[INFO] - Garrison & Forsaken Mission (2018)

  • SIF
    SIF
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 994

    @Petushock said:
    Milo-Ant said:

    FM chest NEVER contains more than 3 tokens for some of us

    In a whole year? try lift curse of yours. Average people get 2x9d and some 2x2.

    Id like to know who your average players are thatt get normally 2x9d, lol. Most the chatter i have seen have been 2+1 over my sector. Forum threads and even different BP groups have it with the average player gets 3 days.

    He doesn't mean "normally" as in every week or month. There was a poll thread here and someone looked at the results and said the drop rates look to be twice a year per player for the better than 2+1 from the Legendary Chest. In other words, 90% of the time, you're going to get 3 days from T5. Expect to get 4 days or 9 days 5% of the time each.

  • Furtherance
    Furtherance
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Nov 2015 Posts: 205
    Let us not forget the "Escalation" weapons for the current Bucc/Hydra Builds as well (granted you have both).  
    "If I were born a physician, I certainly would have more patience."
  • June_G
    June_G
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2015 Posts: 5
    a new hull and fm every 4 months i guess the game is just aimed at the big coiners unless you open up the conq yard to be able to build all flts i cant see how low coiners or non coiners will be able to keep up or is this your plan just to have a game full of mega coiners
  • ali.parr
    ali.parr
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 453
    Honestly, adding something else that changes regularly isn't the best of ideas, you don't seem to be able to cope with what you are trying to put out now.
     

  • Balrog-NH
    Balrog-NH
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 398
    Only thing  new here is Kix making you buy the hulls to keep up.   I have dozens of hulls I have never built and that never mattered.  Now I cannot finish a TLC because I never built the Hunter hull and my fangs die in one volley.   So now I am being punished for not building a hull.   

    Limited this and limited that was a terrible idea from a player perspective.   I posted this on Forums when this practice started and my posts were removed.  I was told I would be banned from Forums if I persisted with actually disagreeing with this game approach.   

    The only way to effect change to the diarrhea of content that spews forth now is to stop spending on it. Given the number of players with 2 or 3 skulled onslaughts ... obviously this will not change. 
  • Astrobot31
    Astrobot31
    Potential Threat
    Joined Sep 2015 Posts: 76

    They do this with all of their games. This is an overarching strategy to increase revenue across all Kixeye titles. Come check out the Vega Conflict forum and WC forum (not WC:RA, which was DOA). Ask yourself how much time and money are you willing to give this extortion racket?

  • crimsonPERMassurance
    crimsonPERMassurance
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 118
    I can't be bothered reading all the post's here there are too many but it seems most are negative [as usual ]so I'll just request that the FM hull weapon and special be given due consideration of it's importance and not made the top prize's in the raid but lower tier so people get access to them ? oh and some quick build times for them will silence all the knockers
  • Steve Rade
    Steve Rade
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 255
    , we just didn’t feel that there was enough time for players to both build their new Garrison fleet, as well as the next cycle’s fleet.  Says it all new garrison fleet new cycle fleet  What are you thinking KIX????  You just stated EVERY ONES current fm fleets and cycle fleetsare already planned to be out dated with the next garrison target change and any raid fleets by the time next raid cycles.. HOW in any common sense you might have left is this GOOD for your players???  OH  wait this time you did tell us before you screwed us!! Bravo!!!!   And for that admission  We’ve know we’ve messed up Forsaken Mission transitions in the past, and are not looking to do a repeat performance in 2018.  You already DID!  ((see last raid))  And here your doing it again BEFORE the damm raid or garrison change  THAT was only going to be done every 6 months  Hows that not a repeat??  Lets here your garbage answer CM Rampage?  (( or is the new cm Ram IT TO US?))
  • ian.cornwell.1
    ian.cornwell.1
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 1
    Keep moving the goalposts! I seem to be continually struggling to build a decent FM fleet. Barely treading water, let alone getting top tier prizes or good hulls. Build and refit times are still ridiculous and tokens hard enough to get. If you want new blood in this game, you are going to have to do better. It's getting to the point where you need a rock star millionaire's bank account and a masters degree to play this game at even low level. We don't all have the seat time or the money. Greedy.
  • Petushock
    Petushock
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Dec 2017 Posts: 169

    You were saying?
    Nice mathematics, try again.
  • Brendan T
    Brendan T
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 248
    Taken from http://https//forsakencove.blogspot.com/2018/02/welcome-to-new-fm-cycle.html

    And i couldn't agree more with my concerns and growing distance from kixeye. 


    "To Kixeye: You have gone back and forth with regard to direction, intent, design and more. You vacillate with regard to so much, including who it is that is currently 'it'. Too many times in too short a span of time. We sit at a precipice for more reasons than one. For better or for worse, now is the time to bone up. You've picked a team, you've picked a lead(s?) and you've picked a direction.

    Go all in with these ****, because if 2017 repeats in 2018, I fear that I won't have an addiction to partake in come 2019 and that would be a shame."


    Now please pull your head out the unicorns ****; stick to longterm objectives, think about the players, and stop changing your ****'ing mind ever other week.


  • Archangel_1
    Archangel_1
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Dec 2013 Posts: 203
    Milo-Ant said:
    Petushock said:
    I'm curious where you get the 720 figure from. Does this assume getting every token available in the game?

    Then we have 2 more FM fleets coming according to the SotG, and another 2 raid sets (4 fleets) which would bring our build totals to around 900+ build days for the year.

    Add somtimes pp5 fm chest contains more, than 3. Bounty. Dec raid. Facebook bonus. +r&d\tlc, like curent tlc conatains how much free days? 50? or more. Sometimes fleet does not need to be full to be effiecent.

    FM chest NEVER contains more than 3 tokens for some of us
    Not "never", but it is quite rare.  I always got the standard 1d+2d tokens from T5 Chest until this last week's FM where it gave me a 2d+7d tokens.  Current FM is still much harder to complete than the "old FM", which does cause me some concern for another "new FM" that will require building yet another completely new fleet.  Cannot count on getting anything more than the standard 1d+2d tokens unless that too will increase as part of the "new FM".    But I doubt that will increase any more than the rolling for "good  crews'' has been addressed ( Kix WAS going to fix that one too, or so it was stated a long long time ago).
  • The Kozzie
    The Kozzie
    Master Tactician
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 2,246
    tango555 said:
    Black water player now exiting game. Enough is enough cant even be bothered to get angry .
    Hmm ... posted this 10 hrs ago, last logged in 38 mins ago.  Ok then ...
    Those that can - do.  Those that can't - scream hacker, coiner and anything else that takes their fancy.
  • nightdragon610
    nightdragon610
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jan 2013 Posts: 49
    changes to the fm is nice but to change it every 4mths is a little much maybe twice a yr i could go with but not this much
  • Trevor Shearing65
    Trevor Shearing65
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2018 Posts: 1
    was great to see a co op campaign once more was sad when co op raids ended this was first time I know of since I returned to game kix kept a promise

  • Anthony Mcconnell
    Anthony Mcconnell
    Potential Threat
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 87
    well here we go again yet another hull to build for the next cycle of the raids ,and in just five days too as most of us wont get the 50 million points needed on the FIRST DAY, unless of course you stay awake for the  first 24 hours and have hundreds of coins to spend for repairs,
     ohh wait i forgot  this is a COINERS GAME , of course, and yes as much as i appreciate those who do coin to keep it free for those that do still play ,
    but come on kixeye GET REAL HERE , you have changed the targets thus it means the players have to refit or build specific hulls now for raid, weekly, and bounty , and then you go and " FORCE " everyone to get this new hull for the next raid ,  ITS IMPOSSIBLE with the BUILD TIME  knowing the previous builds  were all between 15 and 20 days PER HULL to build  UNLESS YOU COIN AND COIN HEAVY , kixeye is driving away all those smaller players who find it DAM NEAR IMPOSSIBLE to catch up EVEN IF THEY ARE IN AN ALLIANCE   this means asking higher level players to use thier hulls and builds to  take damage without any one repaying them with COINS for repairs i have seen five players who have reached levels 51 , 63 , 65 , 69,and 72 QUIT due to the changes in the game , add all the UPGRADES ,add all the EQUIPMENT CHANGES to turrets and hulls too ,the TITAINIUM targets are NOT WORTH THE PAYOUT EITHER  2.5 K for a 45 , are you for real ?? seriously they are not worth it , 
    i have in the past when i was in full time employment ABLE TO COIN  but now due to medical issues i am UNEMPLOYED i used to buy up to 800 coins a week but now i am lucky to afford 200 if that  so guess what  I HATE THIS GAME , ITS FAR TOO EXPENSIVE, ITS FAR TOO BORING , AND ITS FAR TOO USELESS TO PLAY ANYMORE, 
    i have had enough , the whole idea of this game was to FIGHT OTHER PEOPLE SHIP VS SHIP AND BASE VS ATTACKER  all kixeye want us to do is SPEND  , SPEND, SPEND AND YES SPEND MORE 

  • Alex11111
    Alex11111
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2015 Posts: 399
    Guys, they are taking War Commander's approach, i play both games. They change their weekly mission EVERY **** month...!!! They want it here in the same way like there. And limited this limited that comes also from war commander, where you have to buy every unit multiple times.. You see lots of similarities between 2 games if you know where to look.
  • Milo-Ant
    Milo-Ant
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Oct 2017 Posts: 543
    Milo-Ant said:
    Petushock said:
    I'm curious where you get the 720 figure from. Does this assume getting every token available in the game?

    Then we have 2 more FM fleets coming according to the SotG, and another 2 raid sets (4 fleets) which would bring our build totals to around 900+ build days for the year.

    Add somtimes pp5 fm chest contains more, than 3. Bounty. Dec raid. Facebook bonus. +r&d\tlc, like curent tlc conatains how much free days? 50? or more. Sometimes fleet does not need to be full to be effiecent.

    FM chest NEVER contains more than 3 tokens for some of us
    Not "never", but it is quite rare.  I always got the standard 1d+2d tokens from T5 Chest until this last week's FM where it gave me a 2d+7d tokens.  Current FM is still much harder to complete than the "old FM", which does cause me some concern for another "new FM" that will require building yet another completely new fleet.  Cannot count on getting anything more than the standard 1d+2d tokens unless that too will increase as part of the "new FM".    But I doubt that will increase any more than the rolling for "good  crews'' has been addressed ( Kix WAS going to fix that one too, or so it was stated a long long time ago).
    i have NEVER had anything other than 2 +1, 

    I would also g oas far as to say this new concept of chests has been around coming up for 6 months? give or take?................................................

    .NEVER in 6 months, can quite easily equate to 2 x NEVER in a year
  • hitman
    hitman
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 1,922
    I think we just need to wait and see how this plays out. The critical factor imo is how long the 115's remain unchanged; six to eight weeks sounds reasonable and would enable players to adapt, less than six weeks and fm will be grindy again for a period of time but not to much of a biggy, less than four weeks and the butthurt will flow....
    Blackwater pirate, started in sec 95, been pretty much everywhere since then
  • Anthony Prewecki
    Anthony Prewecki
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 329
    so now u are saying a new garrison hulls every 3 months for fm so we will have to build a hole new fleet every 3 months for fm missions or not do them basicaly nice kixeye thanks 
  • Anthony Prewecki
    Anthony Prewecki
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 329
    And when are we going to get the TIME to build all these fleets?   Most are still building 2 fleets for the current raid series and on top of that we now have to start the new FM fleet. And then in 2 months time while we are still building the FM fleet we will then have to build the next TWO fleets for the new raid style. So when is the THIRD SHIPYARD coming for all these fleets we have to build and the INCREASED dock storage so I don't have to start scrapping useful hulls.
    but ur garrison hulls will be usless every 3 months so no point keeping them 

  • bluerooster
    bluerooster
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2015 Posts: 13
    long ago they fired a bunch of original kixeye people and hired zynga lmfao.....
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