New Level Structure (Part 2)

  • Gavin Hoare
    Gavin Hoare
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 24
    I know I'm a little late in saying this but I feel as though the attack ranges where better than what it is now.

    My only problem is that alot of attackers from my neighboring sectors (286 and 288) only attack player between lvl's 40 and 50. Yes I believe that the game has improved however once you reach a certain point in the game, namely lvl 50+, people stop attacking u in favour of easier prey.

    If I had a say in this new and so called improved way is say that people above lvl 40 can only hit people within a 10-lvl range. This makes everyone have just as many targets as people below 40 and gives people between lvl 40 and 50 a chance to actually improve there skill, base defenses and fleets. And plus, I find it boring when u see everyone around you getting attacked and not u. How are we suppose to assess our base defenses against new ship if no-one hits us.

    I know some of you enjoy the fact that hitting 40-45 people is fun though the best why to enjoy the game is to actually learn. Just cause ur happen to be a high lvl player doesnt mean you cant learn a thing or two.
  • iamsam_78
    iamsam_78
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 8
    My enjoyment of this game is waning. You allow people with extremely better equipment to attack lvl 40 and above. I am lvl 42 and getting hit by lvl 52s and above. I cannot finish research and I get hit everyday. I am starting to hate playing and if a change isn't made I will quit this game. Fix it PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Gavin Hoare
    Gavin Hoare
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 24
    This is my point. Yeah Im a lvl 50 but I enjoyed being hit be higher lvl people so I know that I need to make slight improvements to my defence or fleets. Yeah I do hit people 3 or lvl's 4 below but it isnt as good as hitting a base that u can learn from. I say bring back the bands as before, just let people over lvl 50 hit a wider range of bases say 7-8 lvl's +/-.

    And as for people who hit fleets while bubbled. Well, I think if they change that rule so the bubble drops even after fleet battles, all i can say is this game is going to die quickly. I know why they're doing it, but they first have to fix all the game glitches first then consider and maybe even put it to a poll.

    Changes like these arent going to win Kixeye any new players. I know, I have seen many games makes changes like these and it always lead to one thing. EVERYONE QUITING.
  • Angel Eyez
    Angel Eyez
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 3
    This honestly has me inching closer to hitting deleting the game and blocking it. I dont mind getting hit, but constantly getting hit by a lvl 64 when you are lvl 48 is a bit much. How do you expect anyone to grow like this.
  • DAEMONICUS
    DAEMONICUS
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 1,394
    I think Kixeye's numbers are incorrect as it stands to the new level structure system. You have it posted above that a lvl 33 becomes a lvl 51 according to the new system. I was a lvl 33 in the old system and I became a lvl 53. Is there a misprint in this? Also I noticed that the points necessary to upgrade to the next level decreased dramatically from the old to the new system. Is this also something that will be a current trend?
  • Khutumi
    Khutumi
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    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 283
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  • John1975
    John1975
    Master Tactician
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 2,318
    I think the level thing was a good idea but it needs a few tweaks. Her is my personal happenings on the change. I was level 27 needed approx. 15K xp to be level 28. My NL 10 upgrade was 14hrs from completing which would have made me level 28 and some change. The change happened within min of my NL finishing up. I went to level 37 only needing 15K xp to level 38. I hd to fill my WH to search DU4 filling my WH for that made me level 38 and 3/4 I thin fill up WH again to start WL upgrade and I leveled to 39. I am now level 39 and 3/4 basically I went from level 27 to level 40 and have done nothing I will in no way be able to compete with all the high levels. I am a coiner not a heavy coiner (been playing for 3-4 months spent about $400 on coins)

    I think the "shark tank" should be level 45 with how far you booster the low levels. 45+ hits everything higher than 45 and 45- is +-5. In reality I am level 29 and will be fighting with level 50+

    I am all about some good fights that why I play the game that why I spent money to get so I can compete and have fun but current new system it not going to happen.
    BadMoFo RYFG TTMX Level 97
  • Bill Belida
    Bill Belida
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 4
    I am a lvl 40 player and cannot get ahead because lvl 50's can attack me.
    I think it is bull crap kixeye that you have change the attack levels.
    If this was the way to get more people to spend money you are as greedy as Kabam.
    A lot of people who like it this way are most likely the people who are attacking lower level players.
    A bad all around Idea Kixeye.
    It is getting to the point that I might as well quit the game and turn my base into a farm.
  • Paul William Holland
    Paul William Holland
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 15
    i do not think this is a good idea.i am constantly being attacked by much higher level players.No sooner am i out of a bubble then i am attacked again and back in one.This is making the game unplayable and i am getting sick of constlantly haveing to wait for my base to repair.it is pointless trying to salv for res as soon as i get it,it gets taken away again so i can not get anywhere in the game.you need to put the game back to what it was before you brought out the update so that middle players like myself a least have a chance of getting somewhere.pppppllllllllleeeeaaaasssssseee.put the game back to what it was.I am a level 43 and i have just been attacked by a level 66.how can that be right.
  • MW-Seadragon
    MW-Seadragon
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 4
    I"m a level 41 and I must echo the same sentiments as the 2 previous posters, this is getting ridiculous, and the game is becoming totally unplayable, much less enjoyable. I'm constantly being hit by players 12-15 lvls higher than me, sorry but that is a flawed system folks, no way shape or form can I compete with that as it is currently. Yeah I know all the high level players are gonna say we are crying but play a week in our shoes and you'll be singing a differant tune trust me. I was happy with the change back to the old salvages, but this new base structure needs some adjustment, not a total changeback, but some adjustment to allow us mid levelers a chance to get somewhere without our bases being leveled everytime we sign in, with the reduction in bubble time, this new structure just isn't fair to us at all. I coin some, but will not coin another dime till something changes, where I at least have a fighting chance. As it is now we are on nothing but suicide missions everytime we sign out of our bases.
  • Prosperous
    Prosperous
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 21
    Well for me i am loving the new level changes, i am level 42 and have been flattened by level 57 twice a 55 once, a 54 entered lost half a fleet and retreated, got a nice message saying nice base, so i change the design of my base when i find its weakness, i am in an alliance which the higher players have the better basers and if they want the guard took out of a level 60 at least now i don't see this player is too high to attack, and my best fleet is the bc.
    If i am attacked when offline it is a bummer for the waiting times to repair, but i leave my dock at dock 8 and its only a 2 hour repair, when i have better ships i will update dock but in the meantime i am upgrading advanced lab to 9, soon to start 10 so i can get the level 3 specials and at least have a fighting chance, so chin up guys, its still all fun also basing it on old levels a 35 is now a 60 and i have not been attacked yet from a level 60.
  • Dakkar
    Dakkar
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 17

    Updated Attack Ranges
    Along with the new distance rules described above, we're updating the attack range rules to further increase the number of valid targets, especially for high level players. The +/- 5 Level range is remaining, but would no longer apply to players level 40 and above (currently level 29).

    Attack Range Summary (note all Levels are the new Levels):
    • Attack range remains at +/- 5 Levels up to Level 39.
    • Players Level 40 and above can be attacked by any player Level 40 and above.
    • Note, Levels 40-44 can still attack/be attacked by Levels 35-39 due to the +/- 5 rule still in effect for those lower Levels.
    • FYI, Current Level 29 will be Level 40 in the new system
    As a new player this is quite frustrating to me, second only to the bluescreen/SOS errors. I've been playing about 2 months, just hit lvl 40, still have months and months of research to do, and I now have 50+ players beating on me regularly. With the level cap off, the maxed out 50-somethings are now free to farm the @#$@# out of the new guys, making it that much harder for us to ever catch up. This new policy just further promotes the bullying...

    In the new level system +/- 5 levels would not have been as bad as before, but why allow the 'elite' to beat on us little guys at all? How is this not supposed to be frustrating to us? And how is this any sort of challenge for them?

    I propose pirates only be allowed to attack players of equal or greater strength unless you were previously attacked by someone smaller! Force players to seek out more challenging fights!
  • Drax
    Drax
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,719
    I am fed up with people **** about being a level 40 and being attacked by a level 50:mad:

    under the old sytem level 40 was a level 29 and a level 55 was a level 34 and the attack rules were +/- 5 level so level 50 under the old sytem would have been able to attack the level 29 anyhow

    the only time a level 40 should **** and gripe is when they get attacked by anyone level 56 and above if you are going to continue to compair to the old system - and it is about time you learned that no one give a flying fart and it is time to accept this is how it is

    and in case you are wondering I am a level 39 in the new system soon to be opened up to all that can farm me from above - and I will deal with it, learn and adapt.... they are not changing it back
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  • Zen17ofcZen1
    Zen17ofcZen1
    Greenhorn
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 2
    Please lower the high level players abilities to attack level 40ish players. you are losing players to frustration with our inability to defend against these far superior levels.
  • MW-Seadragon
    MW-Seadragon
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 4
    Drax wrote: »
    I am fed up with people **** about being a level 40 and being attacked by a level 50:mad:

    under the old sytem level 40 was a level 29 and a level 55 was a level 34 and the attack rules were +/- 5 level so level 50 under the old sytem would have been able to attack the level 29 anyhow

    the only time a level 40 should **** and gripe is when they get attacked by anyone level 56 and above if you are going to continue to compair to the old system - and it is about time you learned that no one give a flying fart and it is time to accept this is how it is

    and in case you are wondering I am a level 39 in the new system soon to be opened up to all that can farm me from above - and I will deal with it, learn and adapt.... they are not changing it back

    Well no S$#% sherlock, I would have never figured that out, but under the old system, levels 35 and above couldn't attack me relentlessly while I build up my base, and fleets. I'm fed up with blow hards like you who obviously have no life and nothing better to do than sit and play Bp all day. I only have a couple hours to play each day due to having said life, and am getting tired of signing on to a 3 1/2 hour dock repair each time I do. I didn't ask them to change it back, just tweak it so we don't get hammered by people we have no chance of retaliating against. And not all of us are in an alliance, or group to where we can call on them for revenge, or to help us out. You'll be a lvl 40 soon and you'll see what we are talking about, dipwad!
  • 987sechs
    987sechs
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 357
    59s spawn 71 level cargos then?
  • MagicSarap
    MagicSarap
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 5,522
    Closing as this change has been implemented in the game already.
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