FM / Update Discussion 11/1

  • JamesEllis
    JamesEllis
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2017 Posts: 86
    Rammstein said:
    NewTerror said:
    NewTerror said:
    NewTerror said:
    @CMrampage

    Talk to the team again. This video is from 1 week ago doing the FM!



    This is the target this week.  How can you all say it hasn't changed?




    I would point you to a facebook group post as well about the topic but I suspect that the link will be removed.


    The 82 was changed from last week.  This isn't a hard thing to confirm.


    @CMrampage @Specialist aka Specs @GD_Aruspex ;

    Is there any word on the change of the smaller targets like the 82?  However these were not supposed to be changed.  Looking for an update when they will be back as normal in the FM

    Please see above information to show you that these targets were indeed changed.  Any sort of response on this would be greatly appreciated.
    I appreciate your persistence, I really do, as I am heavily affected by this as well. However, kix has made it clear they are going the gaslight route and claim the 82s werent changed. There was even the one poster that claimed the target in the video never existed anywhere. Id say just take that as an indication as to what kind of company kixeye is and make your future decisions accordingly.
    these targets are laggy as fck
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  • John1975
    John1975
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    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 1,687
    Just got a pop up you can refit garrison fleets for 50% off providing you do it instant.  This is a good thing but unfortunately wont help those that really needed it. The spenders have already refit using coin/tokens.   Ones left to get it done are your non spenders.  By being instant only no slow cooking and no tokens can be used if they have any.  Good idea just got twisted to point its not going to help ones that actually need it. Those of us that do spend have already done the refits so we wont be spending. 
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  • FreeperTroll
    FreeperTroll
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    Joined Mar 2014 Posts: 45
    No help for this player that has a second IB 1 day from done.........now I don't know if it's built "right".
  • Grumpy Pirate
    Grumpy Pirate
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 3,304
    John1975 said:
    Just got a pop up you can refit garrison fleets for 50% off providing you do it instant.  This is a good thing but unfortunately wont help those that really needed it. The spenders have already refit using coin/tokens.   Ones left to get it done are your non spenders.  By being instant only no slow cooking and no tokens can be used if they have any.  Good idea just got twisted to point its not going to help ones that actually need it. Those of us that do spend have already done the refits so we wont be spending. 
    If you want a real laugh, check out the date on that "offer"

    "Captains with the new changes to the FM this week, it’s the perfect time to build or refit your Garrison Fleets. Until November 7th at 9:00am PDT, take advantage of a 50% discount on instant builds and instant refits of Icebreakers and Monoliths."
    Sitting back watching the whole fine mess while sipping a cup of tea
  • Firth of Clyde
    Firth of Clyde
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 119
    Now.... the BIG question? Is that a typo and should read "until November 17th" or...... was this intended to go out last week????   lol
  • Sputnik001
    Sputnik001
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 671
    John1975 said:
    Just got a pop up you can refit garrison fleets for 50% off providing you do it instant.  This is a good thing but unfortunately wont help those that really needed it. The spenders have already refit using coin/tokens.   Ones left to get it done are your non spenders.  By being instant only no slow cooking and no tokens can be used if they have any.  Good idea just got twisted to point its not going to help ones that actually need it. Those of us that do spend have already done the refits so we wont be spending. 
    If you want a real laugh, check out the date on that "offer"

    "Captains with the new changes to the FM this week, it’s the perfect time to build or refit your Garrison Fleets. Until November 7th at 9:00am PDT, take advantage of a 50% discount on instant builds and instant refits of Icebreakers and Monoliths."
    My offer said until the 9th!!!

    Glad to see that Kix QA team is out in force
  • Xcalubur
    Xcalubur
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 1,325
    Does any one maybe knows a world with low or no lag so we can play a bit again without shocking and jumping fleets please ??
    :pJust think simple: it is still just a game:p
  • kixeyeuser_5037668
    kixeyeuser_5037668
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Aug 2015 Posts: 842

    @CaptainKenny7 said:
    kixeyeuser_5037668 said:

    What a shocker yet another "fix" to their new FM coin coin coin your refits boys and girls give uncle kix more money....

    i dont get how they dont get how insulting and inflammatory this so called offer is to many of the player base
    bad kixeye,go sit in the corner for a week

    Because in their mind they justify it by saying look at this generous offer. (Then sit there hoping people buy it)

  • Drax
    Drax
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    edited 15 Nov 2017, 6:26PM
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  • Lakhbir Singh
    Lakhbir Singh
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    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 89
    Drax said:
     like how they have built that huge flaw into the FM making it super easy for everyone to get points from the 115, Wednesday is going to be a blast then it will be back to the drawing board, because they won't leave it that easy to get points.
    it's never easy to get points from FM these days
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  • hanz heizer
    hanz heizer
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 360
    edited 15 Nov 2017, 9:51AM
    lol Kixeye you throw out the TLC´s again and than what ? you think those who not was able to do them before your "re-balance" are able to do them now ? you really think peeps will coin refits again ? you just killed the game,thats a fact.most cant do FM anymore.most cant hit bases anymore since your overpowered weapons are up.only a few King and bus owners run around and smash every1.yesterday i took my baser and wanted hit bases.4 from 6 been dead and i lost fun.wonder if you really know what he word "balance" mean.and internal test was possitive from new FM targets ? i bet your test with a few selected players (whales) will work out to.but point is that many of your customers not has the stuff those big boys have.cant wait to see your "re re balanced" FM targets tomoz.but i dont expect to much.

  • Kapitan_Krapalot
    Kapitan_Krapalot
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Nov 2015 Posts: 1,461
    FishBite said:
    I'm glad I haven't done any refits (don't have the SY time anyway) & I hope that the "select group of players" are those that we trust, & not a bunch of out & out whales who don't give a toss. But I suspect that we'll find out soon enough.
    I am wondering what Kixeye will do for those who are in that intermediate stage, who can't hit the 89s, but could do the 88s. They're the players most affected by this change. Either they build a whole new fleet, & have to sit out the FM (Or grind the lower targets) or... Maybe they move onto another game out of frustration.
    We also hope they Tested the intermediate targets with tech low - mid lvls have access to; and didn't just build a fleet of the latest and greatest to experiment with, while they were on the test server.
    Sadly, I doubt they did.

    I recall a couple years ago people were mad about a target so one of the Devs made a video to show how to do the target.  He tested the target with R16 weapons.  Yes, R16!!!  he of course went on to show how easy the target was.


    Watch the video at the 0:45 second point when he highlights the weapon and shows it is R16







    That raid cycle was so unsuccessful for Kix that they pulled the plug on it 2 raids in. "You need 3 stabs at it" for what cost on repairs? Many just out & out refused to do it.
    If the FM is going to be the same, I suspect many will just go "Fk this, other games out there to play"
    A pirate who hates stupid, lazy pirates who don't work for their tech, nor attempt to improve themselves by application of effort.
    Hulls won: A lot, including many I won't even bother to build. Hulls not won: More than I care to name, & plenty I don't want.
  • ali.parr
    ali.parr
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 391
     Just to make things more confused this gets posted on FB.

    "GD Aruspex on FB  -  Stay tuned (to the usual channels) for some news about improvements to the Monolith."

    Every time you think this farce has peaked, they turn up the "entertainment" a bit more.


     

  • Kapitan_Krapalot
    Kapitan_Krapalot
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Nov 2015 Posts: 1,461
    ali.parr said:
     Just to make things more confused this gets posted on FB.

    "GD Aruspex on FB  -  Stay tuned (to the usual channels) for some news about improvements to the Monolith."

    Every time you think this farce has peaked, they turn up the "entertainment" a bit more.


    "Quick, quick, if you don't have the Mono, coin a fleet & ram them into VXP targets (more coin) for that all important rank"
    A pirate who hates stupid, lazy pirates who don't work for their tech, nor attempt to improve themselves by application of effort.
    Hulls won: A lot, including many I won't even bother to build. Hulls not won: More than I care to name, & plenty I don't want.
  • Way Over Due
    Way Over Due
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 59
    this game is about done, when you can't help anyone and you pull apart the fabric why I still play this game. I used to like to help people during the FM, but when you can't prep for other people to build that friendship up, you take away the team work aspect of the game. When you make it so we can no longer prep 7 tier targets for people, meaning we can not help our friends, you take away the team work aspect of the game yet again. (raid targets)
     
    1. I no longer play to help anyone else but myself, thus the decline in my spending for that same period during the raid.
    2. I no longer have any campaigns to do to win stuff I missed, thus the decline in my spending.
    3. I no longer suicide my fleets at a target since it is now based on how much damage is done. that is $50 USD right there in a drop of my money..

    every way I spent money on this, I am no longer finding myself capable of doing so in the same way I have done in the past.

    btw. when repairs were free years ago, when the game was at it's height, people spent their money on builds and ships to get them done early.

    last raid I spent $20 and used all three of my GM crews, thinking it was going to be my last raid. My ships are fully built and they were terrible at your targets, the first raid the same ships only cost 5 minutes or less in repairs, but I "BLITZ" the whole raid just so I could get it done. Now the same fleet sucks against the same targets and the game is soo hard I am ready to give up since you cut off all the ways I had fun making friendships in this game.
    none
  • Way Over Due
    Way Over Due
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 59
    We are re-running Defensive Arts TLC - Which will allow you earn more charged armors which will allow you mitigate more damage.

    great if you have the ships to do it, what about the people who still have apollos and can not do it?

    I need Skyfire and phoenix build tokens.. give me some of them and I will do these campaigns..
    none
  • Kapitan_Krapalot
    Kapitan_Krapalot
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Nov 2015 Posts: 1,461
    We are re-running Defensive Arts TLC - Which will allow you earn more charged armors which will allow you mitigate more damage.

    great if you have the ships to do it, what about the people who still have apollos and can not do it?

    I need Skyfire and phoenix build tokens.. give me some of them and I will do these campaigns..
    I have ONE Apollo that I used to tank for Rhinos in the 1st Legion raid cycle in B-sets. That fleet did its job, so I saw no need to build more. Megas never interested me (I have one built, & plan to do nothing with it)
    No Sky Carriers, for obvious reasons (left Jan, returned Oct)
    So a very pointless TLC.
    The other TLCs I can do beyond PP2. 

    As per my previous comment-if the FM targets retuned aren't viable, I'm gone.

    Any other player coming back to the game will find that they CANNOT compete in any shape or form, unless with a healthy coin deposit.. Why should they inject a healthy investment into a game that will only want them to invest more?
    A pirate who hates stupid, lazy pirates who don't work for their tech, nor attempt to improve themselves by application of effort.
    Hulls won: A lot, including many I won't even bother to build. Hulls not won: More than I care to name, & plenty I don't want.
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