Damage Protection Rules Change

  • Gary White
    Gary White
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 268
    Azmodan wrote: »
    If you want to stop abuse or "buddy" bubbles, its very simple. "REMOVE THE RETREAT BUTTON". Make them time out, or lose fleets. Who is going to spend 20 minutes trying to give someone a buddy bubble?

    Under this idea, 3 people, 2 people set 3 fleets with 1 gunboat, 1 person sets 4 fleets as 1 gunboat, Each person sends the gunboats at the turrets, little damage, instant repair, when you are done that person would have 10 hits and a 2 day bubble. could be done within a matter of 2 mins max. With the last person sending the 4 gunboats in.
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  • Andrew Allred
    Andrew Allred
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 38
    no kixeye you should not let do that to us it's a good system and for the high players with bad defense it helps. plz don't take that away from us
  • William PItman
    William PItman
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 6
    damage protection should be left alone as it is some peoples only way to keep stronger players out of their bases. too many people on here hack the game & use very strong fleets on much smaller & weaker player bases. this is our most powerful tool to keep this from happeing & basically only tool
    you wil just hurt the game by doing this.
  • Azmodan
    Azmodan
    Potential Threat
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 69
    So let me get this right. You expect 3 different people to help with a buddy bubble? Kixeye wants people to work together so they should be happy, right? lol. Who really has 3 people to call up as buddy bubbles at once? the only one's would be the people with multi accounts, which is against the rules...
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    I don't understand your need for constant drama........its only a click to repair.
  • Dayman107
    Dayman107
    Potential Threat
    Joined Sep 2010 Posts: 70
    randy b wrote: »
    hiding in bubbles??..its called trying to grow..as a lvl 27 how do you think i can stop the same lvl 32 player from stealing 25 mill?? im just now starting to put in sent 4s..but a hammer fleet can skate right through..no lvl 25 -28 can stop the players that are 5 lvls ahead. once i get du4 it will be easier to defend...one thing i agree on is **** getting a buddy bubble after hitting a base...if anything eliminate the ability to get bubble after you hit a base. this is going to force all the high lvl players farms to quit or relocate..then youll **** about something else.

    The problem doesn't lie with the +/- 5 level difference, the problem lies with the fact that leveling up past 30 is an incredibly slow process. Certainly diminishing returns are in order for leveling up (else there would be so few targets at the higher levels), but Kixeye didn't think it through when they had most people switching from blue to gold turret bases around that level.

    If they changed the leveling algorithm a bit, that might fix the problem you're complaining about. Still 5 levels is more than an acceptable difference.
  • Pirate_Steve
    Pirate_Steve
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 1,952
    Again, you will still be able to give eachother bubbles for protection!! Good lord, it's not like you will be a sitting duck out there now or something. :rolleyes:
  • ron-k
    ron-k
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 5
    If you are going to remove friendly bubbles then you also need to reduce the time for researches and there cost. If we can no longer bubble to protect these researches then at least shorten the time and cost. The cost of researches is unjust if we can not hold on to the resources long enough to gather them, to get them started. We are just using the tools provided to protect these items while they are being researched or gathered which ever the case may be. Thank You
  • someonehere
    someonehere
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 1,276
    my question is if someone send 4-5 friends in with large bunker bust the howies? will it trigger the new damage protection? also really hope we get some clear info on these changes and when they will take place... How far the base patrol fleet will stroll etc.. also i enjoy changing my base.. some times takes me 2 day with dang walls.. is there gonna be a way to rework ones base.. would love a easier way for walls to be moved lol
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  • bees
    bees
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    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,999
    tunder00 wrote: »
    Plus, just think if you had a WH that was able to be picked off from the outside, someone could drain you dry.

    Yeah this idea is stupid. I don't like bubble buddies and hate them as much as other people but i know how to conger them. I simply attack the guy who bubbles my target and this happened a lot. But i got brain and see option in attacking other people.
  • jonny cabbage
    jonny cabbage
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,345
    a lot of people have been moaning bout not having a bubb when redesigning their bases with the dp rules being changed, well i just redid my base in a hostile sector without a bubble, got the layout sorted on a designer first and the whole thing only took a couple hours, WITHOUT A BUBBLE. ok if i'd been hit in this time then a bit of res would have sailed away but so what, few hours delay on the whole redesign, so what, it's only a game.
     
  • Barabbas
    Barabbas
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2011 Posts: 841
    What about the player who straps on SFB3 and heads into your sector destroying as many docks as he can, returns to his base, then bubbles himself with his alt account? And to add insult to injury he smack talks on chat calling everybody a **** saying he has 'done it all without coin', ( what he fails to mention however is that he has done it with the use of several alt accounts ).

    Do not blame Kixeye, do not blame high level players, blame these guys who have abused the system for far too long.
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  • jfdeane3
    jfdeane3
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    Joined Jun 2011 Posts: 58
    I had a thought that with this new implimentation that I could go in a base with a thud sw. Destroy a gun turret then leave. Go back in with the sws and destroy another. After I feel safe enough and before a bubble comes up I can then destroy the entire base without receiving much damage to my base fleet.

    I guess the only way to keep this from happening is only allow 2 attacks in a seven day period on a player. After 7 days expire on a player then you are free to hit that base again. This way a bubble is not really needed for that specific player to leave you alone. It will keep repeated attacks from happening.

    The reason for 2 attacks is simple. If I enter a base and not see the opening I can then leave and reenter.
  • OldGrumpyKillerKoala
    OldGrumpyKillerKoala
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Apr 2011 Posts: 252
    +1
    yes too many people have access to more than one account
  • bees
    bees
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    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,999
    jfdeane3 wrote: »
    I had a thought that with this new implimentation that I could go in a base with a thud sw. Destroy a gun turret then leave. Go back in with the sws and destroy another. After I feel safe enough and before a bubble comes up I can then destroy the entire base without receiving much damage to my base fleet.

    I guess the only way to keep this from happening is only allow 2 attacks in a seven day period on a player. After 7 days expire on a player then you are free to hit that base again. This way a bubble is not really needed for that specific player to leave you alone. It will keep repeated attacks from happening.

    The reason for 2 attacks is simple. If I enter a base and not see the opening I can then leave and reenter.

    Hitting 1 base only 2 times in 7 days? then i rather fight bubble buddies
  • jfdeane3
    jfdeane3
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    Joined Jun 2011 Posts: 58
    But then you cannot take advantage of lower level players. Give them time to recoop. Everyone has an enemy but it should not be exploited.
  • SPARK-127
    SPARK-127
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 10
    its about time tired of all the friendly bubble parties
  • bees
    bees
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    SPARK-127 wrote: »
    its about time tired of all the friendly bubble parties

    People play this game differently i don't like bubble buddies either. But this will probably make 60% of the BP players to quit playing since they will constantly be under attack have no chance to build up and this will favorites the CC players non CC players will be screwed, trust me: So when you attack bases with this option 80% of the bases will be leveled and you travel around and never find a base that isn't destroyed anymore! I never get friendly bubble but i know a lot of people that have fun in this game chatting in comms only mining and killing salvages. Let them do it if they wanna play like this and why should everyone be forced to play in 1 way? When this happen KIXEYE will understand they have down the biggest mistake in Bps history and then it is to late and 80% of all players is gone.
  • Ann_L
    Ann_L
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 3
    It sure would be nice to implement a +/-2 base rather than the +/- 5 that we have now. It seems like this move will only make the level 30+ players more powerful.
  • bees
    bees
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    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,999
    Ann_L wrote: »
    It sure would be nice to implement a +/-2 base rather than the +/- 5 that we have now. It seems like this move will only make the level 30+ players more powerful.

    it will trust me and we big players can be bigger bullies now also. I am a fair player lvl 32 that never attacks anyone under lvl 30 because i don't see the point in attacking weak players, but there is many wuzzies that are lvl 30 + that attack lvl 25-29 players >.< but they got no balls or skill and they are what we call NOOBS
  • gandalfur5
    gandalfur5
    Greenhorn
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 5
    guessing the game will be over for those of us that don't use credit cards now and can't buy protection
  • Toy Jun Kie 1
    Toy Jun Kie 1
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,269
    gandalfur5 wrote: »
    guessing the game will be over for those of us that don't use credit cards now and can't buy protection

    yep
  • OrcwarriorHH
    OrcwarriorHH
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 180
    looks that way from now on if you dont get cloose too 30 and be safe then like me i am 32 and not spend coins on the game add all
  • Stephen_r
    Stephen_r
    Greenhorn
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 2
    So this is another ploy of Kixeye to make the players use a cc,To increase there profits and screw the guy who doesn't have one. I think you should pay attention to the game you have right now and fix all the buggs that are in the game EX Like the time clocks that are fast on somethings an slow on others that are ripping off the players of the game. Like these examples when you get a bubble the clocks are always faster,But when you are upgrading the clocks are always slower, This also happens when you are repairing your fleets or researching new weapons.I think you better fix the game you have now before bowing to the cry babies in the game. Don't change this rule, It is already hard enough to keep out the cc user now
  • Toy Jun Kie 1
    Toy Jun Kie 1
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,269
    Stephen_r wrote: »
    So this is another ploy of Kixeye to make the players use a cc,To increase there profits and screw the guy who doesn't have one.

    Sure looks that way
  • bees
    bees
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    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,999
    gandalfur5 wrote: »
    guessing the game will be over for those of us that don't use credit cards now and can't buy protection

    Yupp this is what KIXEYE want get ride of the free players since they don't pay for the game then they don't deserve to be able to defend them self or attack others! But i gonna support non-coiners if all this new changes happen by never use my CC again and i was about to buy 2000 fb coins today just before i read this new forum and now i am not gonna buy those FB coins, because i see this game is going to the graveyard thanks to some retarded KIXEYE employes that can't even make the game stable before they release more stuff. YEAH i mean it is retarded! I am so **** happy i read this tread before ei used my CC again thanks KIXEYE for warning me about your dumbest ideas in the history!
  • JoeFri85
    JoeFri85
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jun 2011 Posts: 611
    Thanks for all the feedback so far, it's been a great read.

    I do want to address one concern at this point. Damage Protection was not created with the intention that friends would indefinitely keep each other bubbled. The term "bubble buddies" really should not exist. Battle Pirates is designed to be an interactive experience with other players and hiding under what is essentially a permanent bubble is not interaction.
    In other words, for all of you that have kept on saying "it is a legitimate tactic!"... it's not, ur just a fking coward.
    Folks, the KIXEYE team puts their lives into these games (me included). The simple fact is that we have the luxury of not having to put up with rude **** and disrespect will not be tolerated towards ANY KIXEYE team member. Understood?
  • I am a Spy
    I am a Spy
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 463
    Thanks for all the feedback so far, it's been a great read.

    I do want to address one concern at this point. Damage Protection was not created with the intention that friends would indefinitely keep each other bubbled. The term "bubble buddies" really should not exist. Battle Pirates is designed to be an interactive experience with other players and hiding under what is essentially a permanent bubble is not interaction.

    That is what fleet battles is for. Pirates attack ships at sea; military forces invade bases "Countries".
  • I am a Spy
    I am a Spy
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 463
    Another solution is contacting BBB.
  • tishbombish
    tishbombish
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 556
    Dont know if this has been suggested .. extended protection time depending on the level difference .. so someone 5 levels lower than the attacker would get a longer period of protection them someone 1/2 levels different .. :cool:
  • TheHammer
    TheHammer
    Potential Threat
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 54
    Why would lower levels get a longer protection time? Higher lvl buildings and turrets take longer to repair. And even though there are a few people who coin bubbles, this is mainly to keep all the **** buddy bubblers at bay(say that 5 times fast!). I think this has been needed for a long time. Maybe now some of you will learn to man up and take the hit, it's be only way to learn and get better
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