Kraken

Nation-of-1
Nation-of-1
Minor Nuisance
Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 262
Funny how the intended strength of this unit means it loses a 1v1 to an adra without even doing 20% damage to it, It cant kill anything its pathetic..The only use for this unit is to kill Gen1-2 faction units which were never an issue for the balance of the game. We needed something that could hurt Raptors/gunships and the uniques in heavy toons. the 'Bugged' damage that we had yesterday with it was 100x better for balance than this floppy piece of **** we got now. You wanna make this unit viable at all then the damage must be buffed 6x and reduce the amount of units it can target by half. then its killable but useable. Dunno what else to say what a waste of time fix your game and listen to the top pvp players and spenders it would really make all the difference. 

This is the intended damage of a maxed full ws kraken. 
  • GamerRainbowdash
    GamerRainbowdash
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 564
    Now this is the problem with listening to only the people that spend money now the free to play game is ruined for the 80% of people that dont spend money so you dont just change a unit because someone who spends money says so the Kraken is fine it does 3million dps to 16 targets at once not 3million to one target that wouldnt make any sense then everyone could just put technicals a Judge and a Kraken in there base and now noone can be flat 4 threads have been closed over people spending money on a game coining a unit day one without understanding a thing about it and then yelling about refunds day one in the test base everyone really should have known not to coin it you made the decision to spend money and even if kixeye did make changes which they did not in their TOS it says they reserve the right to change things without prior notice and its their game


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  • Jim93843
    Jim93843
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 2,672
    i thought 2,500,000 damage to as many as 16 targets would be a good thing.
    are you saying you want it buffed to 15,000,000 and reduced to only 6 targets?
    ..
    maybe its not the solution to a ds, romero, ardra assault.. but it should work wonders against the spammed hordes of ravagers and a dozen phalanx
  • MISS PACMAN
    MISS PACMAN
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2016 Posts: 3
    Saves me wasting my time doing the bases,thanks nation
  • nametagg0
    nametagg0
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2016 Posts: 4,140
    darkstorm was discredited as useless when it came out, and it lost targeting vs air on launch.
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  • Axel L
    Axel L
    WC Mod
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 10,755
    edited 14 Jan 2019, 10:10PM
    nametagg0 said:
    darkstorm was discredited as useless when it came out, and it lost targeting vs air on launch.
    In fact, the Darkstorm did actually never truly have an air targeting ability. The only word we got about an air targeting ability for the Darkstorm was in the Shadow Ops briefing for the first 3 phases in the campaign when the Darkstorm got officially announced for the first time.
    Video games don't cause violence, lag does.
  • nametagg0
    nametagg0
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    Joined Jan 2016 Posts: 4,140
    Axel L said:
    nametagg0 said:
    darkstorm was discredited as useless when it came out, and it lost targeting vs air on launch.
    In fact, the Darkstorm did actually never truly have an air targeting ability. The only word we got about an air targeting ability for the Darkstorm was in the Shadow Ops briefing for the first 3 phases in the campaign when the Darkstorm got officially announced for the first time.
    yes, therefore it lost that ability between announcement and launch.
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      the pessimist looks down and loses the path
      the strategist looks forward and adjusts accordingly" 
  • Axel L
    Axel L
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 10,755
    nametagg0 said:
    Axel L said:
    nametagg0 said:
    darkstorm was discredited as useless when it came out, and it lost targeting vs air on launch.
    In fact, the Darkstorm did actually never truly have an air targeting ability. The only word we got about an air targeting ability for the Darkstorm was in the Shadow Ops briefing for the first 3 phases in the campaign when the Darkstorm got officially announced for the first time.
    yes, therefore it lost that ability between announcement and launch.
    Another possibility is actually that there was a typo in the announcement which got corrected a month after in the next briefing. Even if it's any of these options, kixeye have every single right to change a unit between announce and release in order to the unit better at reflecting its role in the battlefield.
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  • nametagg0
    nametagg0
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    Axel L said:
    nametagg0 said:
    Axel L said:
    nametagg0 said:
    darkstorm was discredited as useless when it came out, and it lost targeting vs air on launch.
    In fact, the Darkstorm did actually never truly have an air targeting ability. The only word we got about an air targeting ability for the Darkstorm was in the Shadow Ops briefing for the first 3 phases in the campaign when the Darkstorm got officially announced for the first time.
    yes, therefore it lost that ability between announcement and launch.
    Another possibility is actually that there was a typo in the announcement which got corrected a month after in the next briefing. Even if it's any of these options, kixeye have every single right to change a unit between announce and release in order to the unit better at reflecting its role in the battlefield.
    wasnt saying they didnt have the right to change a unit, merely observing the fact that the announcement information and the released abilities wernt the same.
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      the pessimist looks down and loses the path
      the strategist looks forward and adjusts accordingly" 
  • Nation-of-1
    Nation-of-1
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 262
    Jim93843 said:
    i thought 2,500,000 damage to as many as 16 targets would be a good thing.
    are you saying you want it buffed to 15,000,000 and reduced to only 6 targets?
    ..
    maybe its not the solution to a ds, romero, ardra assault.. but it should work wonders against the spammed hordes of ravagers and a dozen phalanx
    Right now the issue is all attacking ground units are uniques, nobody is flatting you with phalanx or other ****, The only units the kraken would be good against with its ability to target 16 units at once are gunships and raptors, but it does 0 damage to both cause its a pea shooter.. you see my point? its damage is useless its that simple 
  • Nation-of-1
    Nation-of-1
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    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 262
    Now this is the problem with listening to only the people that spend money now the free to play game is ruined for the 80% of people that dont spend money so you dont just change a unit because someone who spends money says so the Kraken is fine it does 3million dps to 16 targets at once not 3million to one target that wouldnt make any sense then everyone could just put technicals a Judge and a Kraken in there base and now noone can be flat 4 threads have been closed over people spending money on a game coining a unit day one without understanding a thing about it and then yelling about refunds day one in the test base everyone really should have known not to coin it you made the decision to spend money and even if kixeye did make changes which they did not in their TOS it says they reserve the right to change things without prior notice and its their game


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    but thats clearly not the problem is it, cause kix dont give a **** about the people who spend money they only care about the famers who cry on forums and spend nothing and have no clue how the game is played. The game is extremely unbalanced right now towards attack if you cant see that then your part of the problem. I can flat the 5 best bases in the game without repairing my toon that is not balance, a lv42 with medium level units in 1 platoon flatting a lv49 with a maxed base and maxed units is not balance. Strong players should flat strong players, weak players should have a chance to flat strong players but at a higher cost meaning multiple toons. Basically ya stupid. 
  • astrogah.roundy
    astrogah.roundy
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 154
    You have Always known kixeye they make something look real good at the start in high hopes of getting you to spend then right when they do recieve that money they pull the rug right out from under you. nothing surprises me any more with kixeye i just know that they are the SCUM of the earth 
    oh and dont worry kixeye will do it again 
  • GamerRainbowdash
    GamerRainbowdash
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 564
    Now this is the problem with listening to only the people that spend money now the free to play game is ruined for the 80% of people that dont spend money so you dont just change a unit because someone who spends money says so the Kraken is fine it does 3million dps to 16 targets at once not 3million to one target that wouldnt make any sense then everyone could just put technicals a Judge and a Kraken in there base and now noone can be flat 4 threads have been closed over people spending money on a game coining a unit day one without understanding a thing about it and then yelling about refunds day one in the test base everyone really should have known not to coin it you made the decision to spend money and even if kixeye did make changes which they did not in their TOS it says they reserve the right to change things without prior notice and its their game


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    but thats clearly not the problem is it, cause kix dont give a **** about the people who spend money they only care about the famers who cry on forums and spend nothing and have no clue how the game is played. The game is extremely unbalanced right now towards attack if you cant see that then your part of the problem. I can flat the 5 best bases in the game without repairing my toon that is not balance, a lv42 with medium level units in 1 platoon flatting a lv49 with a maxed base and maxed units is not balance. Strong players should flat strong players, weak players should have a chance to flat strong players but at a higher cost meaning multiple toons. Basically ya stupid. 
    so your solution is to add in a gamebreaking unit that kills everything without dying?
  • GamerRainbowdash
    GamerRainbowdash
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 564
    I think all of us are stupid because they told us it would be changed
    https://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/754046
  • Zaeolos
    Zaeolos
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2017 Posts: 19
    Maybe everyone should learn to use the units for what they're meant for instead of crying about it while using it for something it's not.  You're not going to do much damage against a tank with focused damage, with a tank using AOE.
  • Jesse5285
    Jesse5285
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 178
    I myself coined the kraken to max. I didnt expect it to be hard to kill but i did expect it to take out raptors and gunships. It is sad that it doesn't for the fact that there is only a few units that are almost impossible to defend against. It would have been nice to have a defender that can help defense level the playing field. Very bummed on how weak the unit attacks considering the specs on the unit left pple to assume it was going to be powerful for defense but infact my base is stronger without it in my base. that fact alone says it all with this being a new gen unit. 
  • FBHO
    FBHO
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 1,694
    It shouldn't have been changed - it already had weaknesses - slow, medium range, defense only, no splash. 

    While it's needed to stop all the people that just spam Siege Squadron with a bunch of other air, it should be able to fire multiple shots at the same enemy if there's only 1 enemy within range - especially against PVP Raptors & other ground uniques.  

    and how does it deal "sustain" damage if it can only fire one shot at a target?


  • Nation-of-1
    Nation-of-1
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    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 262
    Now this is the problem with listening to only the people that spend money now the free to play game is ruined for the 80% of people that dont spend money so you dont just change a unit because someone who spends money says so the Kraken is fine it does 3million dps to 16 targets at once not 3million to one target that wouldnt make any sense then everyone could just put technicals a Judge and a Kraken in there base and now noone can be flat 4 threads have been closed over people spending money on a game coining a unit day one without understanding a thing about it and then yelling about refunds day one in the test base everyone really should have known not to coin it you made the decision to spend money and even if kixeye did make changes which they did not in their TOS it says they reserve the right to change things without prior notice and its their game


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    but thats clearly not the problem is it, cause kix dont give a **** about the people who spend money they only care about the famers who cry on forums and spend nothing and have no clue how the game is played. The game is extremely unbalanced right now towards attack if you cant see that then your part of the problem. I can flat the 5 best bases in the game without repairing my toon that is not balance, a lv42 with medium level units in 1 platoon flatting a lv49 with a maxed base and maxed units is not balance. Strong players should flat strong players, weak players should have a chance to flat strong players but at a higher cost meaning multiple toons. Basically ya stupid. 
    so your solution is to add in a gamebreaking unit that kills everything without dying?
    I showed a vid where in 50 seconds it did half health to a ds, so 6x damage it'd still take like 15seconds to kill a darkstorm it'd die before it could wipe out a heavy toon so no what my solution is, is to make it useful but not overpowered. 
  • Nation-of-1
    Nation-of-1
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 262
    Zaeolos said:
    Maybe everyone should learn to use the units for what they're meant for instead of crying about it while using it for something it's not.  You're not going to do much damage against a tank with focused damage, with a tank using AOE.

    But for its intended use its useless.. what do people attack with right now hm lets see. Raptors gunships siege phantom ds romero nova jugg adra.. it does 0 damage to anything there its completely useless attack is very overpowered with that and pvp players were looking for something to balance things out, we thought we had it so coiners coined it then we get told its just a bug and its meant to be weak? wanna hear u defend that. 
  • ES-hulk
    ES-hulk
    Potential Threat
    Joined Nov 2018 Posts: 77
    edited 16 Jan 2019, 9:18AM
    Funny how the intended strength of this unit means it loses a 1v1 to an adra without even doing 20% damage to it, It cant kill anything its pathetic..The only use for this unit is to kill Gen1-2 faction units which were never an issue for the balance of the game. We needed something that could hurt Raptors/gunships and the uniques in heavy toons. the 'Bugged' damage that we had yesterday with it was 100x better for balance than this floppy piece of **** we got now. You wanna make this unit viable at all then the damage must be buffed 6x and reduce the amount of units it can target by half. then its killable but useable. Dunno what else to say what a waste of time fix your game and listen to the top pvp players and spenders it would really make all the difference. 

    This is the intended damage of a maxed full ws kraken. 
    first when you talk about FARMERS make sure you enter you own game that you Farm all day,and stop using Jordans game and his money,this is not you game,you are braking TOS rules of the game,I can enter my friend game and spend his gold and come here call my self a big spending coiner,well the truth is that you game Nathan you spend not even $0,01 cent on this game,you got banned many many times on past for using cheats,so stop show off like you are big coiner,you did not see yet big coiner how it looks,what will you accept kraker is only lvl10 and you doing test with lvl30 omega darkstorm lol,is 20 lvl difference of course it will be stronger then lvl10,oh i guess you just new coin who spend like $50 $100 a month and rest you you clone toones for free....and you start doing 69 now,oh I guess you out of coin,


  • nametagg0
    nametagg0
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2016 Posts: 4,140

    @Nation-of-1 said:
    Zaeolos said:

    Maybe everyone should learn to use the units for what they're meant for instead of crying about it while using it for something it's not.  You're not going to do much damage against a tank with focused damage, with a tank using AOE.

    But for its intended use its useless.. what do people attack with right now hm lets see. Raptors gunships siege phantom ds romero nova jugg adra.. it does 0 damage to anything there its completely useless attack is very overpowered with that and pvp players were looking for something to balance things out, we thought we had it so coiners coined it then we get told its just a bug and its meant to be weak? wanna hear u defend that. 

    Well ,they stated before the bases spawned that it's not supposed to do that so if you coined it then thats on you for not reading,

    And if they also stated it's damage per shot was at Max just under 300k before tech ( doing the math it's max tech sends it to 450-500k using 300k as a stand in since I don't remember the exact number off the top of my head)

    Either way not exactly ideal damage if you plan to use it against troops with hundreds of millions of health and not swarm units like it's clearly designed for.

    Image result for free to play vs pay to win gif

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      the pessimist looks down and loses the path
      the strategist looks forward and adjusts accordingly" 
  • ES-hulk
    ES-hulk
    Potential Threat
    Joined Nov 2018 Posts: 77
    edited 16 Jan 2019, 9:29AM
    nametagg0 said:

    @Nation-of-1 said:
    Zaeolos said:

    Maybe everyone should learn to use the units for what they're meant for instead of crying about it while using it for something it's not.  You're not going to do much damage against a tank with focused damage, with a tank using AOE.

    But for its intended use its useless.. what do people attack with right now hm lets see. Raptors gunships siege phantom ds romero nova jugg adra.. it does 0 damage to anything there its completely useless attack is very overpowered with that and pvp players were looking for something to balance things out, we thought we had it so coiners coined it then we get told its just a bug and its meant to be weak? wanna hear u defend that. 

    Well ,they stated before the bases spawned that it's not supposed to do that so if you coined it then thats on you for not reading,

    And if they also stated it's damage per shot was at Max just under 300k before tech ( doing the math it's max tech sends it to 450-500k using 300k as a stand in since I don't remember the exact number off the top of my head)

    Either way not exactly ideal damage if you plan to use it against troops with hundreds of millions of health and not swarm units like it's clearly designed for.

    his is a new coin,he dont know how kix deal with units he rush to coin to be on top of other players and he got screed hiihihih P.S. if kix keep the unit strong and after tech come out no one will hit base losing 5-6 platoon on one base,i am sure nathan will learn how to deal next time with coin,he got use to free repairs free upgrades for many years now he call him self big coin and he cry about 800 gold lol,i guess he think spending 800 gold is big....P.S. not sure who u come big coin from no where? when you was in KT team you was KT-Elshad sniper sniping for him all day so you get 1150 gold for free on sunday from KT-Elshad, you have a lot to learn on this game Nathan and since you are just 17-18 years old kid you have plenty of time,and be nice next time coz i will ask you dead to switch you net off till you pay you room rent
  • armspot30
    armspot30
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2018 Posts: 1
    The question is why did kixeye use a known cheaters base with a record of cheating bans for one of the challenge  medal bases?
  • Vegeta9192001
    Vegeta9192001
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Nov 2013 Posts: 839
    kraken would need 70 mil health and triple damage to be any good
  • CM_Burny
    CM_Burny
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    Joined Oct 2017 Posts: 1,462
    Thanks everyone for the feedback on the Kraken. I will bring them up with the team.
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  • Shafron Pile
    Shafron Pile
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2015 Posts: 23
    Just change the name tp Krapen and be done with it, people keep saying "farmers" are ruining the game.  
    They are not, its the people that spend all the money just to pay to win that is ruining the game, its why costs keep climbing (because they will pay it) and why inovation and creativity is stifeld, the game was just fine before all the crazy uniques and limited units came out, now we have ridiculous one use items.

    Only thing good about the game now is some reduced build times, people say it because Kixeye "lisened" I think they realized we would all be 90 years old before we maxed anything.
  • Raubhautz
    Raubhautz
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 94
    Yes, quite sad for me, this whole Kraken escapade turned out. Initially, I was quite excited to see a Corpus Defensive unit that on the demo looked pretty good. (Guessing they put max level one in the base vs lower level attackers.... then get a couple of parts and look on YouTube for more efficient methods of getting the parts... One I saw, 6x shooters and one ODS take the Kraken out with one shot each! lol, yeah. Worthless. So sad. Not sure I will worry about the next 6 parts.

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