I'm wondering if a vocal minority is the real problem with the bubble system. We may have a vocal minority of ppl who are so uber they really don't need a bubble and are frustrated they can't wack EVERYONE with impunity. That the real problem is we have a minority of loud mouthed bullies whining up a storm. The second KIXEYE bends to these narcissistic jerk offs they'll promptly run off all the hardcore gamers who have learned to deal with the problem of bubble buddies with vigilant play.
The worst possible mistake KIXEYE could make would be to screw up the bubble system (i.e. replace it with an unworkable mess) that would run off the non coining hardcore gamers the whales (big spenders) spend a lot of money to beat. KIXEYE must beware of short term appeasement of its whales. If KIXEYE allows the complete destruction of the hardcore non-coiners the whales will get their victory, but then promptly leave to take on the "professional" hardcore gamer somewhere else.
Would changing the bubble system run off the hard core gamers? You betcha if the hardcore gamer isn't allowed to catch up to the coiners. All the coiners really get is a time advantage over the hardcore gamers, if the hardcore ppl can never repair their base b4 getting hit, if they are never allowed hit back because their ships are in perpetual dry dock, if the dock can even repair ships because it needs repairs itself, then the hardcore gamer WILL leave. It would only be a matter of weeks if not days b4 the hotshot non coiners figure out they have no chance and go. KIXEYE, change your system slowly, wisely and with care. If you give your hardcore gamers reason to look elsewhere they will, if you do it often enough they will find another cool game and your company is toast.
When, all very well keep saying your going to add new stuff!
So far you have added a new reward system that no one wanted, that you quickly took down again.
Fair enough no raid if you actually do what you said you were going to but so far, not a lot of updates have come out and the game is worse for glitches than it was a month ago!
You're original statement was that the month of no raids would be used to fix bugs, so far all you've done is add new ones
I agree with you. I have a friend text me saying he gets flattened twice a day within 2-4 hours because he gets no bubble after being flattened.
I have another idea on how to solve this bubble system. Make it to where "Your Dock, Researches and Upgrades can't be targeted." (can't be destroyed and can't take damage) If your upgrading a platform that platform is rendered useless till it's complete, but it can't take damage to prevent it's time. "Cause I for one am tired of flattening bases just to have those **** that can't get in my base or won't attempt it use a **** rocket to destroy/damage my researchs/upgrades and my dock. It's bad enough that you ADDED More repair times and the cost to repair ships. My base killer was 3-4 mill in cost to repair and took 10 hours, now it costs 10 mill and 14 hours to repair it.......um what the hell...... You keep increasing everything way out of proportions! 14 days to make ships, 10 day researchs/upgrades... that's ridiculous. It shouldn't be no longer then 5 days to research or upgrade something, ships shouldn't take more then 7 days to build. I Play "Wasteland Empires" and the longest research time they have is 3 days, longest upgrade is 1 day. I enjoy that game more cause it doesn't take so much out of my day to do something. WE HAVE JOBS AND LIVES! Our lives can't be committed to a game that takes forever to do something. Jesus I've gonna 5 days in a row without finding a single blueprint. and I attack 50-100 Salvages a day, 70% of those are lvl 8's the other 30 are lvl 6-7 salvages. FIX THIS **** BEFORE ADDING NEW ****! Thank you for your time KIXEYE, yet I doubt you'll ever read these comments. Oh and if you do I doubt you care what we say, cause it sure as hell doesn't seem like you care. Is money more important to you, then your fans?
why dont fix so that when you attack the max amount* of resources you get dependes on the level this way you help lower levels heres an example of the amounts
- 5 levels = 50%
- 4 levels = 60%
- 3 levels = 70%
- 2 levels = 80%
- 1 level = 90%
same level = 100%
+ 1 level = 150%
+ 2 levels = 200%
+ 3 levels = 300%
+ 4 levels = 400%
+ 5 levels = 500%
( * that a fleet can carry )
The bubble is there for a reason: To allow a base to heal after a repair.
Removal of "free" bubbles is a good idea. Instead I'd like to see a change to the bubble length based 100% on damage. A starting point of 25% leaves those little guys open to multiple attacks in a short period.
A sliding scale from say 10% damage - 1hr through to 100% damage 48hrs.
Alternatively, you know the total repair time for a base (it's in the little pop up) so make the bubble repair time + 20%. Someone hits the dock, that's 4hrs repair plus 20% so bubble is 4hrs 48mins.
bubble need to go......233 sailing with uber wolves and hammers at level 28......but funny enough when you find a level 28/29 base bubble down you can level it with a levi fleet....and strangely one hit gives them a permanent bubble O_o .......bubble buddies need to stop and cant wait for this addition.....could be that the same guys who whine about subs taking out parked fleets are also the guys who go for the more fun option of nicer ships instead of defending the bootay.....have 10 fleets defending the base.....
I think the Goliath is pretty call it a potty....and it will flush your little poo ship!!!!
Sad Really that most have to complain about strategies that prevent them from easily Bullying others . Just know that those who where smart enough to dup you with this strategy will work out other ways of one uping you. Stop whining about not getting it your way and learn how to overcome. It is after all a war game. And keep in mind that throwing insults like you do about those that outsmart you does not more then show your character and position in life. It doesn't hurt those who are of sound mind lmao. And I haven't had a problem hitting the bases of those who bubble up as I have the mind for the counter and the patience to get in while they hit another base. Is even more gratifying to me to be able to do that then to get into an unprotected base! So by Kixeye's choice to remove this they are removing another element of challenge to accommodate you whiners. Makes me disappointed in the game. Maybe it is time to spend my time and coins on another game.
The only ones who like this are people like yourself who are high level do to time playing or credit card. All of you higher level people use to do bubbles when you were low level but now its a different story since your big level now right. Its a bunch of bull.
So by KIXEYE's choice to remove this they are removing another element of challenge to accommodate you whiners. Makes me disappointed in the game. Maybe it is time to spend my time and coins on another game.)
Don't let the door hit you in the **** on the way out.
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why dont fix so that when you attack the max amount* of resources you get dependes on the level this way you help lower levels heres an example of the amounts
- 5 levels = 50%
- 4 levels = 60%
- 3 levels = 70%
- 2 levels = 80%
- 1 level = 90%
same level = 100%
+ 1 level = 150%
+ 2 levels = 200%
+ 3 levels = 300%
+ 4 levels = 400%
+ 5 levels = 500%
( * that a fleet can carry )
i think youd get more support for it if -5 was 100 %
-4 was 125
-3 was 150
The only ones who like this are people like yourself who are high level do to time playing or credit card. All of you higher level people use to do bubbles when you were low level but now its a different story since your big level now right. Its a bunch of bull.
Thanks for all the feedback you provided on the topic. Your opinions have been compiled, filtered and passed on for the developers to read. At this point, the window to help shape the future of this feature has closed, so the thread is now closed as well.
The worst possible mistake KIXEYE could make would be to screw up the bubble system (i.e. replace it with an unworkable mess) that would run off the non coining hardcore gamers the whales (big spenders) spend a lot of money to beat. KIXEYE must beware of short term appeasement of its whales. If KIXEYE allows the complete destruction of the hardcore non-coiners the whales will get their victory, but then promptly leave to take on the "professional" hardcore gamer somewhere else.
Would changing the bubble system run off the hard core gamers? You betcha if the hardcore gamer isn't allowed to catch up to the coiners. All the coiners really get is a time advantage over the hardcore gamers, if the hardcore ppl can never repair their base b4 getting hit, if they are never allowed hit back because their ships are in perpetual dry dock, if the dock can even repair ships because it needs repairs itself, then the hardcore gamer WILL leave. It would only be a matter of weeks if not days b4 the hotshot non coiners figure out they have no chance and go. KIXEYE, change your system slowly, wisely and with care. If you give your hardcore gamers reason to look elsewhere they will, if you do it often enough they will find another cool game and your company is toast.
I agree with you. I have a friend text me saying he gets flattened twice a day within 2-4 hours because he gets no bubble after being flattened.
I have another idea on how to solve this bubble system. Make it to where "Your Dock, Researches and Upgrades can't be targeted." (can't be destroyed and can't take damage) If your upgrading a platform that platform is rendered useless till it's complete, but it can't take damage to prevent it's time. "Cause I for one am tired of flattening bases just to have those **** that can't get in my base or won't attempt it use a **** rocket to destroy/damage my researchs/upgrades and my dock. It's bad enough that you ADDED More repair times and the cost to repair ships. My base killer was 3-4 mill in cost to repair and took 10 hours, now it costs 10 mill and 14 hours to repair it.......um what the hell...... You keep increasing everything way out of proportions! 14 days to make ships, 10 day researchs/upgrades... that's ridiculous. It shouldn't be no longer then 5 days to research or upgrade something, ships shouldn't take more then 7 days to build. I Play "Wasteland Empires" and the longest research time they have is 3 days, longest upgrade is 1 day. I enjoy that game more cause it doesn't take so much out of my day to do something. WE HAVE JOBS AND LIVES! Our lives can't be committed to a game that takes forever to do something. Jesus I've gonna 5 days in a row without finding a single blueprint. and I attack 50-100 Salvages a day, 70% of those are lvl 8's the other 30 are lvl 6-7 salvages. FIX THIS **** BEFORE ADDING NEW ****! Thank you for your time KIXEYE, yet I doubt you'll ever read these comments. Oh and if you do I doubt you care what we say, cause it sure as hell doesn't seem like you care. Is money more important to you, then your fans?
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Chin_Tekki_Tho
sector 138 for about 9 more hours. Yuck
- 5 levels = 50%
- 4 levels = 60%
- 3 levels = 70%
- 2 levels = 80%
- 1 level = 90%
same level = 100%
+ 1 level = 150%
+ 2 levels = 200%
+ 3 levels = 300%
+ 4 levels = 400%
+ 5 levels = 500%
( * that a fleet can carry )
Removal of "free" bubbles is a good idea. Instead I'd like to see a change to the bubble length based 100% on damage. A starting point of 25% leaves those little guys open to multiple attacks in a short period.
A sliding scale from say 10% damage - 1hr through to 100% damage 48hrs.
Alternatively, you know the total repair time for a base (it's in the little pop up) so make the bubble repair time + 20%. Someone hits the dock, that's 4hrs repair plus 20% so bubble is 4hrs 48mins.
Matts Siren
No, not all. Although I'm not proud of my ONE 48 hour friendly bubble, I hardly think it constitutes abuse of the system.
Don't let the door hit you in the **** on the way out.
https://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/433430
i think youd get more support for it if -5 was 100 %
-4 was 125
-3 was 150
excetera some times you just have to kill a noob
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erm i have NEVER had a frubble thanx
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