Bounty Discussion

onepiece · 29 Dec 2017, 4:15PM

Is there any way to quit this BS bounty once we start it? It is not giving earned bounties, waste of coin repairing base.

SUCH_IS_LIFE · 28 Dec 2017, 2:48AM

Well kixeye at the moment in the game no fleets will be getting in top end bases,so how are we meant to get bounty points?, please make a video and show us how 99% of the player's arn't going to get in a good base with the fleets we have at the moment, u need to hold of on the bounty, or spawn more jackpot targets or i can tell u now you will not have many player's doing this bounty as i know of a lot of player's who are passing this bounty up due to the fact they can't get in top end bases...

IamZonk · 28 Dec 2017, 3:00AM

Agreed. Most top end bases have adjusted very quickly to the Evis, KW, Brennus/ sloth combos ect. This has become another PVE event that is just tedious. Pass

John Murray · 28 Dec 2017, 3:40AM

i agree totally this is getting harder and harder with targets barely staying around for 5 mins its getting to costly on time and coin to not get bounty points from high end bases i cant get into and have to sit here all day and night think ill pick work over bounty not gonna waste my whole weekend again to not get top prizes!!!

Treason · 28 Dec 2017, 4:53AM

Yup. NO ONE can get in my bases and 99% of bases that will have bounty for myself and other high lvl players in the top 5-10 allies are unassailable too. Which **** what is essentially a good part of the game. I am definitely not coining this bounty just to beat my head against a brick wall and would say most of the players that were your income in the last lot of bounties wont be either. Needs fixing.

gary.hahn.10 · 28 Dec 2017, 4:58AM

Tell us why we should, top prize here will be in Raid in 2 months tops, so any who do get it will have to coin the crap out of it to use it.

JESTER9456 · 28 Dec 2017, 5:19AM

I agree! In the past bounty's. The top prizes cost a premium to obtain. This meaning you had to make all check points every day to have a glimmer of a chance to get those new items. If you put in the hard work and were able to scratch out the bounty you needed. Your reward would be you would have an advantage over players who did not. But per usual, Kix changed it's mind 3 bounty's in and put the bounty prize in the raid a week later. kinda a nice FU to all who busted there **** to win them. That aside, with the amount of bounty needed to obtain the newest tech and with most bases near impossible to break at the moment. I'm not sure why any one would want to start and do the bounty. You would quickly come to a point where you could not gain bounty from hitting bases.

gary.hahn.10 · 28 Dec 2017, 5:21AM

Does anyone proof read what you put out in Bounty Briefing? " You must log in and claim this bonus on Friday 12/1 from 3pm - 4:55pm PST."
Little past 12\1 don't you think?

aagnii · 28 Dec 2017, 6:59AM

Bounty is a definate winner for the company.. increased base hitting = money spinner.. !!
Given present overload of base def hulls and weps.. its lop sided towards the defender

Tactical base hitting.. thats what PvP is.
With the present T 6 and 6.5 hulls, the Kinetic motion cannon , 403k single projectile ballistic damage.. its game over for most hulls right at the start
The eviscerator, good baser but weakness to corrosive.. doesnt leave much for tactical manouevering .. its a no-go in a top end base

The kingwrits and lesser hulls dont even stand a chance ( the Twinblade was a disaster.. junk so to speak fm the word go )
This is in regard to top end base hitting and hitters, battles which actually make the money..

Bounty bases do help but thats not the PvP aspect. Of at all this is a viable option for points, but the spawn times for the Jackpot targets are a unknown variable. Most miss this as its not possible to stay on the chair 24/7.. Think this over !

Look into the balance of the PvP base hitting structure to make events balanced and get this aspect to be fun and more competitive. Will bring more players back or keep the present ones interested.
Without these issues being addressed, the bounty is not gonna work as intended as many are going to skip it ..

LSD68 · 28 Dec 2017, 7:57AM

gary.hahn.10 said:

Does anyone proof read what you put out in Bounty Briefing? " You must log in and claim this bonus on Friday 12/1 from 3pm - 4:55pm PST."
Little past 12\1 don't you think?

even if they correct the date... it's in the middle of my night, do they really expect me to set an alarm to collect a bonus.

Milo-Ant · 28 Dec 2017, 8:46AM

JESTER9456 said:

I agree! In the past bounty's. The top prizes cost a premium to obtain. This meaning you had to make all check points every day to have a glimmer of a chance to get those new items. If you put in the hard work and were able to scratch out the bounty you needed. Your reward would be you would have an advantage over players who did not. But per usual, Kix changed it's mind 3 bounty's in and put the bounty prize in the raid a week later. kinda a nice FU to all who busted there **** to win them. That aside, with the amount of bounty needed to obtain the newest tech and with most bases near impossible to break at the moment. I'm not sure why any one would want to start and do the bounty. You would quickly come to a point where you could not gain bounty from hitting bases.

Bounty was always never going to work.

It is set on limiting prizes to top players, who are then the only ones with a chance in next bounty etc etc...numbers of winners has to go down each time.it's not rocket science

Angus_B · 28 Dec 2017, 8:53AM

Bounty is just like the Arena after 2/3 runs its finished and few take part

The Qing · 28 Dec 2017, 10:01AM

@Milo-Ant said:
JESTER9456 said:

I agree! In the past bounty's. The top prizes cost a premium to obtain. This meaning you had to make all check points every day to have a glimmer of a chance to get those new items. If you put in the hard work and were able to scratch out the bounty you needed. Your reward would be you would have an advantage over players who did not. But per usual, Kix changed it's mind 3 bounty's in and put the bounty prize in the raid a week later. kinda a nice FU to all who busted there **** to win them. That aside, with the amount of bounty needed to obtain the newest tech and with most bases near impossible to break at the moment. I'm not sure why any one would want to start and do the bounty. You would quickly come to a point where you could not gain bounty from hitting bases.

Bounty was always never going to work.

It is set on limiting prizes to top players, who are then the only ones with a chance in next bounty etc etc...numbers of winners has to go down each time.it's not rocket science

that would be true, except that bounty prizes have always been offered in the next raid or two. The gap isn't as wide as some may think.

greenback1 · 28 Dec 2017, 11:13AM

The Qing said:

@Milo-Ant said:
JESTER9456 said:

I agree! In the past bounty's. The top prizes cost a premium to obtain. This meaning you had to make all check points every day to have a glimmer of a chance to get those new items. If you put in the hard work and were able to scratch out the bounty you needed. Your reward would be you would have an advantage over players who did not. But per usual, Kix changed it's mind 3 bounty's in and put the bounty prize in the raid a week later. kinda a nice FU to all who busted there **** to win them. That aside, with the amount of bounty needed to obtain the newest tech and with most bases near impossible to break at the moment. I'm not sure why any one would want to start and do the bounty. You would quickly come to a point where you could not gain bounty from hitting bases.

Bounty was always never going to work.

It is set on limiting prizes to top players, who are then the only ones with a chance in next bounty etc etc...numbers of winners has to go down each time.it's not rocket science

that would be true, except that bounty prizes have always been offered in the next raid or two. The gap isn't as wide as some may think.

Seems to be even more reason to sit out the Bounty...?

Specialist aka Specs · 28 Dec 2017, 1:31PM

all they need to do is cap the Fuel Air Munitions and Fire Support 2 aura's that can be stacked and viola the problem solved

yes I have pushed for that to be fixed as it is the most simplest way to fix the issue that does not lead to even more power creep.

TheDragon · 28 Dec 2017, 3:37PM

Specialist aka Specs said:

all they need to do is cap the Fuel Air Munitions and Fire Support 2 aura's that can be stacked and viola the problem solved

yes I have pushed for that to be fixed as it is the most simplest way to fix the issue that does not lead to even more power creep.

doing this will turn the power to the attacker........boosting turrets is the only way to defeat high deflection hulls

Specialist aka Specs · 28 Dec 2017, 3:48PM

TheDragon said:

Specialist aka Specs said:

all they need to do is cap the Fuel Air Munitions and Fire Support 2 aura's that can be stacked and viola the problem solved

yes I have pushed for that to be fixed as it is the most simplest way to fix the issue that does not lead to even more power creep.

doing this will turn the power to the attacker........boosting turrets is the only way to defeat high deflection hulls

No. It would put it back to balance and require players to actually figure out designs and layouts that do not rely on a single turret, five warehouses and the OP.

You guys are not serious about addressing the issue if your solution is more power creep.

festus · 28 Dec 2017, 3:50PM

Agreed fleets that one or two weeks ago could get in good bases now they cant ...simple really if you cant get in bases =no bounty =no hull = no hull to coin = no coin for kix and that does not even take into the amount of seat time required ...need more jackpot to spawn if you want people to win the enough to get the hull ...so far i see no reason to waste my coin on this bounty ...

iwona.esser.1 · 28 Dec 2017, 4:04PM

@Specialist aka Specs said:
all they need to do is cap the Fuel Air Munitions and Fire Support 2 aura's that can be stacked and viola the problem solved

yes I have pushed for that to be fixed as it is the most simplest way to fix the issue that does not lead to even more power creep.

Q

Its a shame that people are disliking your post. I think your idea is by far the best way to fix it. It will allow kixeye to finally balance the conquerors and turrets they release.

Specialist aka Specs · 28 Dec 2017, 4:13PM

iwona.esser.1 said:

@Specialist aka Specs said:
all they need to do is cap the Fuel Air Munitions and Fire Support 2 aura's that can be stacked and viola the problem solved

yes I have pushed for that to be fixed as it is the most simplest way to fix the issue that does not lead to even more power creep.

Q

Its a shame that people are disliking your post. I think your idea is by far the best way to fix it. It will allow kixeye to finally balance the conquerors and turrets they release.

It is because they got lazy and found an easy way to defend their bases from everything. I do not fault them for it, but they are not helping the game by crying about not being able to break bases and then fight against the cause of that problem.

That or they are not being honest with themselves or others on why base hitting/defense is broke right now.

If this is ever fixed I think it will lead to a gigantic meltdown on the forums. The alternative is to put out conqueror hulls with explosive deflection in the millions and then they will negate the latest defenders. The cycle needs to be broken and they need to just fix the underlying cause of the problem. That cause is the FAM2/FS2 spam.

kixeyeuser_1384609903109_100003522404108 · 28 Dec 2017, 4:13PM

bounty is broke and kix cant see it.first top end players know they cant get in each others bases. so they have to hunt farms. but the farms only reach a certian lvl of points which is quickly passed by the top players leaving them no targets to hit. also every new bounty their are less and less farms joining. because they get hit every 4 hours thus stopping research and structer builds and leaving them with a dead dock for 3 out of 4 hours so they can only play for 1 without investing a large amount of coin over event just to beable to play with no hope of claiming the good prizes. and now we have nexus this would have been a great thing but the way it is their is about 5 allis that will hold all the nexuses locking out 99 percent of the players from them. we know that many players have offered great ideas to fix these problems but kix is unwilling to listen so in the end this will fall by the wayside like the arena did.

TheDragon · 28 Dec 2017, 4:15PM

Specialist aka Specs said:

iwona.esser.1 said:

@Specialist aka Specs said:
all they need to do is cap the Fuel Air Munitions and Fire Support 2 aura's that can be stacked and viola the problem solved

yes I have pushed for that to be fixed as it is the most simplest way to fix the issue that does not lead to even more power creep.

Q

Its a shame that people are disliking your post. I think your idea is by far the best way to fix it. It will allow kixeye to finally balance the conquerors and turrets they release.

It is because they got lazy and found an easy way to defend their bases from everything. I do not fault them for it, but they are not helping the game by crying about not being able to break bases and then fight against the cause of that problem.

That or they are not being honest with themselves or others on why base hitting/defense is broke right now.

only way to beat deflection, deflection broke the game

kixeyeuser_1365369523405_14232_1309869729 · 28 Dec 2017, 4:54PM

Wait a minute.... Last I heard, the King's Writ had invincible deflection, the lowest being 26K for concussion with armor. So what turret is putting out that kind of damage other than the Omega, which is not much use if they keep moving? I was thinking we were back in the 'phase' of base design where nothing I do matters against OP ships, and now you're all saying bases are the OP thing? Well, please educate. HOW are these top end bases stopping KWs? I mean, except with other KWs.

kixeyeuser_1384609903109_100003522404108 · 28 Dec 2017, 4:58PM

kixeyeuser_1365369523405_14232_1309869729 said:

Wait a minute.... Last I heard, the King's Writ had invincible deflection, the lowest being 26K for concussion with armor. So what turret is putting out that kind of damage other than the Omega, which is not much use if they keep moving? I was thinking we were back in the 'phase' of base design where nothing I do matters against OP ships, and now you're all saying bases are the OP thing? Well, please educate. HOW are these top end bases stopping KWs? I mean, except with other KWs.

HOPE

John1975 · 28 Dec 2017, 5:25PM

its not epic cats and FA2 FS 2 etc. When was last time you had a mort land? They all get shot down. Prob is Pun#2 hd no corrosive deflection and the "new" top prize only 8K corrosive and 9K rad deflection????? Thats not even going to make the entrance on most bases. Few nightmare torps few scaterguns on few gluts unsnipable parked inside the channel so ships have to drive over them = no one getting in impossible add to that a Hope and new Omega forget it lucky if they can even give you a bubble that you try to spoon feed to them.

DarkMercenary · 28 Dec 2017, 5:30PM

kixeyeuser_1365369523405_14232_1309869729 said:

Wait a minute.... Last I heard, the King's Writ had invincible deflection, the lowest being 26K for concussion with armor. So what turret is putting out that kind of damage other than the Omega, which is not much use if they keep moving? I was thinking we were back in the 'phase' of base design where nothing I do matters against OP ships, and now you're all saying bases are the OP thing? Well, please educate. HOW are these top end bases stopping KWs? I mean, except with other KWs.

My KW gets hit even when it keeps moving lol. I don't have sloths or BUS so it melts every time

Greg Louis · 28 Dec 2017, 7:10PM

what is the bandit base spawn time/schedule? was just on my way to a couple that i had found and they despawned right then, it was 12:01. as i write this (now 12:08) no more have spawned. can you give a schedule please? is this like the old targets that would spawn for a couple hours and then take an hour or so break?

Fred.Falkland · 28 Dec 2017, 8:01PM

kixeyeuser_1365369523405_14232_1309869729 said:

Wait a minute.... Last I heard, the King's Writ had invincible deflection, the lowest being 26K for concussion with armor. So what turret is putting out that kind of damage other than the Omega, which is not much use if they keep moving? I was thinking we were back in the 'phase' of base design where nothing I do matters against OP ships, and now you're all saying bases are the OP thing? Well, please educate. HOW are these top end bases stopping KWs? I mean, except with other KWs.

Critical Hits from Epic Cats, Emancipators, Flail rockets on Hope, often in conjunction with slow fields from Phantom Glut or Omni. As previously discussed in the Emancipators kill Kings Writ thread, a critical hit appears to defeat deflection, otherwise the math doesn't work.

wing-dang-doodle · 28 Dec 2017, 8:08PM

its not looking good kix

John1975 · 28 Dec 2017, 8:19PM

I saw there was a jackpot spawn right off top. Looks like what I suspected. Kix is pushing it to be a 2nd PVE event. smashing player bases gets them no $$$ put it out as that get people excited about it then make it so you have to hit PVE targets which do more damage than players base does. Just look at stats on 2 new hulls they are going to do absolutely nothing vs even just a ok base. Now you see BOBs will get amped up and thats what you will have to hit.

Milo-Ant · 28 Dec 2017, 8:19PM

Specialist aka Specs said:

iwona.esser.1 said:

@Specialist aka Specs said:
all they need to do is cap the Fuel Air Munitions and Fire Support 2 aura's that can be stacked and viola the problem solved

yes I have pushed for that to be fixed as it is the most simplest way to fix the issue that does not lead to even more power creep.

Q

Its a shame that people are disliking your post. I think your idea is by far the best way to fix it. It will allow kixeye to finally balance the conquerors and turrets they release.

It is because they got lazy and found an easy way to defend their bases from everything. I do not fault them for it, but they are not helping the game by crying about not being able to break bases and then fight against the cause of that problem.

That or they are not being honest with themselves or others on why base hitting/defense is broke right now.

If this is ever fixed I think it will lead to a gigantic meltdown on the forums. The alternative is to put out conqueror hulls with explosive deflection in the millions and then they will negate the latest defenders. The cycle needs to be broken and they need to just fix the underlying cause of the problem. That cause is the FAM2/FS2 spam.

they brought the problem into existence by probably not knowing their own game?

personally I do not see an answer to the problem without causing yet more problems, there is no balance at all left.

I would love to be able to tell you/them how to overcome it, but unfortunately I can't

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