8.28 Supremacy Discussion Thread

  • michael.west.750
    michael.west.750
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 1,598
    Pinch rocket and gut phoenix can pinch the turrets on the turret ships. The xl long pinch is for 28 seconds.

    When I pinch a stationary turret ship, the turrets are pinched long enough for me to kill them before the pinch wears off.
    When I pinch a moving turret ship, it pinches the turrets but only while the turrets are where the pinch landed. As soon as the turrets move past that, they start firing again. That's only a few seconds, not 28 seconds.

    Nothing on the pinch rocket says you're actually pinching a spot and stuff will be stunned only while in that spot. It says it pinches buildings for 28 seconds. So the turrets on the turret ships should remain pinched. In fact, the ship itself shouldn't even move for the ship stun time amount. What's that, like 7 seconds? The ship is not being stunned and the turrets aren't getting their full 28 seconds stun time.
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  • TheHolsh
    TheHolsh
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 4,519
    April_S1 said:
    30,267 anyone notice numbers online and thats for a raid.
    Anyone notice that people don't know what this number truly means and still post it like they think that is the amount of people playing BP?
    Image result for one piece gif luffy crew"Are we friends? Or are we foes? That kind of thing you decide for yourselves! "
  • michael.west.750
    michael.west.750
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 1,598
    30,725 PLAYERS ONLINE

    This shows the amount of people that are logged into kixeye dot com.
    This figure does not represent how many people logged into battle pirates at any given time.

    Kix keeps this figure up because it's a much larger number than those actually playing battle pirates. They don't want us to really see that there's only a couple thousand playing at any given time.

    There's also no way to verify that, that number is legit for how many are logged into kixeye. Kixeye could very well be fudging it in an attempt to keep more from quitting.
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  • lozza
    lozza
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    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 94
    who in their right mind pay 20mil for a skin cor you add some decent prizes 
  • TheHolsh
    TheHolsh
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    lozza said:
    who in their right mind pay 20mil for a skin cor you add some decent prizes 
    Me and many others...
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  • DarkMercenary
    DarkMercenary
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    Pinch rocket and gut phoenix can pinch the turrets on the turret ships. The xl long pinch is for 28 seconds.

    When I pinch a stationary turret ship, the turrets are pinched long enough for me to kill them before the pinch wears off.
    When I pinch a moving turret ship, it pinches the turrets but only while the turrets are where the pinch landed. As soon as the turrets move past that, they start firing again. That's only a few seconds, not 28 seconds.

    Nothing on the pinch rocket says you're actually pinching a spot and stuff will be stunned only while in that spot. It says it pinches buildings for 28 seconds. So the turrets on the turret ships should remain pinched. In fact, the ship itself shouldn't even move for the ship stun time amount. What's that, like 7 seconds? The ship is not being stunned and the turrets aren't getting their full 28 seconds stun time.
    Pinches work like normal for me, at least long enough for me to kill the turret ships
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  • michael.west.750
    michael.west.750
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    Have you tried pinching a moving turret ship?
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  • III LordG III
    III LordG III
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    Where are all the 81s?

  • JamesMcFarlane
    JamesMcFarlane
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2013 Posts: 394
    Only 3 people in my sector playing but 1 has given up with 19mill No other players  That is why there are no complaints mate it's because every one has better games to play now and are having WAY more fun on other sites. GLUG< GLUG< GLUG it's sinking fast! Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee kixsux hehehe
    FIX this game as it is full of glitches and bugs. DO NOT UPDATE THE GAME BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT CAUSES MORE GLITCHES AND MAKES THE GAME UN_PLAYABLE FFS! why do you do that when you have been told by almost everyone that plays this game Grrrrrrrrrrrrr STOP MESSING US ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • butch1314
    butch1314
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    @Rough_Rider76 said:
    butch1314 said:

    @Gryffon said:

    Rough_Rider76 said:

    Gryffon said:
    
    For those complaining that they are having issues with this raid here is a build that does the tier 8 targets for about an hour damage a piece.  It isn't the best build out there but it works for me.  No excuses I don't coin a single bit and already have 60mil.  Be smart with your builds and be smart with your shipyard time and stop building old hulls.   https://www.dahippo.com/bp/ship/#!JPOQ04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W427903448Z2A2ACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07POP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07dEl3
    
    Good advice for players that have those hulls and tech to make those builds.  What is your suggestion for us lower level players who don't have them and can't even participate in the raid to earn new tech and new hulls?  I bet every one of you who keep saying this doesn't realize that the raids now alienates a lot of players compared to the raids in the past where everyone can be involved and have a chance to get that new updated stuff.  Now it's just high level opportunities and nothing for the rest of us.  Just wrong.
    

    For those players I suggest you start building the most modern fleets you can.  Kixeye has run TLC after TLC for skyfires/phoenix which were capable of running the Manticore TLCs.  Both the skyfire and the phoenix TLCs where doable with tech you get from the FM.  If you are being held back by something try asking for advice then acting on that advice to get you past where you are instead of making excuses.  I came back to the game after years off(best thing i had were seawolves) about a year ago.  Now I have most modern fleets to include PVP fleets.  It just takes some work and figuring out where to spend your build time and what to avoid.  Avoid refitting ships over and over again if they are working let them be until you are caught up.  Fine tuning the same fleet over and over again is a killer.  Do some research before you start a build because alot of people have already done the testing for you.  But now I'm just rambling.  If you need help figuring out where you are going wrong by all means shoot me a PM or I'm in sector 84, I'm happy to help you figure out how to do it if you are willing to do the work.

    Exactly. I'm doing T8 sets for 5 coins, and I don't even have the flag. If you are having trouble, maybe you need a better Alli. Everyone has had the chance to get the manti bp whether through preps or the TLCs that year old fleets can do with tech you got from fm. I have said before, when I started doing raids it was the reaver sub raid and the best I had was a fleet of cuda. I figured out how to snipe points from the top targets and ground from there. This raid, if you have built just one manti the same thing can be done in the 106. Sorry, but it is not a kixeye problem in this case....

    It is a Kixeye problem.  I've started again 3 weeks ago at level zero.  Was able to earn new fleets and tech through FM by grinding out 40's with (3) Levi mortar ships!  You guys are talking semantics and how to earn fleets and play the game...we know how to do that BS!  I should be able to hit a low level raid target with whatever fleet I have and grind up the tiers.  Get over telling everyone that they have to earn the fleets, WE F'ING KNOW.  The point is, we should be able to earn those fleets through the same raid as the high levels and big whales.  Is a Kixeye problem.   

    Wow, j.u.s.t. w.o.w. You have been playing for three weeks and hitting 40's fm with Levi, and you expect to grind a raid? You have a looooong way to go in the fm before even considering any meaningful participation in a raid. Have you gotten to T5 in fm yet? I would think not unless you spend every waking moment in the game. This is an assault class raid, so the first thing is your garrision class ships will do squat in this raid series. Second, it has been said for years by any decent players that you should devote your play and build time to getting a fleet that can get you T5 in the fm every week before even considering using your shipyard time on a raid fleet. Focus on the correct priorities and use the stepping stones that are in the game and you will progress. Show the people that are more advanced in your sector that you are doing that and they will mentor you and help where appropriate. Otherwise.....

  • travis.j.altman
    travis.j.altman
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    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 121
    DOES KIXEYE ANSWER TICKETS DURING RAID? WHAT GOOD IS A CUSTOMER SUPPORT TEAM THAT SITS ON THEIR HANDS. With all the money they make you would think they would staff for raids properly. 
    -Captain BigButt-
  • BANZAI_Bill
    BANZAI_Bill
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Nov 2014 Posts: 629
    visaga said:
    wow only 6 pages of complainats guess kix have made everyone happy lmao 
    LMAO. In the first assault raid ,there were over 100 pages of complaints. It was ignored blatantly. Players learnt their lesson that nobody at Kix bothers to read these threads and only selected feedbacks are passed up or discussed. Sorry CM/Mods but this is what I feel as their has never been a communication/reply from Kix on those 100 pages.

    The only thing which is changed is that drac ships are taking 3 scatter volleys to kill which, in the last raid, was 2 only. And it was 2 volleys with 4 ships. I used to park one ship in corner.

    This time, i have to use all 5 ships with 3 volleys and there are more scatter guns on my ships compared to last raid. And yes, Makara/3 DW/2 Savage CICs remains same.

    This is the response from Kix on complaints. Players First...Indeed.
    More like players fist to get screwed.
  • Rough_Rider76
    Rough_Rider76
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2018 Posts: 12
    butch1314 said:

    @Rough_Rider76 said:
    butch1314 said:

    @Gryffon said:

    Rough_Rider76 said:

    Gryffon said:
    
    For those complaining that they are having issues with this raid here is a build that does the tier 8 targets for about an hour damage a piece.  It isn't the best build out there but it works for me.  No excuses I don't coin a single bit and already have 60mil.  Be smart with your builds and be smart with your shipyard time and stop building old hulls.   https://www.dahippo.com/bp/ship/#!JPOQ04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W427903448Z2A2ACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07POP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07dEl3
    
    Good advice for players that have those hulls and tech to make those builds.  What is your suggestion for us lower level players who don't have them and can't even participate in the raid to earn new tech and new hulls?  I bet every one of you who keep saying this doesn't realize that the raids now alienates a lot of players compared to the raids in the past where everyone can be involved and have a chance to get that new updated stuff.  Now it's just high level opportunities and nothing for the rest of us.  Just wrong.
    

    For those players I suggest you start building the most modern fleets you can.  Kixeye has run TLC after TLC for skyfires/phoenix which were capable of running the Manticore TLCs.  Both the skyfire and the phoenix TLCs where doable with tech you get from the FM.  If you are being held back by something try asking for advice then acting on that advice to get you past where you are instead of making excuses.  I came back to the game after years off(best thing i had were seawolves) about a year ago.  Now I have most modern fleets to include PVP fleets.  It just takes some work and figuring out where to spend your build time and what to avoid.  Avoid refitting ships over and over again if they are working let them be until you are caught up.  Fine tuning the same fleet over and over again is a killer.  Do some research before you start a build because alot of people have already done the testing for you.  But now I'm just rambling.  If you need help figuring out where you are going wrong by all means shoot me a PM or I'm in sector 84, I'm happy to help you figure out how to do it if you are willing to do the work.

    Exactly. I'm doing T8 sets for 5 coins, and I don't even have the flag. If you are having trouble, maybe you need a better Alli. Everyone has had the chance to get the manti bp whether through preps or the TLCs that year old fleets can do with tech you got from fm. I have said before, when I started doing raids it was the reaver sub raid and the best I had was a fleet of cuda. I figured out how to snipe points from the top targets and ground from there. This raid, if you have built just one manti the same thing can be done in the 106. Sorry, but it is not a kixeye problem in this case....

    It is a Kixeye problem.  I've started again 3 weeks ago at level zero.  Was able to earn new fleets and tech through FM by grinding out 40's with (3) Levi mortar ships!  You guys are talking semantics and how to earn fleets and play the game...we know how to do that BS!  I should be able to hit a low level raid target with whatever fleet I have and grind up the tiers.  Get over telling everyone that they have to earn the fleets, WE F'ING KNOW.  The point is, we should be able to earn those fleets through the same raid as the high levels and big whales.  Is a Kixeye problem.   

    Wow, j.u.s.t. w.o.w. You have been playing for three weeks and hitting 40's fm with Levi, and you expect to grind a raid? You have a looooong way to go in the fm before even considering any meaningful participation in a raid. Have you gotten to T5 in fm yet? I would think not unless you spend every waking moment in the game. This is an assault class raid, so the first thing is your garrision class ships will do squat in this raid series. Second, it has been said for years by any decent players that you should devote your play and build time to getting a fleet that can get you T5 in the fm every week before even considering using your shipyard time on a raid fleet. Focus on the correct priorities and use the stepping stones that are in the game and you will progress. Show the people that are more advanced in your sector that you are doing that and they will mentor you and help where appropriate. Otherwise.....

    I'm not grinding FM's with Levi's now for christ sake...stupid comment.  That's how I started and yes, starting a raid a similar way (not with Levi's) is exactly what I expected as this was how it used to be.  I have been only able to be a part of 1 1/2 FM so far and made it halfway through T4 and that's using the "stepping stones".  I know the difference between classes of ships and know how to use them, but even my Apollo fleet stood no chance.  If lower level players aren't able to grind raids, then high level players shouldn't be able to farm FM 40's and 60's.  
  • butch1314
    butch1314
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    Joined Nov 2017 Posts: 198

    @Rough_Rider76 said:

    butch1314 said:

    @Rough_Rider76 said:

    butch1314 said:

    @Gryffon said:
    
    Rough_Rider76 said:
    

    Gryffon said: For those complaining that they are having issues with this raid here is a build that does the tier 8 targets for about an hour damage a piece.  It isn't the best build out there but it works for me.  No excuses I don't coin a single bit and already have 60mil.  Be smart with your builds and be smart with your shipyard time and stop building old hulls.   https://www.dahippo.com/bp/ship/#!JPOQ04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W427903448Z2A2ACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07POP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07dEl3 Good advice for players that have those hulls and tech to make those builds.  What is your suggestion for us lower level players who don't have them and can't even participate in the raid to earn new tech and new hulls?  I bet every one of you who keep saying this doesn't realize that the raids now alienates a lot of players compared to the raids in the past where everyone can be involved and have a chance to get that new updated stuff.  Now it's just high level opportunities and nothing for the rest of us.  Just wrong.

    For those players I suggest you start building the most modern fleets you can.  Kixeye has run TLC after TLC for skyfires/phoenix which were capable of running the Manticore TLCs.  Both the skyfire and the phoenix TLCs where doable with tech you get from the FM.  If you are being held back by something try asking for advice then acting on that advice to get you past where you are instead of making excuses.  I came back to the game after years off(best thing i had were seawolves) about a year ago.  Now I have most modern fleets to include PVP fleets.  It just takes some work and figuring out where to spend your build time and what to avoid.  Avoid refitting ships over and over again if they are working let them be until you are caught up.  Fine tuning the same fleet over and over again is a killer.  Do some research before you start a build because alot of people have already done the testing for you.  But now I'm just rambling.  If you need help figuring out where you are going wrong by all means shoot me a PM or I'm in sector 84, I'm happy to help you figure out how to do it if you are willing to do the work.
    
    
    
    Exactly. I'm doing T8 sets for 5 coins, and I don't even have the flag. If you are having trouble, maybe you need a better Alli. Everyone has had the chance to get the manti bp whether through preps or the TLCs that year old fleets can do with tech you got from fm. I have said before, when I started doing raids it was the reaver sub raid and the best I had was a fleet of cuda. I figured out how to snipe points from the top targets and ground from there. This raid, if you have built just one manti the same thing can be done in the 106. Sorry, but it is not a kixeye problem in this case....
    

    It is a Kixeye problem.  I've started again 3 weeks ago at level zero.  Was able to earn new fleets and tech through FM by grinding out 40's with (3) Levi mortar ships!  You guys are talking semantics and how to earn fleets and play the game...we know how to do that BS!  I should be able to hit a low level raid target with whatever fleet I have and grind up the tiers.  Get over telling everyone that they have to earn the fleets, WE F'ING KNOW.  The point is, we should be able to earn those fleets through the same raid as the high levels and big whales.  Is a Kixeye problem.   

    Wow, j.u.s.t. w.o.w. You have been playing for three weeks and hitting 40's fm with Levi, and you expect to grind a raid? You have a looooong way to go in the fm before even considering any meaningful participation in a raid. Have you gotten to T5 in fm yet? I would think not unless you spend every waking moment in the game. This is an assault class raid, so the first thing is your garrision class ships will do squat in this raid series. Second, it has been said for years by any decent players that you should devote your play and build time to getting a fleet that can get you T5 in the fm every week before even considering using your shipyard time on a raid fleet. Focus on the correct priorities and use the stepping stones that are in the game and you will progress. Show the people that are more advanced in your sector that you are doing that and they will mentor you and help where appropriate. Otherwise.....

    I'm not grinding FM's with Levi's now for christ sake...stupid comment.  That's how I started and yes, starting a raid a similar way (not with Levi's) is exactly what I expected as this was how it used to be.  I have been only able to be a part of 1 1/2 FM so far and made it halfway through T4 and that's using the "stepping stones".  I know the difference between classes of ships and know how to use them, but even my Apollo fleet stood no chance.  If lower level players aren't able to grind raids, then high level players shouldn't be able to farm FM 40's and 60's.  

    I don't need to farm low level fm, because I've put in enough seat time to wear holes in my britches. If you are coining and want the fast way, then hire a Merc. Your Apollo fleet should out range a damaged turret ship. My fleet does t8 sets for 5 coin repair, so it won't break the bank for you to find someone who can give you a leg up.

  • Capt_Gossamer
    Capt_Gossamer
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 477
    For many years, players could grind the lowest raid target(s) with just about any fleet. That would allow them to get raid prizes that would help advance them in their game. They couldn't get all that much but every little bit helped. Somewhere along the line kix ramped up their greed factor and now you need the best of the best to even do raid and take four hours damage per target to go with it. Can't even help others get everything they need as it costs too much and prepping is out of the question now with such lengthy repairs.
    Exactly! Kix just doesn't get it, long term if we help more people get prizes they stay longer and spend some coin because they see a light at end of the "build" tunnel But Kix only sees short term Greed and that's why they are in trouble now chasing it month to month.
  • TraderJack
    TraderJack
    Incursion Leader
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 1,103

    @nrubnus said:
    Capt_Gossamer said:

    I'm sure Kix is looking at these forums and saying what a success it must be because not 100 pages of posts yet, What they don't get is so many people are just tired of saying the same stuff that falls on deaf ears and just stopped playing and complaining.

    THIS!!! Only 30K players showing online during a raid event says it all.

    Even though the raid might be less active the past raids, this can be debated. We really need a pinned post on the forums that states what the number represents and what it doesn’t.

    I love this game but the numbers are off around 7 thousand from the last Raid.   I could be wrong but judging from the lack of activity in my sector it would seem valid .
  • TraderJack
    TraderJack
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    Joined May 2012 Posts: 1,103
    TheHolsh said:
    April_S1 said:
    30,267 anyone notice numbers online and thats for a raid.
    Anyone notice that people don't know what this number truly means and still post it like they think that is the amount of people playing BP?
    Yup but I remember when it was over 100,000 too.
  • Piratekiller_BOB
    Piratekiller_BOB
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 579
    edited 14 Jul 2018, 7:27PM
    Would you guys at kix leave the **** targets alone. Just refit my fleet(8 days of tokens) to do 104 and 106 targets for about 1 hour 20 mins damage to fleet! Done 10 sets same damage. And Now I took 2hrs. in a 104., about done. Tired of you guys moving the goal posts further and even further throughout the raid. 
  • Sputnik001
    Sputnik001
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 1,166
    TheHolsh said:
    April_S1 said:
    30,267 anyone notice numbers online and thats for a raid.
    Anyone notice that people don't know what this number truly means and still post it like they think that is the amount of people playing BP?
    No, that number is worse than that...

    Considering that that number use to be in the 100k mark, the fact that it is now consistently only a third of it, should have Kix concerned..
  • wolf123
    wolf123
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 3,324
    TheHolsh said:
    April_S1 said:
    30,267 anyone notice numbers online and thats for a raid.
    Anyone notice that people don't know what this number truly means and still post it like they think that is the amount of people playing BP?
    No, that number is worse than that...

    Considering that that number use to be in the 100k mark, the fact that it is now consistently only a third of it, should have Kix concerned..
    That number does not include those that play through facebook and other sites
    ever had  a problem where you log on and someone is hitting your base, and wanted to view the world map while it happens? try this.
    1/select leadersboard.
    2/select player's medals.
    3/select any player there.
    4/select "find base"
    that may or may not take you to world map.
  • wolf123
    wolf123
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 3,324
    DOES KIXEYE ANSWER TICKETS DURING RAID? WHAT GOOD IS A CUSTOMER SUPPORT TEAM THAT SITS ON THEIR HANDS. With all the money they make you would think they would staff for raids properly. 
    It's the weekend, they are not at work!!
    ever had  a problem where you log on and someone is hitting your base, and wanted to view the world map while it happens? try this.
    1/select leadersboard.
    2/select player's medals.
    3/select any player there.
    4/select "find base"
    that may or may not take you to world map.
  • sgary1973
    sgary1973
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    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 40
    theyve even upped the damage on the 69s 

  • stephenl90
    stephenl90
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 750
    This has to be the worst raid cycle ever. I am coming from 2 angles. One from the damage angle and the other from sheer boredom. I will be sitting out the final leg.
  • michael.west.750
    michael.west.750
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 1,598
    If you sit out next raid, you won't get the new raid hull and won't be able to fully enjoy how fun the next raid cycle will be.
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  • SnickerBP
    SnickerBP
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 1,221
    Would you guys at kix leave the **** targets alone. Just refit my fleet(8 days of tokens) to do 104 and 106 targets for about 1 hour 20 mins damage to fleet! Done 10 sets same damage. And Now I took 2hrs. in a 104., about done. Tired of you guys moving the goal posts further and even further throughout the raid. 
    LOL u know it could just of been driving?  do it 10 times then its a conspiracy ;) lol

  • Spider Retired
    Spider Retired
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 317
    30,725 PLAYERS ONLINE

    This shows the amount of people that are logged into kixeye dot com.
    This figure does not represent how many people logged into battle pirates at any given time.

    Kix keeps this figure up because it's a much larger number than those actually playing battle pirates. They don't want us to really see that there's only a couple thousand playing at any given time.

    There's also no way to verify that, that number is legit for how many are logged into kixeye. Kixeye could very well be fudging it in an attempt to keep more from quitting.
    Well my son started raid today and was put on the 15000 something, that the prox numbers doing this raid i belive. He was doing some targets until he got the max U bonus and now he was ranked 11000 something. Thats when he only had 13,5 mill.

    Numbers do show clearly less activity, and i do belive most of this players has a very limited coining done.


    Spider OUT ! LvL 130
  • bort
    bort
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    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 8,257
    butch1314 said:

    @Gryffon said:
    Rough_Rider76 said:


    Gryffon said:

    For those complaining that they are having issues with this raid here is a build that does the tier 8 targets for about an hour damage a piece.  It isn't the best build out there but it works for me.  No excuses I don't coin a single bit and already have 60mil.  Be smart with your builds and be smart with your shipyard time and stop building old hulls.   https://www.dahippo.com/bp/ship/#!JPOQ04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W427903448Z2A2ACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07POP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07dEl3

    Good advice for players that have those hulls and tech to make those builds.  What is your suggestion for us lower level players who don't have them and can't even participate in the raid to earn new tech and new hulls?  I bet every one of you who keep saying this doesn't realize that the raids now alienates a lot of players compared to the raids in the past where everyone can be involved and have a chance to get that new updated stuff.  Now it's just high level opportunities and nothing for the rest of us.  Just wrong.

    For those players I suggest you start building the most modern fleets you can.  Kixeye has run TLC after TLC for skyfires/phoenix which were capable of running the Manticore TLCs.  Both the skyfire and the phoenix TLCs where doable with tech you get from the FM.  If you are being held back by something try asking for advice then acting on that advice to get you past where you are instead of making excuses.  I came back to the game after years off(best thing i had were seawolves) about a year ago.  Now I have most modern fleets to include PVP fleets.  It just takes some work and figuring out where to spend your build time and what to avoid.  Avoid refitting ships over and over again if they are working let them be until you are caught up.  Fine tuning the same fleet over and over again is a killer.  Do some research before you start a build because alot of people have already done the testing for you.  But now I'm just rambling.  If you need help figuring out where you are going wrong by all means shoot me a PM or I'm in sector 84, I'm happy to help you figure out how to do it if you are willing to do the work.

    Exactly. I'm doing T8 sets for 5 coins, and I don't even have the flag. If you are having trouble, maybe you need a better Alli. Everyone has had the chance to get the manti bp whether through preps or the TLCs that year old fleets can do with tech you got from fm. I have said before, when I started doing raids it was the reaver sub raid and the best I had was a fleet of cuda. I figured out how to snipe points from the top targets and ground from there. This raid, if you have built just one manti the same thing can be done in the 106. Sorry, but it is not a kixeye problem in this case....

    It is a Kixeye problem.  I've started again 3 weeks ago at level zero.  Was able to earn new fleets and tech through FM by grinding out 40's with (3) Levi mortar ships!  You guys are talking semantics and how to earn fleets and play the game...we know how to do that BS!  I should be able to hit a low level raid target with whatever fleet I have and grind up the tiers.  Get over telling everyone that they have to earn the fleets, WE F'ING KNOW.  The point is, we should be able to earn those fleets through the same raid as the high levels and big whales.  Is a Kixeye problem.   
    3 weeks. levis. lol no. just no. 
  • FreeperTroll
    FreeperTroll
    Potential Threat
    Joined Mar 2014 Posts: 83
    "Exactly! Kix just doesn't get it, long term if we help more people get prizes they stay longer and spend some coin because they see a light at end of the "build" tunnel But Kix only sees short term Greed and that's why they are in trouble now chasing it month to month."

    I am appalled at how Kix treats it's PAYING customers. I really thought they got right in the last Raid. I had high hopes on being able to do several 60 set with SKULLED Skys with the Flag in this raid. Nope, they get wiped out. Not like the last cycle where you could actually do several 60 sets with Ironclads, work your way up to Buccs and do well. This time its terrible. There is no light at the end of the tunnel build.
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