New Level Structure (Part 2)

  • Aussiebob
    Aussiebob
    Greenhorn
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 15
    This has made it worse for all us players just into the now 40s who are yet to get good fleets and drac ships etc we become farms so i keep no resources.
    Now making it harder to get resources from the fleets makes us even more farms coz the bigger players dont bother to open resources they just open Bases.
    To open salvage now some of the specials will not be available to the smaller players so not only with they have long research and build times will have longer periods to open salvage and repair their fleets. I used to help out but cn no longer as just supplying my own needs is hard.
    I am level 45 and have been out of a Bubble now for maybe a few hrs in the last 6 days aint that great.
    All the changes and raids have all made the biggest and strongest bigger and stronger widening the gap futher and further Put the lower salvage back how it was and in the next raid give a Multipying score for those kitting above their weight so if you hit a salvage with a small fleet and win you get the multiplier (level 20 fleet against 30 typhoon you get 33% increase in what points you win) will encourage the smaller players to have a go at bigger typhoons and give us smaller players with out the big fleets etc to possably get that top prize.
    I will see what happens in the next week if no change i will be out will just check back now and then to see if things get fixed.
  • Per Thalue
    Per Thalue
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 19
    Bottom of the line is swag if u dont change back to the way it was or something similar to that ADT are all moving to your competition tides of fortune , thats 100 bases of which 2 thirds are over level 30 the old system , and especially when u think more about doing changes that puts more money in ur pockets than uthink about fixing all the faults in game , shame on you . Changes that would apply to common sence is helping in the area of lvls (old system 27 to 29) those are the tougest lvls to grow in by far as the can be hit from every base that has du4 , its should be a more equal rising in grades around there cause a lvl 29 can be hit from lvl 34 and down , thats when everyone above has all the gear needed , and ur still struggling to get there , the oncoming raids are not helping as the lvls under 30 still has to play nonstop for 96 hours or coin like hell to be abled to get any prices worth the effort
    Captain ADT lvl 35(61) presently at sector 233 and about to leave game with the whole alliance
  • Per Thalue
    Per Thalue
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 19
    once again swag removes every post that does not agree with him , i posted here a moment ago and my post is gone , what is it with u swag cant i take it if anyone dont agree
  • j4cko56
    j4cko56
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 8
    STILL haven't returned it...wow you are stupid. I've just been flattened for the third time...and i cant do s**t about it because i have no res to upgrade my base...because I cant hit bases to get res, and i cant hit salvs. Plus every time i do get any, i get it all taken again. Thanks a lot KixEye, thanks for not listening to anyone, and ignoring all of your own customers, it's about what WE want, not you, grow up.
  • meykeru-sensei
    meykeru-sensei
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 161
    from the main forum layout:

    Future Features & Feedback

    Read about what's coming up and voice your opinions.


    Really?
    You made this entire section so that people could be made aware of your plans and ideas,so they could voice their opinion in them.
    All very nice but the fact of the matter is that our opinions mean JACK to you.
    Oh yes they do,WHEN WE AGREE WITH YOU.
    From the moment our opinions differ from yours,you either ignore us,brush us aside,or my favorite,call us childish and immature.
    Wether we fill up 200
    Kixeye doesn't want to give coiners a too big advantage.
    :lol: i cant stop laughing

    -Coming Soon-
  • Captain Crapalot
    Captain Crapalot
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    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 293
    This thread should be closed, it has been implemented already and is no more a Future Feature never was a Feedback anyways.....
  • Theoutsider
    Theoutsider
    Greenhorn
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 4
    ok first off i would like to say that in general the new system is a good thing, except for the lvl 28-29 players. you have made it to where we can not move further in the game because every time we lose our bubble we get flattened again. wouldn't be better to let the real high lvl player battle each other? since they should have most of the same things...
  • Jasmine Wellner
    Jasmine Wellner
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1
    I don't think the last change is good. I don't know how u think a 41 can compete with someone 50 and higher. I think u should change the levels again. How can i get anywhere if i'm always getting hit by the bigger people and get flattened.
  • Drax
    Drax
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,719
    RS3 wrote: »
    My apologies, I was quoting "Drax" (page 138) (most likely a kixeye staff or a big time coiner would be my guess.. Have not posted before today, and I guess it shows. It matters not to me what kixeye does, I have allready quit playing and am only reading the forums to laugh at all the kixeye apologists. It is all about money.

    you are an obvious idiot who misses the point. Can you not see there is no reason to have the ranks over 46?

    A lev 87 hits a lev 40 or a le 55 or lev 87 and a lev 45 can do the exact same thing so what is the differential factor here????

    You may as well call yourself a level 500 for all the good it will do..


    And for you information I do not work for KIXEYE - if I did why would i be saying their rank system does not make sense on here??

    NOT EVERY ONE WHO DISSAGREES WITH KIXEYYE WORKS FOR THEM YOU KNOW.
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  • Drax
    Drax
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,719
    RS3 wrote: »
    My apologies, I was quoting "Drax" (page 138) (most likely a kixeye staff or a big time coiner would be my guess.. Have not posted before today, and I guess it shows. It matters not to me what kixeye does, I have allready quit playing and am only reading the forums to laugh at all the kixeye apologists. It is all about money.

    OR A BIG TIME COINER... YOU MATE ARE A JOKE

    I have never spent a single penny on any free online game, and that aint about to change any time soon.

    And if you bothered to read and understand any of my posts you would see this for yourself.

    One post I stated i was a lev 38 in the new system - so not a very high level for a big time coiner

    another post I mention how long it takes for me to refit a ship and fleet - if I was a coiner do you really think I would be waiting a week to upgrade my fleet from SFB1 to SFB2

    come on a coiner would buy what he wants when he wants adnd would not have to put up with any of this waiting for stuff and upgrades


    USE YOUR HEAD AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING
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  • Black.Bob
    Black.Bob
    Greenhorn
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 6
    put the salvage back the way it was,, and stop lie-ing about what u guys have done, a 29 salvage is not the same, once the base hitters empty us out the game will be done because us salvage gathers will not be able to refill, and i am a 49 with no base fleet it is still being built
  • RS3
    RS3
    Greenhorn
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 21
    Drax wrote: »
    you are an obvious idiot who misses the point. Can you not see there is no reason to have the ranks over 46?

    A lev 87 hits a lev 40 or a le 55 or lev 87 and a lev 45 can do the exact same thing so what is the differential factor here????

    You may as well call yourself a level 500 for all the good it will do..


    And for you information I do not work for KIXEYE - if I did why would i be saying their rank system does not make sense on here??

    NOT EVERY ONE WHO DISSAGREES WITH KIXEYYE WORKS FOR THEM YOU KNOW.


    Still waiting on the source of your information. Or is it merely your opinion? Notice I did not insult you personally in any way.
  • Drax
    Drax
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,719
    RS3 wrote: »
    Still waiting on the source of your information. Or is it merely your opinion? Notice I did not insult you personally in any way. Grow up.

    the source is all over these forums, can you not read

    what part do you not understand???

    IN BIG LETTERS FOR YOU - WHAT CHANGES WHEN YOU MOVE FROM LEVEL 46 TO LEVEL 47 ?

    ANSWER NOTHING APART FROM THE NUMBER GETTING BIGGER, YOU CAN STILL ATTACK THE SAME RANGES (THOSE BEING 40 THROUGH TO 87)

    ALL IT DOES IS ALLOW SOMEONE WHO IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY WANT TO ATTACK


    APART FROM THAT THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO HAVE LEVEL NUMBERS - IT IS NOT LIKE A LEVEL 55 CAN ONLY ATTACK 5 UP OR 5 DOWN

    NOW YOU USE YOUR BRAINS AND THINK ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE AND STOP ASKING FOR SOURCE OF THE INFORMATION - JUST STOP AND THINK ABOUT THOSE LITTLE NUMBERS, THEY HAVE NO MEANING PAST A CERTAIN POINT APART FROM LETTING THE HIGH EST OF THE HIGH KNOW WHO IS THE NOOBS TO THERE RANK SO THEY CAN GET AN EASY HIT

    NOW YOU TELL ME WHAT IS DIFFERENT AND WHY THEY SHOULD NOT ALL BE LABELLED 46 SO THEY DO NOT KNOW WHO IS TH HIGHEST RANK AND AT LEAST HAVE AN ELEMENT OF RISK TO THEIR ATTACKS

    BY THAT RANK THAEY SHOULD ALL HAVE EVERYTHING RESEARCHED AND HAVE THE BEST ARMOUR, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE WHAT THEY CHOOSE AS A PRIZE FROM THE RAIDS - AND WITH ENOUGH RAIDS THEY WILL ALL HAVE EVERYTHING AVAILABLE ANYHOW


    NOW EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE
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  • Aria_t
    Aria_t
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1
    Hey.. My base screen won't come up. None of the screens are coming up.. why is that?
  • RS3
    RS3
    Greenhorn
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 21
    Drax wrote: »
    the source is all over these forums, can you not read

    what part do you not understand???

    IN BIG LETTERS FOR YOU - WHAT CHANGES WHEN YOU MOVE FROM LEVEL 46 TO LEVEL 47 ?

    ANSWER NOTHING APART FROM THE NUMBER GETTING BIGGER, YOU CAN STILL ATTACK THE SAME RANGES (THOSE BEING 40 THROUGH TO 87)

    ALL IT DOES IS ALLOW SOMEONE WHO IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY WANT TO ATTACK


    APART FROM THAT THERE IS NO BENEFIT TO HAVE LEVEL NUMBERS - IT IS NOT LIKE A LEVEL 55 CAN ONLY ATTACK 5 UP OR 5 DOWN

    NOW YOU USE YOUR BRAINS AND THINK ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE AND STOP ASKING FOR SOURCE OF THE INFORMATION - JUST STOP AND THINK ABOUT THOSE LITTLE NUMBERS, THEY HAVE NO MEANING PAST A CERTAIN POINT APART FROM LETTING THE HIGH EST OF THE HIGH KNOW WHO IS THE NOOBS TO THERE RANK SO THEY CAN GET AN EASY HIT

    NOW YOU TELL ME WHAT IS DIFFERENT AND WHY THEY SHOULD NOT ALL BE LABELLED 46 SO THEY DO NOT KNOW WHO IS TH HIGHEST RANK AND AT LEAST HAVE AN ELEMENT OF RISK TO THEIR ATTACKS

    BY THAT RANK THAEY SHOULD ALL HAVE EVERYTHING RESEARCHED AND HAVE THE BEST ARMOUR, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE WHAT THEY CHOOSE AS A PRIZE FROM THE RAIDS - AND WITH ENOUGH RAIDS THEY WILL ALL HAVE EVERYTHING AVAILABLE ANYHOW


    NOW EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE


    So it is just an opinion. Do you really think shouting at someone is going to somehow make your opinion any more valid? The difference is that a 31 under the old system could only be attacked by a lvl 36 or lower. Now that same 31 is a 48 and can be attacked by every player 40 and above, including the players who were lvl 37 AND ABOVE under the old system. Greately increasing the number of players eligible to attack that same former lvl 31. And also greatly increasing the level of players that can attack. What chance would that old style 31 have against an old style 39 or above. If you are perma-smashed and cannot salvage enough to pay for repairs what is the fun in playing? That has been my point all along. Touchy about that coiner thing ( you notice I said "be my guess" , that makes it clear it is only my opinion. Not a statement of fact. You have no problem insulting those who do not share your opinion. Should I recipricate in the same way? I am very good at being insulting if being insulting is the only language you understand. And I won't even break any of the posting rules.
  • RS3
    RS3
    Greenhorn
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 21
    Drax wrote: »
    OR A BIG TIME COINER... YOU MATE ARE A JOKE

    I have never spent a single penny on any free online game, and that aint about to change any time soon.

    And if you bothered to read and understand any of my posts you would see this for yourself.

    One post I stated i was a lev 38 in the new system - so not a very high level for a big time coiner

    another post I mention how long it takes for me to refit a ship and fleet - if I was a coiner do you really think I would be waiting a week to upgrade my fleet from SFB1 to SFB2

    come on a coiner would buy what he wants when he wants adnd would not have to put up with any of this waiting for stuff and upgrades


    USE YOUR HEAD AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING


    A coiner may very well say the same thing you are, could they not? Talk in a forum is easy and does not neccessarily mean it is true. This applies in this thread as well as any other.
  • going
    going
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1
    As a lvl40 who is a casual player I would like to say this does not work! I have now been hit by 5 lvl 56+ players who can walk in with little damage and take the res that I can not longer gather in any real quantity mean I can not upgrade anything to prevent the raids.

    Should of been salv or lvl structure but both have made the game unplayable for us low forty player.

    SO another player lost goodbye
  • Dave Antepara
    Dave Antepara
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 79
    45 or 56 what is diff your gonna get wiped no matter what bases are not impenetrable and cant be made so not with current defense , we dont have a base shield we can build , not blue bubble, but silver bubble we have to maintain to keep
  • death205
    death205
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    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 209
    going wrote: »
    As a lvl40 who is a casual player I would like to say this does not work! I have now been hit by 5 lvl 56+ players who can walk in with little damage and take the res that I can not longer gather in any real quantity mean I can not upgrade anything to prevent the raids.

    Should of been salv or lvl structure but both have made the game unplayable for us low forty player.

    SO another player lost goodbye
    ok but its basicly the same thing geez people if u are a level 30 a 35 can hit ya right same thing how many higher players then 35 have u seen so ya
    im a level 56 mano=kill or be killed
    insector hiter or u will never learn
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  • Nigel M Bailey
    Nigel M Bailey
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 304
    My concern for this is only that I think @ level 40 your not quite ready to defend yourself against level 50s or higher and therefore you are likely to become a farm to the higher levels as even with a well designed base the turret tech and guard fleet is likely not able to match a level 50+ that could attack you.

    In reality I think @ level 42/43 you could probably hold their own against these high levels.
     'You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.' ~ Winston Churchill
  • death205
    death205
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    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 209
    at 40 aint that like a 30
    im a level 56 mano=kill or be killed
    insector hiter or u will never learn
    arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ima pirateeeeeeeeeeee
    My alliance: airborne
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  • delvin_g
    delvin_g
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 23
    kIXEYE actually listens and acts on its users complaints and recommendations! Gaming all my life and this is unherd of ... But to the point i want more more and more - Been here a short time and in about a month my labs will be maxed out - I want to see more hulls- how about hulls in bp's ! .. I would like to protect my neighbors and myself before we get attacked ..We should be able to attack fleets at will. We use to be able to attack when fleets were coming out of a base but with the lag that is nearly impossible..The terrain is generic - once above lvl 20 everybodys base is exactly the same layout - we should be able to create terrain like we do "Walls" speaking of walls what is the point of them if everything but ballistics can jump over them !!!! We need to add more so that a player can be unique. I know I know Work in progress...I just want to see more i want to do more then attack a base - or load cargo - which is all we can do when were waiting a week to research then another week to build. Humans have low attention spans and with the rollout of call of duty zombies in novemeber i think ill be spending my time there then on here waiting for time to click by! Gimme more Kixeye and Ill give you more ! Nuclear war-heads....simultaneous attacks on 1 base...better terrain layouts...more hulls and weapons... more labs that surpass 10.. a outpost that cant be maxed - so what if it cost a billion in res each.
    The point is - with limitations the game comes to a end -
  • Chris Hanna
    Chris Hanna
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 75
    what happened with the sals? i tried to hit a lvl 29 and it said 51
  • Don359
    Don359
    Greenhorn
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 5
    Ok, This totally Sux! How fair is this? I am a 47 so a 65 can now obliterate me!! Yet I can only hit 7 less than me and, the 65 can go down 25 levels!! Fair! WOW!!! REALLY? WOW!

    Further 80% of the people I used to hit I can no longer hit because of your restructuring!

    So, you virtually eliminated all of my targets and, made me a target for virtually ALL of the BIG DOGS!

    And, you think I'm going to love this new structure why?

    Wow! REALLY? INCREDIBLY BAD!! JUST RUIN THE GAME WHY DON"T YOU?

    Now, everyone can attack me and, I can't attack anyone I used to!

    MEANWHILE, I DID LIKE THE NEW SALVS!! BUT YOU KILLED THAT!
  • Don359
    Don359
    Greenhorn
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 5
    MIGHT I SUGGEST 5 up 5 down for everyone! How is it fair for a 65 to hit a 40!
  • Brien Rooney
    Brien Rooney
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 12
    thank you i am now getting my **** kicked on the daily.......btw thanks for the form letter reply to my ticket, i spend about $30 a month on this game......well i did anyway
  • Black-Claw
    Black-Claw
    Greenhorn
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 5
    Well this new system just plane lack of a better word (Sucks). Giving a lvl 55 the ability to hit a 40+ is just not right. What chance do any of the 40+ players have at making it to a level to even hit back?
  • Black-Claw
    Black-Claw
    Greenhorn
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 5
    And after reading this new level system and talking to other players. I think it's time to find a new game to play and spend my money on. Thanks for the fun but you can kiss it.
  • Dirtyd0g
    Dirtyd0g
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 501
    I got the raw end of this change being level 32 I lost all the level 27 and level 28 bases I could hit leaving my fleet completely under powered because almost all the bases now are du4 and blueprints have screwed me over for months so I don't have siege mortars.
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  • Georgia_Max
    Georgia_Max
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    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 1
    When I try to log in to game ...everything seems fine. When I try to play game. I get the old SOS message. Saying I have th egame open somewhere else. Anyone experience this? And what can I do to fix it? This just started after the last KIX FIX.
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