SB-1 Splash Buffer

TheSkullhunter · 16 May 2018, 6:02PM

Does that work like the microwave dapener tac mod, where it is only effective if the ship dealing the splash damage, is within the 150 range? Also, the bonus if equipped to Outpost, makes the total -70% + an additional -35% and that is again, only if the ship dealing the splash damage, is within the 150 range?

Alex11111 · 16 May 2018, 6:06PM

Read what it says outpost -35 splash, but a whole base. Eveything else -70% , but only within 150 range...

DarkMercenary · 16 May 2018, 6:13PM

Alex11111 said:

Read what it says outpost -35 splash, but a whole base. Eveything else -70% , but only within 150 range...

Yeah that's how I interpreted it too, though Kixeye should have worded it better by not saying "Bonus effect" - this makes it sound like it's an additional 35% splash reduction.

TheSkullhunter · 16 May 2018, 6:24PM

DarkMercenary said:

Alex11111 said:

Read what it says outpost -35 splash, but a whole base. Eveything else -70% , but only within 150 range...

Yeah that's how I interpreted it too, though Kixeye should have worded it better by not saying "Bonus effect" - this makes it sound like it's an additional 35% splash reduction.

Yeah, any player who thinks that the 150 range is awesome, would also enjoy an additional 35% because theyre level 30 and 150 is their whole base.

That being said....

the print should say one of these 3 things to make it a bit more clear...

1:

Bonus Effect With Outpost:
Type Hostile
Affects: Ships
Range Maximum/Whole Base
Splash -35%

2:

Bonus Effect With Outpost:
Type Friendly
Affects: Buildings, Ships, Turrets
Range Maximum/Whole Base
Splash Damage Reduction -35%

Or 3:

Bonus Effect With Outpost:
Type Friendly
Affects Buildings, Ships, Turrets
Range Maximum/Whole Base
Splash -35%

stephenl90 · 16 May 2018, 6:39PM

So it does nothing to the mortars from a Sloth fleet ?

TRUCULENT2 · 16 May 2018, 7:23PM

stephenl90 said:

So it does nothing to the mortars from a Sloth fleet ?

If you equip it to the OP it will.

Not Who You Think · 16 May 2018, 7:46PM

The field says hostile, which itself implies that the ship that fires the mortar or rocket has to be under the field effect to experience a loss of splash.

Alex11111 · 16 May 2018, 7:50PM

Ni-Gel said:

The field says hostile, which itself implies that the ship that fires the mortar or rocket has to be under the field effect to experience a loss of splash.

Maye be this is for future ballistic conq ship with lots of splash...

Not Who You Think · 16 May 2018, 7:51PM

Alex11111 said:

Ni-Gel said:

The field says hostile, which itself implies that the ship that fires the mortar or rocket has to be under the field effect to experience a loss of splash.

Maye be this is for future ballistic conq ship with lots of splash...

That sounds entirely possible.

TheSkullhunter · 16 May 2018, 8:18PM

Do any moderators know the truth about this whimsical blueprint, or are we left up to our own interpretation?

Toshiyuki Morikawa · 16 May 2018, 8:23PM

TheSkullhunter said:

Do any moderators know the truth about this whimsical blueprint, or are we left up to our own interpretation?

Read the description. It's called out about as plainly as possible IMO. "reduces the splash potential of projectiles launched from hulls within range." In other words, the attacker needs to be in the field.

TheSkullhunter · 16 May 2018, 8:33PM

Thanks, but how about the bonus.. theres 1 stat "boost" attribute, with no defining attributes. We are to assume it "piggybacks" on the previous section of stats, or is its own seperate entity.. You tell me your opinion...

"Alternate" would have explained it all.. not "Bonus" alternate suggests instead of. bonus suggests in addition to.

TheSkullhunter · 16 May 2018, 10:48PM

TheSkullhunter said:

Thanks, but how about the bonus.. theres 1 stat "boost" attribute, with no defining attributes. We are to assume it "piggybacks" on the previous section of stats, or is its own seperate entity.. You tell me your opinion...

"Alternate" would have explained it all.. not "Bonus" alternate suggests instead of. bonus suggests in addition to.

After digging through the forums, it seems as if with explosive/pen overlays, the stat blocks are also similar failing to include some information. While wording on the left is correct (apparently) we all know that there have been errors on blueprints before. Enough said.

Admiral_Slappy · 20 May 2018, 10:37AM

So what if I bolt one on my OP.

AND one on another building(s)

Does the effect stack? What If I have two (non-OP) buildings closer than 150, does it stack then?

Mods?

Stacking or lack thereof, can you clarify?

Also a clear answer on "does this special affect inbound weapons that fall within the area of effect (AOE), OR in order for the reduction to take place the ship firing must in the AOE " would be much appreciated.

Templar614 · 20 May 2018, 4:27PM

Admiral_Slappy said:

So what if I bolt one on my OP.

AND one on another building(s)

Does the effect stack? What If I have two (non-OP) buildings closer than 150, does it stack then?

Mods?

Stacking or lack thereof, can you clarify?

Also a clear answer on "does this special affect inbound weapons that fall within the area of effect (AOE), OR in order for the reduction to take place the ship firing must in the AOE " would be much appreciated.

There is an aura cap of one. So only the strongest field will apply. If you have on on the Outpost and one on a Warehouse they will have the -35% reduction applied until they come within range of the equipped Warehouse and then the -70% will be applied.

The attacking ship needs to be under the effect of the field. Where the projectiles land is irrelevant, it is all about what the attacking ship is being effected by.

Corp_Hellrazor · 20 May 2018, 6:17PM

Templar614 said:

Admiral_Slappy said:

So what if I bolt one on my OP.

AND one on another building(s)

Does the effect stack? What If I have two (non-OP) buildings closer than 150, does it stack then?

Mods?

Stacking or lack thereof, can you clarify?

Also a clear answer on "does this special affect inbound weapons that fall within the area of effect (AOE), OR in order for the reduction to take place the ship firing must in the AOE " would be much appreciated.

There is an aura cap of one. So only the strongest field will apply. If you have on on the Outpost and one on a Warehouse they will have the -35% reduction applied until they come within range of the equipped Warehouse and then the -70% will be applied.

The attacking ship needs to be under the effect of the field. Where the projectiles land is irrelevant, it is all about what the attacking ship is being effected by.

Are you absitively, possilutely sure this is how it works ?

Templar614 · 20 May 2018, 6:59PM

Corp_Hellrazor said:

Templar614 said:

Admiral_Slappy said:

So what if I bolt one on my OP.

AND one on another building(s)

Does the effect stack? What If I have two (non-OP) buildings closer than 150, does it stack then?

Mods?

Stacking or lack thereof, can you clarify?

Also a clear answer on "does this special affect inbound weapons that fall within the area of effect (AOE), OR in order for the reduction to take place the ship firing must in the AOE " would be much appreciated.

There is an aura cap of one. So only the strongest field will apply. If you have on on the Outpost and one on a Warehouse they will have the -35% reduction applied until they come within range of the equipped Warehouse and then the -70% will be applied.

The attacking ship needs to be under the effect of the field. Where the projectiles land is irrelevant, it is all about what the attacking ship is being effected by.

Are you absitively, possilutely sure this is how it works ?

It is the same thing as the Kinetic Buffer. The comparison before/after attack with SB1 added had a pretty noticeable difference.

I haven't specifically tested to see if it actually works, but it is supposed to be just like Kinetic Buffer from my understanding.

Corp_Hellrazor · 20 May 2018, 7:29PM

Templar614 said:

Corp_Hellrazor said:

Templar614 said:

Admiral_Slappy said:

So what if I bolt one on my OP.

AND one on another building(s)

Does the effect stack? What If I have two (non-OP) buildings closer than 150, does it stack then?

Mods?

Stacking or lack thereof, can you clarify?

Also a clear answer on "does this special affect inbound weapons that fall within the area of effect (AOE), OR in order for the reduction to take place the ship firing must in the AOE " would be much appreciated.

There is an aura cap of one. So only the strongest field will apply. If you have on on the Outpost and one on a Warehouse they will have the -35% reduction applied until they come within range of the equipped Warehouse and then the -70% will be applied.

The attacking ship needs to be under the effect of the field. Where the projectiles land is irrelevant, it is all about what the attacking ship is being effected by.

Are you absitively, possilutely sure this is how it works ?

It is the same thing as the Kinetic Buffer. The comparison before/after attack with SB1 added had a pretty noticeable difference.

I haven't specifically tested to see if it actually works, but it is supposed to be just like Kinetic Buffer from my understanding.

Thanks mate.

I don't doubt your word, I just have a problem trusting anything in game atm.

Admiral_Slappy · 21 May 2018, 5:11AM

thanks for the info Templar, very helpful.

Capt.Bly · 21 May 2018, 1:04PM

I have 2 equipped, one to the OP, other to a warehouse, and after refreshing, there's nothing on the stat block of the affected turrets that indicate that it's even there................ visual glitch?

Templar614 · 21 May 2018, 1:44PM

@Capt.Bly said:
I have 2 equipped, one to the OP, other to a warehouse, and after refreshing, there's nothing on the stat block of the affected turrets that indicate that it's even there................ visual glitch?

It is a hostile field, it doesn’t effect your stuff.

Capt.Bly · 21 May 2018, 1:56PM

Templar614 said:

@Capt.Bly said:
I have 2 equipped, one to the OP, other to a warehouse, and after refreshing, there's nothing on the stat block of the affected turrets that indicate that it's even there................ visual glitch?

It is a hostile field, it doesn’t effect your stuff.

I know the "hostile" stat has been around forever, but I got to say, this game is becoming way too technical for me, might be time for me to hang my hat.

Toshiyuki Morikawa · 21 May 2018, 6:57PM

Templar614 said:

@Capt.Bly said:
I have 2 equipped, one to the OP, other to a warehouse, and after refreshing, there's nothing on the stat block of the affected turrets that indicate that it's even there................ visual glitch?

It is a hostile field, it doesn’t effect your stuff.

It also doesn't apply to turrets anyway, sooooooo......

It's almost like basic reading comprehension and reasoning skills are going extinct. Guess that explains the prevalence of the anti-vax and flat earth crowds.

Admiral_Slappy · 21 May 2018, 11:44PM

Toshiyuki Morikawa said:

Templar614 said:

@Capt.Bly said:
I have 2 equipped, one to the OP, other to a warehouse, and after refreshing, there's nothing on the stat block of the affected turrets that indicate that it's even there................ visual glitch?

It is a hostile field, it doesn’t effect your stuff.

It also doesn't apply to turrets anyway, sooooooo......

It's almost like basic reading comprehension and reasoning skills are going extinct. Guess that explains the prevalence of the anti-vax and flat earth crowds.

High comedy on the forums tonight...

Capt.Bly · 22 May 2018, 10:15AM

Toshiyuki Morikawa said:

Templar614 said:

@Capt.Bly said:
I have 2 equipped, one to the OP, other to a warehouse, and after refreshing, there's nothing on the stat block of the affected turrets that indicate that it's even there................ visual glitch?

It is a hostile field, it doesn’t effect your stuff.

It also doesn't apply to turrets anyway, sooooooo......

It's almost like basic reading comprehension and reasoning skills are going extinct. Guess that explains the prevalence of the anti-vax and flat earth crowds.

Are the arrogant belligerent troll replies really necessary?

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SB-1 Splash Buffer