8.24 Summer State of the Game: Players First

  • Piratekiller_BOB
    Piratekiller_BOB
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 471
    edited 13 Jun 2018, 6:36PM
    If my base becomes a farm after these changes I will be done with this game! I'm sitting at 627 medals(Stupid kix site hasn't updated medals in a year almost says Ihave 325, but that was a long time ago and during bounty event) most from base defense. I spent a huge amount of my time getting the tier 7 turrets so I could have a strong base. Not the players fault that your game designers messed stuff up! I would think a fix like this should have been implemented before the release of armor that adds so much deflection! Now with this fix I fear my base will suffer a lot. Just like the epic mort nerf several months ago that screwed the player base defense wise. Yes you did offer reduced or insta refits to building, but it was a tough adjustment. And now a couple months later we are seeing an even a bigger base defense nerf! And me and many other's will call it quits if the changes go at as planed. 
  • Serpents_Soul
    Serpents_Soul
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    Joined May 2012 Posts: 1,549
    As with EVERYTHING Kixeye does and says, I take it with a grain of salt, and believe it when I see it.
    My stalker is a Cartoon Dog. He hates my posts. He must find me when he sees my posts. He can't let things go. He is a sad Cartoon Doggie.
  • BlackPoops98
    BlackPoops98
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 840
    The content of the state of the game in no way matches the title of "PLAYER FIRST"

    All of the upcoming changes being described make it easier for players to take damage and spend coin to repair it. That is not improving the player experience.
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  • chopsy
    chopsy
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 104
    Alex11111 said:
    lol, kix is at its usual: fixing what's good and ignoring what's bad, no surprise here
    and introducing new things without fixing the broken old things
    [TBD]
    ex-[SLAHO] [DFWDP] sector 186
  • FiremanHawk
    FiremanHawk
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 725
    bla bla bla. they have told us they are going to fix the game before and the only crap that gets fixed is what benefits kixeye. the base defense crap has only swung way to the bases side for the ones that have all the turrets. the rest of use are fixing to have an even worse time of it. so once again they only fix something that helps the top end coiners. they say they want to help lower players grow with older hulls but yet they keep making over powered targets that the olders hulls cant do. dosnt look like they are trying to help the lower players to me. stop with the greed and make the pve targets doable and fun. thats whats going to help the entire game, not just the lower players. its just the same o BS we hear coming from kixeye. they couldnt care less about the players other than our credit cards. i have lost all trust with the greedy company. actions no words is what will fix the game and all we ever get are words unless they need to make a fix to benefit kixeye. how about a PvP fleet we can use for ship to ship battles. that part of the game has disappeared. i believe non of this crap. they just keep coming out with overpowered targets we cant hit unless we have the top end crap and sometimes that still dosnt work. the entire game is unbalance not just PvP. i refuse to pay for a bad product. im a level 120 and been around since black water that logged of every single day for several years. i find myself spending less and less time on this game. the last couple of weeks ive logged on long enough to hit some chore targets, hit repair and logged back off. THE FUN IS GONE kixeye and non of these changes are going to fix that. pull your heads out and get on the same page as the customers. we pay your paychecks. freakin listen to us. we keep telling you what we need and you keep doing whatever you think will generate more coin and ignore us. im done coining and log in less and less every single day. i love the game but hate the company. so wish kixeye would sell out to a company that knows how to take care of the people that pay there paychecks instead of gouging every cent they can with a sup par game that lost its fun a long time ago. 
  • Confuser
    Confuser
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2013 Posts: 4
    Kix talk:
    Blah, blah..coiners been whining....blah, blah.....coined fleets dying in bases...blah, blah....scrap new base defense....blah, blah.... fun players back to being farms...oh, and let's say we're gonna fix the bugs we told every one was because of their computers! <-- Employee Of The Month Award!
  • Confuser
    Confuser
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2013 Posts: 4
    Kix talk:
    Blah, blah..coiners been whining....blah, blah.....coined fleets dying in bases...blah, blah....scrap new base defense....blah, blah.... fun players back to being farms...oh, and let's say we're gonna fix the bugs we told every one was because of their computers! <-- Employee Of The Month Award!
  • deon.scheepers.12
    deon.scheepers.12
    Greenhorn
    Joined May 2014 Posts: 1
    TheDragon said:
    lmao. i dont even know where to start with the lies..........fm made to help returning players? lol current players are struggling with current targets. 

    if you wanted to help the players you would make the chores(like fm) easier for players so we can play the pvp part of the game too

    also how can we trust you, every time you say you wanna help us players you make it worse for us players
    cant resheard  objectives have put in 10 tickets and nothing is been done still can stucked on lev 12 
  • B_B..arghh
    B_B..arghh
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 553

    Player vs Player

    A fun PvP experience is built on a balanced economy. There are short term problems we need resolve to get there.

    The short term fixes have largely been announced to you. We’re addressing a serious bug causing turrets to deal radically increased damage.  We’re addressing an accuracy bug that was affecting all hulls, but was having it’s most profound effect on countermeasures effectiveness (making Defenders too strong).  We’re improving the consistency of countermeasures. We’re releasing a Explosive Turret to help balance out base defenses. PvP has swung way, way too far in favor of defense and these changes swing the pendulum in the other direction. In long term, we will reveal content release plan that continues to serve the balanced economy of PvP space.

    While PvE will always remain a big part of Battle Pirates, PvP is also where fun could be. Over the years, PvP has become a exclusive and niche experience. In the coming months we’re going to be working to make PvP more engaging, more rewarding and more exciting. Eventually it would be the experience for broader players.


    Okay am not feeling that PvP has swung way... way... to "defense" look at returning
    players... players who are coming up from low end into mid end... you are not accounting
    for those players.. who does not have proper turrets for "defense"... 

    You want the players to come up from low end to mid end to high end you must first start by
    making a way to earn old base turrets for "base defenses". I feel as the "base defenses" are not
    zoned in for a balanced game play.

    Player a has level 300+ fleet... Player b has level 50 base... zero "defense".. so where is the balance?
    If your looking at only Top End "defense" players you are cutting out the low end and mid end players
    from ever having a "defense" balance. 
    agree Kenkyona , think kix have forgotten the food chain ! the serious players know we need small lvls to grow to mid lvls , mid lvls to grow to high and etc etc and when you see a lvl 128 players with a 439 flt you have question who kix are listening to causes its a different hymen sheet to what i sing from . and when players get smashed soon as bubble drops the "fun" for the defender will soon dissolve into a no fun game so less players stay on the game 
    playing for fun , not for a 2nd job !
  • fozi65
    fozi65
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 27
    are you lot on the wakey baccy again "players first" when did that start . Its kix first always has been more so now rampage has taken over . as for enthusiastic players you need to take a long hard look because theres no enthusiam out there they are leaving in droves
  • orioles506
    orioles506
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 250
    TheHolsh said:
    "PvP has swung way, way too far in favor of defense".   Yeah, right!   What went wrong?   Has one of your big coiners sustained some damage to his/her unbreakable ship that required a little more than instant map repair.   It has taken me years to actually repel an attacker and now that I'm finally there, the game is out of balance?   You lot have lost the plot and need an urgent dose of reality!
    Have you not seen maxed out howies in action? They will wipe a fleet clean in a few seconds worth.
    only if one has all the tech, some folks just can't seem to find the time for this game anymore, , miss an event, well, to bad seems to be their new motto, , I'm just stunned that they let MR post this statement, unbelievable to be honest.

  • FiremanHawk
    FiremanHawk
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 725


    WE ARE WATCHING.  Remember.....you need us more than we need you. 

    thats the key right there and kixeye cant seem to understand that. without happy players this game will not exist. without happy players that company will go down. for the life of me and dont understand how they dont see that. its been said a 1000 times. happy customers spend more money. not customers that kixeye thinks they can bully into spending money. 
  • Captain Pants
    Captain Pants
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 516
    We're getting screwed again, right?
  • Dario Wilkowski
    Dario Wilkowski
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,992
    edited 13 Jun 2018, 7:43PM
    To all whom it might concern, whatever we say on forum , will not be looked at nor replied, so we just wasting our precious time. They will implement whatever changes to PVP / PVE without any feedback, and all those so called feedback that they use are purely and surely made up by Kixeye themselves. They dont bother about feedback whatsoever. Just wait for next Raid to start, rant will begin, and they will do exac nothing about it as they did last time, same will apply to PVP changes , accuracy changes and CM changes. They dont care what we are saying , whether you're Free to Play(player), low / mid Coiner or Whale. They just dont give a  **** and do what they're best at make your day worse , so you can finally quit game.
    (thats not trolling just sad truth about fact)
  • zebbers1
    zebbers1
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 83
    hold on a minute, are you now saying after all these years that every single computer worldwide was not broken after all regarding lag...….well I never
  • jim.lore.31
    jim.lore.31
    Potential Threat
    Joined May 2013 Posts: 53
    To all whom it might concern, whatever we say on forum , will not be looked at nor replied, so we just wasting our precious time. They will implement whatever changes to PVP / PVE without any feedback, and all those so called feedback that they use are purely and surely made up by Kixeye themselves. They dont bother about feedback whatsoever. Just wait for next Raid to start, rant will begin, and they will do exac nothing about it as they did last time, same will apply to PVP changes , accuracy changes and CM changes. They dont care what we are saying , whether you're Free to Play(player), low / mid Coiner or Whale. They just dont give a  **** and do what they're best at make your day worse , so you can finally quit game.
    (thats not trolling just sad truth about fact)
    According to what we have been told the only people that Kixeye listens to are the CM's and whales in the game. This is the "customer feedback" that they keep talking about. This is also why it is skewed towards heavy coiners. This game used to be balanced. It is not anymore. You cannot tell me that Kixeye, with all of the resources they have, cannot fix the problems with the game. Either they are really that clueless or they chose NOT to fix them. It really is as simply as that
  • bootlegga
    bootlegga
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    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 126
    "PvP has swung way, way too far in favor of defense". 

    That's certainly not my experience - my base used to be at least able to do 40-80% damage to attackers before everything got flattened, now I'm lucky if I can get 1% damage on attacking ships. 

    And that's after spending the last six months upgrading/equipping turrets and walls like crazy. 
  • Capt_Gossamer
    Capt_Gossamer
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 382
    LMAO You talk about "bugs" and "Imbalance" yet you don't address the biggest issue in game Your Greed and unfairness to the players. You never addressed the last raid cycle where we just got raped by you and you just ignored so it went away. Now you come back addressing these big issues. What a bunch of CRAP! Till you guys start addressing the real issues HOW YOU CHEAT and give us MISINFORMATION not much else matters and you will get very little $$ in return
  • Marauder
    Marauder
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 10
    I was one of the players who left BP for several years then returned. The weekly FM events have helped me get back into the game, albeit slowly. Now that I can get whatever FM content I want each week, I am stuck. I was hitting lvl 120 uranium bases just before they got replaced. I now cannot do any R&D, and cannot get the Alpha Behemoth or other shards for moving beyond the FM content. Just a suggestion, but bring back a nerfed version of the lvl 120 uranium bases and fix the R&D problem. Provide the same shards, etc., but one-fourth of the uranium. I can get uranium through map targets now, I just cannot move beyond the lowest levels of each of the map targets. While you're at it, either get rid of the old campaign events or update them to hulls that would actually be useful to players. Why do a campaign for a Hellblazer when I can get a beeter hull in FM each week?
  • james.albers.50
    james.albers.50
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 4
    How can you get 58 seconds damage from a 45 glowing nav relay 1 time then up to 12 minutes on another on auto. This is stupid as they should be about the same not 11 minutes difference. Kixeye really needs to fix this soon.
  • james.albers.50
    james.albers.50
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 4
    Tell me now they give the big Centurion flag ship after everyone scraps the centurion's as they sucked so bad that they were useless. Thanks kixeye for shafting us all that scrapped them. 
  • The_Vengeful_One
    The_Vengeful_One
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    Tell me now they give the big Centurion flag ship after everyone scraps the centurion's as they sucked so bad that they were useless. Thanks kixeye for shafting us all that scrapped them. 
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  • Balrog-NH
    Balrog-NH
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 439
    I do not concur that base defense dominates PVP … my base is crushed regularly as I have not acquired enough ballistic turrets and the penetrative turrets are lacking.   A halo is still a halo no matter the stats.  
  • soloshooter
    soloshooter
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 409

    QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS


    The second is how countermeasure should behave. As a very well known mechanic in Battle Pirates, the countermeasures have behaved inconsistently towards missile, mortar and rockets. We are working on making it behave in a uniform fashion.  

    Those corrections will have various impact to individual players because everyone uses these content differently. We are doing our best to communicate our plan as early as possible, collect feedback and roll out carefully. We have no intention to make players take more damage than stats indicated and we welcome your feedback after the fixes.


    Is having hulls in the Raid series with weapons immune to countermeasure a way of making countermeasures perform in a uniform fashion (useless). Also with that and having the charged armor deplete quickly (Limited Item) is a way on having players take unavoidable damage.  

  • carl.wear.3
    carl.wear.3
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2013 Posts: 5,050
    If you were really serious about fixing PvP the FIRST thing you would do is get rid of the titanium requirements for the conqueror shipyard. Then you would reduce its build time so low - mid lvls can start using it.

    Next major problem is with all the NEW fleets we need for all the chores the build and repair times need to be drastically REDUCED.
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