Question about pegasus

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OnionD
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Will it be a flagship? Considering how op it and its tech is id assume so.

  • Todd7123
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    No not a flagship

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  • Fatcatlovespizza
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    It's essentially a frigate on steroids.
    Cyrus, Have you done any sums on how much storage you can get it to with just Xeno armored Hold III  on it? lol
  • OnionD
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    Considering how many of these you can stack in a fleet it would be too powerful

  • OnionD
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    @Fatcatlovespizza said:
    Cyrus Leung said:

    It's essentially a frigate on steroids.

    Cyrus, Have you done any sums on how much storage you can get it to with just Xeno armored Hold III  on it? lol

    Bases are even more **** now lol

  • Cyrus Leung
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    edited 5 Dec 2017, 4:45AM
    It's essentially a frigate on steroids.
    Cyrus, Have you done any sums on how much storage you can get it to with just Xeno armored Hold III  on it? lol
    Actually not that much more than a Enforcer if both ships are at Elite status. Note that the Pegasus has a rather low cargo capacity by itself.

    Enforcer Mk6 + 3 XHold: 11,138,070
    Pegasus Mk6 + 5 XHold: Around 12,640,000
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  • Fatcatlovespizza
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    10.6902M res per ship.  BAHAHA
  • zparadis
    zparadis
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    10.6902M res per ship.  BAHAHA
    Please include base res from the ship itself.
  • Fatcatlovespizza
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    i did
  • Daniel Rose
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    It's essentially a frigate on steroids.
    Cyrus, Have you done any sums on how much storage you can get it to with just Xeno armored Hold III  on it? lol
    64,141,200 tons, without mark ups.
    OnionD said:

    Considering how many of these you can stack in a fleet it would be too powerful

    I dunno if it would. I mean, the Redeemer Missiles with 6900 range are kinda messed up, and the amount of harmonics they can add is daunting, but I don't know if those will make up for the lackluster armor and weapon slots. It's definitely something to watch out for though.
  • VVulty
    VVulty
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    What's Pegasus' firing arc?

  • Nightmare Deathlock
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    @Cyrus Leung said:
    It's essentially a frigate on steroids.

    I hope you read that off my post in fb

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  • zparadis
    zparadis
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    i did
    Including markups? someone is going to do it.
  • Old School VC player
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    Wow that gonna suck when being farmed they can already take x5 the amount as it dam

  • MRKY06
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    Soo pegasus hase 280 strafe speed,like distroyer and speed of 360 fowerd.its defintily carrier killer

    goran
  • Cyrus Leung
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    edited 5 Dec 2017, 6:54AM
    MRKY06 said:

    Soo pegasus hase 280 strafe speed,like distroyer and speed of 360 fowerd.its defintily carrier killer

    Destroyers only have 120-140 strafe speed...
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  • Gont64
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    Here is my summary of pegasus battle outcomes.

    Pegasus vs Battleships and or Cruisers.

    Notes: Pegasus has more range and more agility.
    Likely Outcome: Pegasus victory / massacre (battleships and cruisers will be lucky to get in a single shot).

    Pegasus vs cutters.
    Notes: Pegasus way more range so will get several free shots. Cutters more fire power if they manage to close. If pegasus fitted with 1 net torpedo cutters may struggle to ever close.
    Likely Outcome: Mixed but more damage / repair time for cutter fleets.

    Pegasus vs destroyer.
    Notes: Destroyer with shatter or eclipse has a tiny bit more range and may have more dps. Pegasus is so agile it will quickly close to firing range and at long range may well be able to dodge shatter and eclipse shots.
    Likely Outcome. Mixed but if pegasus flown well and able to dodge most shots it will usually win or inflict much greater damage / repair time.

    So HOW IS this ship, which as documented above will likely dominate all other classes with very high range agility and speed a good idea?




  • Jamie Helm
    Jamie Helm
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    @Cyrus Leung said:
    It's essentially a frigate on steroids.

    Surely it can't beat the ban hammer hurricane?

  • Cyrus Leung
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    edited 5 Dec 2017, 10:10AM

    @Cyrus Leung said:
    It's essentially a frigate on steroids.

    Surely it can't beat the ban hammer hurricane?

    Well the Ban Hammer takes 98% less damage at Mk6 so probably the Ban Hammer will still win.
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  • onlyfuzzy
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    The real question to ask is can we stack the harmonic reactors?
    As in, if I use this ship as support for a basing fleet can I put 5 Harmonic siege reactors on it?

  • Paul Welch
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    What does it matter? The game has never looked less viable long term. Kix does not give us any reason to continue to play hard and work hard to get things. Kix needs to give us a reason to continue and proof that they wont just shut down the game soon.

  • Nightmare Deathlock
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    @onlyfuzzy said:
    The real question to ask is can we stack the harmonic reactors?
    As in, if I use this ship as support for a basing fleet can I put 5 Harmonic siege reactors on it?

    No, only 1 of each max

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  • onlyfuzzy
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    @Nightmare Deathlock said:
    No, only 1 of each max

    What’s your reasoning behind this? Each of the reactors gives a +1 to shield harmonics, so if we can use 1 of each, at the very least it seems it’s stacking shield...

  • Simon_Po
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    onlyfuzzy said:

    @Nightmare Deathlock said:
    No, only 1 of each max

    What’s your reasoning behind this? Each of the reactors gives a +1 to shield harmonics, so if we can use 1 of each, at the very least it seems it’s stacking shield...

    I would expact the reactors to be stackable, too.
    Shield harmonics must be stackable, because this bonus is in every reactor.
    why should we have so much special slots if not to stack multiple reactors?

    maybe @CM Chris can clear up things... 

  • Junren-JS
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    VVulty said:

    What's Pegasus' firing arc?

    Should be similar to a frigate. 
  • Junren-JS
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    Simon_Po said:
    onlyfuzzy said:

    @Nightmare Deathlock said:
    No, only 1 of each max

    What’s your reasoning behind this? Each of the reactors gives a +1 to shield harmonics, so if we can use 1 of each, at the very least it seems it’s stacking shield...

    I would expact the reactors to be stackable, too.
    Shield harmonics must be stackable, because this bonus is in every reactor.
    why should we have so much special slots if not to stack multiple reactors?

    maybe @CM Chris can clear up things... 

    First question I asked CM Chris when I saw everything.  You can have one of each reactor on the Pegasus, but not multiples of the same type. 

    So as an example, you can put 1x Harmonic Agility Reactor, 1x Harmonic Warfare Reactor, and 1x Harmonic Siege Reactor all on the same Pegasus, but NOT 2x Harmonic Agility Reactor. 

  • RedFish2525
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    @Junren-JS ; Do you happen to have any information on the MK bonuses? Do these beasts get stasis resistance? Do they get a bonus slot at MK4, and what is it?
  • Junren-JS
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    @Junren-JS ; Do you happen to have any information on the MK bonuses? Do these beasts get stasis resistance? Do they get a bonus slot at MK4, and what is it?
    I'll ask. 
  • Nightmare Deathlock
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    @Junren-JS said:
    Simon_Po said:


    onlyfuzzy said:

    @Nightmare Deathlock said:

    No, only 1 of each max

    What’s your reasoning behind this? Each of the reactors gives a +1 to shield harmonics, so if we can use 1 of each, at the very least it seems it’s stacking shield...

    I would expact the reactors to be stackable, too.
    Shield harmonics must be stackable, because this bonus is in every reactor.
    why should we have so much special slots if not to stack multiple reactors?

    maybe @CM Chris can clear up things... 

    First question I asked CM Chris when I saw everything.  You can have one of each reactor on the Pegasus, but not multiples of the same type. 

    So as an example, you can put 1x Harmonic Agility Reactor, 1x Harmonic Warfare Reactor, and 1x Harmonic Siege Reactor all on the same Pegasus, but NOT 2x Harmonic Agility Reactor. 

    Shields arent as badly needed as say harmonic warfare or agility... You can imagine 20 points of warfare (5 pegasus + 5x3 harmonic warfare reactors) would be kinda ridiculous, but even then, 1 of each gives 15 shield, 10 warfare and siege, and somewhere around 10 agility (assuming chase thrusters and agility carrier) so its fairly large boost anyway

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