because several posts were for each, including mine which was wrong. Here is the battle report proof.
    Test1.jpg
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  • Peaceful
    Peaceful
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 13
    I do hate the friendly bubbles. I don't give them or get them.

    But I am nervous about the shortened repair time bubble.

    Couldn't the bubble timer start after an attack once you hit the repair button? That way if you are away from your computer for work or even a vacation you cannot be attacked again until you're given the chance to repair. Also abandoned bases would be bubbled so you wouldn't waste time attacking them.

    Daily_LLama
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