Why is the Invasion Leader Board such an obvious JOKE ???

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Mini-HUDMAN
Mini-HUDMAN
Potential Threat
Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 55
edited 13 Oct 2017, 11:50AM
These Invasion Leader Boards are really getting old!  To test the ridiculousness of the times I am seeing, I placed maxed Workshopped Chaplains all around the base at all the spawn points, on aggressive.  I was trying to see exactly how fast someone might be able to get through the very first, easy wave.  1:19 was the time.  That's basically how long it takes for all the zombies to spawn, as they were killed instantly, just as soon as they spawned.  And we all know Level 1 is the easiest.  So...  1:19 X 10 waves = 13:10 -- That's the absolute fastest time, assuming all waves spawn just as quickly as wave 1, and assuming you'd get through all waves the 1st time around.

But you cannot get through waves 9 & 10 with just one go at it.  And I won't spend the coin to see how many go's it would actually take.  But I'm thinking a coiner would need an absolute minimum of 2 go's at wave 9 & at the absolute very least, 3 goes at wave 10.  That brings our total up to 17:07 & I still don't think it's even remotely possible, but just in case it is, the questions are...  So why in the world is the leader at 9:59 ???  How is that even remotely possible ???  Why aren't they banned ???  Why do I have to compete with an obvious hack ???  In-fact, the top 247 players on the Leader board have a faster time than 17:07.  How do I compete with that ???  And why should I ???  Kixeye, fix your ****!  Ban the hacks!  Period!  Sick. of. trying. to. compete. with. them.  Period!

Top 100 get 21 tokens, top 300 get 15 tokens, & the top 600 get 10 tokens.  Because I firmly believe there will be at least 300 with a time lower than 17:07 & because I more firmly believe I'll never get to 17:07, as it's pretty **** impossible, I guess I am playing to be in the that top 600 section & get less than half the tokens that the cheaters get.  So again, you have once more showed me that the cheaters will get rewarded & the players will get screwed!  **** ****!!!
  • Ronny_E76
    Ronny_E76
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 440
    after opening and watching the board i can not close it. i have to reload game!!! what aBS!!!!
  • Maximus_Destructicus
    Maximus_Destructicus
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 3,561
    your post is just one assumption after another, lol

  • Ulrich Wastian
    Ulrich Wastian
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 187
    your post is just one assumption after another, lol
    you are quite right with your statement, but if you play the event itself, you believe his eyes hardly what is displayed on the Leaderboard!

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  • Mini-HUDMAN
    Mini-HUDMAN
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    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 55
    your post is just one assumption after another, lol
    Yeah?  Have you played it through?  What is your time?
  • Mini-HUDMAN
    Mini-HUDMAN
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    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 55
    your post is just one assumption after another, lol
    you are quite right with your statement, but if you play the event itself, you believe his eyes hardly what is displayed on the Leaderboard!
    Care to clarify?
  • Mini-HUDMAN
    Mini-HUDMAN
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    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 55
    Ronny_E76 said:
    after opening and watching the board i can not close it. i have to reload game!!! what aBS!!!!
    I am having the same problem.  Can't close leaderboard once opened...  Have to restart game.
  • Redeemer
    Redeemer
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 3,425

    @Mini-HUDMAN said:
    Ronny_E76 said:

    after opening and watching the board i can not close it. i have to reload game!!! what aBS!!!!

    I am having the same problem.  Can't close leaderboard once opened...  Have to restart game.

    Go to the world map first THEN open it, should be fine then

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  • Rob de R
    Rob de R
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 1,936
    i think it can be done in less then 15 minutes depending how your toons are equiped and if you get the full faction bonus...
    i fcked up good on the final wave.. needed some tries for that so my time 20:14
    till wave 10 it was 10 minutes and something but wave10 is pretty hard ..
    i already have seen enough zombies already and really don`t need to see them in event ... especially those way to op spitters

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  • RedsteelReturns
    RedsteelReturns
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2017 Posts: 23

    @Mini-HUDMAN said:
    Maximus_Destructicus said:

    your post is just one assumption after another, lol

    0

    Yeah?  Have you played it through?  What is your time?

    So far I completed wave 9 and I am at 8:46. I figure I will end up in the 11 minute range

    I only got 2.5 hours damage from wave 9 and they didn't crack my inner defense

    I felt the same frustration last night till I found the correct units to use.

    It's a matter of watching the videos online....seeing whats coming from where and countering it

    I admit though I would love to see the base that did it in less ten minutes

  • Mini-HUDMAN
    Mini-HUDMAN
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    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 55
    Redsteel, the 1st time through, 27 minutes, but was able to get all the fire "accessories" to give it a good restart.  Started with all maxed & workshopped Chaplains, in spawn points, as I thought they would be the fastest.  Now I am mixing in maxed workshopped with fire, Roland & Hammers.  Bunkers are mixed with fire throwing workshopped Acolytes & Spartans.  But Z's aren't making it to the base, let alone getting in range of the bunkers in the early levels.  And with the restart, I am healing the base & units 100% between waves.  I'm about to start wave 4 & time is at 3:19, so it appears waves 2 & 3 are faster than wave 1 was.  And if you're wondering, I'm not playing the event on this account.  I'm playing on a Level 46 account that has been around since the world map was introduced.  It was forum-banned several years ago...  I'll give it an honest try & see what the time will be.  But if there are different/ better units to use, please tell.
  • RedsteelReturns
    RedsteelReturns
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2017 Posts: 23

    Attack dogs are also very useful

    I use 5 stealth Zks that I keep back in a corner.... come up behind the spitters and one shot them

    I use chaplains in my bunkers and move them to where they will be most useful

  • Team Beavis
    Team Beavis
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 106

    Same crying every invasion. Just because someone can do it faster than you does not mean they are a cheater/hacker. For one thing Chaplains are not the best unit to use on zombies. I have completed through wave 6 so far and the zombies have not even come close to my first layer of walls. Invasion is more about the units you use and how you use them then it is about your base. Jericho with rapid fire tech is still your friend in this zombie invasion. Purifiers and acolytes are not great for zombies as they can only shoot one thing at a time. Hammers do more of a wide spread shot, which makes them much better for zombies. Also players who get top scores also might change their base up in between the waves to adjust for spawn points. As far as change turrets and move drone silos closer to spawn points. Rather then calling them cheaters maybe you should try and get to know them and learn what they are actually doing.

  • Silver Surfer
    Silver Surfer
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    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 220
    I completed in just under 17mins, waves 1-9 first try, wave 10 took 2 tries. I use chaplains in base with hammers for those that get in, still use a toon of Howlers to run round outside of base for most waves....
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  • DOBBA PHOENIX
    DOBBA PHOENIX
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 679
    I am at 12 minutes on wave 9, so most likely I will get a time of like 17-20 minutes if everything goes right. 

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  • Black DEVIL HH180
    Black DEVIL HH180
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    Joined Apr 2016 Posts: 29
    i got thr all waves with hardly any damage apart from wave 10 took 3 go's and 2 full toons dead on wave 10 my time is 15.18
  • Mini-HUDMAN
    Mini-HUDMAN
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    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 55
    edited 14 Oct 2017, 5:23AM
    17:13 -- Pretty close to my original estimation.  And that's putting killing units at all spawn points, through wave 8 & having to do wave 10 two times.  So, how are people getting it done in 8:53 ?  I was over 12 minutes before wave 10, so I never had a chance.  And I started each wave with a fully repaired base & fully repaired toons, & all mines at 100%.  Plus I was using my level 46 account that has been around since the World map was created,  8:53 is almost less than half of my best time, so I again call BS!!!
  • Skipjack
    Skipjack
    WC Mod
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 3,181
    These Invasion Leader Boards are really getting old!  To test the ridiculousness of the times I am seeing, I placed maxed Workshopped Chaplains all around the base at all the spawn points, on aggressive.  I was trying to see exactly how fast someone might be able to get through the very first, easy wave.  1:19 was the time.  That's basically how long it takes for all the zombies to spawn, as they were killed instantly, just as soon as they spawned.  And we all know Level 1 is the easiest.  So...  1:19 X 10 waves = 13:10 -- That's the absolute fastest time, assuming all waves spawn just as quickly as wave 1, and assuming you'd get through all waves the 1st time around.

    But you cannot get through waves 9 & 10 with just one go at it.  And I won't spend the coin to see how many go's it would actually take.  But I'm thinking a coiner would need an absolute minimum of 2 go's at wave 9 & at the absolute very least, 3 goes at wave 10.  That brings our total up to 17:07 & I still don't think it's even remotely possible, but just in case it is, the questions are...  So why in the world is the leader at 9:59 ???  How is that even remotely possible ???  Why aren't they banned ???  Why do I have to compete with an obvious hack ???  In-fact, the top 247 players on the Leader board have a faster time than 17:07.  How do I compete with that ???  And why should I ???  Kixeye, fix your ****!  Ban the hacks!  Period!  Sick. of. trying. to. compete. with. them.  Period!

    Top 100 get 21 tokens, top 300 get 15 tokens, & the top 600 get 10 tokens.  Because I firmly believe there will be at least 300 with a time lower than 17:07 & because I more firmly believe I'll never get to 17:07, as it's pretty **** impossible, I guess I am playing to be in the that top 600 section & get less than half the tokens that the cheaters get.  So again, you have once more showed me that the cheaters will get rewarded & the players will get screwed!  **** ****!!!
    Frustration and criticism is welcome, keep it away from toxicity though....we do not discuss cheaters or hacks in forums for a reason and pointing finger at the game team doesn't get anyone anywhere

    I have not edited you thread and I will not close it for now as long as the players stay on point.  I am hoping by reading the other responses you will see that not all people on the leaser-boards are T-waffles, and the ones that are legit have figured out ways to think outside the box and finish the event successfully with good times for completion.  fell free to PM one of them and most I am sure are willing to share what they did to get where they are.  I get that it is frustrating, reach to someone in a PM and let them share what they know.
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  • Nucking Futs
    Nucking Futs
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 442
    I ended up with a time of 10:06 and that is with doing wave 10 twice due to a dc 20 seconds after I started wave 10.  Started wave 10 with a time of 7:59.  It is possible if done correctly.  The right toons and placement of a few base items makes a big difference on Invasion.    
  • ivyh206
    ivyh206
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 196
    41minutes here but i don't coin and i don't have defenders in my base just getting it done for the 3 tokens is enough. There is too much other **** to do in this game to worry about winning invasion.
  • Kingmaker 1
    Kingmaker 1
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 49
    My first run through was completed in 12 mins 32 secs. My second in 10 mins 12 secs. Most waves can be done in less than 1 minute (Wave 4 took me 43 secs) and it is possible to complete all waves in one go!!!
  • SAMURAI_JAY
    SAMURAI_JAY
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Nov 2013 Posts: 1,065
    I am not sure why it took you 1:19 on wave one. I think i did it faster without any troops.

    I managed to get a time just over 12 min. i was smoking them zombie until wave 9. wave 9 have so much lag i couldn't control my units. had to do a restart and finish it off. I also had to do a restart on wave 10 but the game was running fine on that wave.

    I know i could get my time down to low 11 min, maybe even 10 min, if i restart but i am happy with 12 min.  
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  • KirbySockRobber
    KirbySockRobber
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 1,064
    These Invasion Leader Boards are really getting old!  To test the ridiculousness of the times I am seeing, I placed maxed Workshopped Chaplains all around the base at all the spawn points, on aggressive.  I was trying to see exactly how fast someone might be able to get through the very first, easy wave.  1:19 was the time.  That's basically how long it takes for all the zombies to spawn, as they were killed instantly, just as soon as they spawned.  And we all know Level 1 is the easiest.  So...  1:19 X 10 waves = 13:10 -- That's the absolute fastest time, assuming all waves spawn just as quickly as wave 1, and assuming you'd get through all waves the 1st time around.

    But you cannot get through waves 9 & 10 with just one go at it.  And I won't spend the coin to see how many go's it would actually take.  But I'm thinking a coiner would need an absolute minimum of 2 go's at wave 9 & at the absolute very least, 3 goes at wave 10.  That brings our total up to 17:07 & I still don't think it's even remotely possible, but just in case it is, the questions are...  So why in the world is the leader at 9:59 ???  How is that even remotely possible ???  Why aren't they banned ???  Why do I have to compete with an obvious hack ???  In-fact, the top 247 players on the Leader board have a faster time than 17:07.  How do I compete with that ???  And why should I ???  Kixeye, fix your ****!  Ban the hacks!  Period!  Sick. of. trying. to. compete. with. them.  Period!

    Top 100 get 21 tokens, top 300 get 15 tokens, & the top 600 get 10 tokens.  Because I firmly believe there will be at least 300 with a time lower than 17:07 & because I more firmly believe I'll never get to 17:07, as it's pretty **** impossible, I guess I am playing to be in the that top 600 section & get less than half the tokens that the cheaters get.  So again, you have once more showed me that the cheaters will get rewarded & the players will get screwed!  **** ****!!!
    Wave one for me was 00:48.
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  • Crazzy Scorpion
    Crazzy Scorpion
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    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 33
    cost me atleast 30 a 45 sec to load the damm page so i dont see th point of doing it 
  • eric.ogle.1232
    eric.ogle.1232
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    Joined Mar 2014 Posts: 60
    the leader board is not working for all , i had 17 min 49 sec , i think that was slow for time

  • Whiskey-Tango3
    Whiskey-Tango3
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 368
    1 time through for me 9:59 time. let your base fully heal in between waves, the clock does not keep going
  • Mini-HUDMAN
    Mini-HUDMAN
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    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 55
    Just did another restart, this time, I alternated Chaplains & War Dogs, all placed at the spawn points.  When the Z's showed up, they instantly died, & since I am running the Terrible Two, Twin Titan Op, the Titan's drones dropped, like it was the end of the battle, immediately after each wave of Z's.  Then another wave of Z's would spawn & the drones would come back, then immediately drop again.  So I know I am killing them pretty much instantly, just as soon as they spawn, & there is no way possible for me to do it any faster.  And the time is 1:08.  How is it possible to get :48, like KirbySockRobber did?  That's 20 secs faster than me & I can't see any possible way to kill them any faster than instantly.  I guess I just cannot compete.

    And my system is a Gaming computer with an Intel i7, 2.6 Ghz, 16 GB RAM, Solid State 1.5 TB hard drive, w/ NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M w/ 4GB dedicated RAM graphics card.  Running Windows 10 64 Bit.  All non-essential processes are shut down, and using Maxthon Browser with no additional add-ons, except Flash.  (Tested Maxthon as the fastest, in my personal tests for War Commander)  Maxthon & Flash are updated to the latest versions.  I am connected at a 24 ms Ping, 90.14 Mbps Download & 9.21 Mbps upload.  And in platoon wars, I almost always win, winning 9 out of 10 attacks, where the enemy is trying to attack my platoon back, so I know speed isn't the problem, yet speed is the problem with this event.  There is no possible way for me to get it done any faster.

    And when I read SAMURAI_JAY's post, I am further frustrated, as he cleared level 1 faster than 1:19 without any troops.  That would mean waiting for the Z's to actually get in range of the base defense turrets before they are killed, whereas I am killing them as instantly as possible.  And I did it this way through wave 8.  On wave 9, I put defenders in the base, as opposed to the spawn points & cleared wave 9 on the 1st go.  Wave 10 took 2 attempts for me, for a total time of 17:13.  But SAMAURI_JAY, with 2 goes at wave 9 & 2 goes at wave 10 completed it in just over 12 mins.  That's 5 minutes faster & he had to have 1 more attempt at wave 9 than I did.

    Thanks SkipJack for not deleting or closing.  I am just frustrated, & PM'ing anyone won't help, as I'm killing them instantly on 80% of the waves.  PM'ing might help to clear wave 10 on the 1st go, but that's not really the problem, as I'm already over 12 mins before wave 10.  It might help to get to 15 mins total if I cleared wave 10 in one attempt, but the payout will be the same, so It's not worth it to even try at this point.
  • Evilution937
    Evilution937
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 8
    I made it in 9:45 and that was having to do Wave 10 twice. I used Sparts in bunkers, Base toon was Acolytes and Chaps on aggr, and I controlled Phalanx and Jericho for wave 1-9. Through wave 8, I only had 48m total damage. Wave 10, I kept Phalanx on the base. Yes, a mistake! So on the second go, I switched for 4 Hammers and still Jericho. Left units on stand except the hammers. I placed the hammers on the left side and on Aggr along with most of my mines. I hit the Jericho Tactic right away and the hammers wiped out all those Spitters in a matter of seconds. Then I turned the whole rest of the toon to aggr to kill the rest of what was coming at me. If I had started with Hammers for Wave 10, I would have been under 9:00. It's doable, you need the right toons, and be set up correctly. Control Phalanx and Jericho so they never contact the Zomb's. Wave 1-8 never even made it to my mines which are out side of my walls. 

    I'm sure many others have different ways to do these events, but we all have our own ways and styles. That is what worked for me. As far as calling the guys with very low times cheats & hackers...I'll say this, Get on my level!
  • SmokinNevilsHze
    SmokinNevilsHze
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 467
    edited 14 Oct 2017, 1:02PM
    Your numbers are way way off, I managed to beat wave 1 in 52 seconds, I needed 2 tries to beat wave 10 and finished with a time of 10m25s and I am 100% legit, having the right units, knowledge of WC, skill, strategy and positioning of units is key. Keep trying, you're clearly missing  some of the techniques to be fast and there is no substitute for practice.


  • Mini-HUDMAN
    Mini-HUDMAN
    Potential Threat
    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 55
    Glutton for punishment.  Gave it one more go.  14:31 -- Went through all waves in 1 attempt each, including wave 10.  My wave 1 is still 1:08, & I agree, something's not right with my numbers.  But I can't figure it out.  Based on other's posts, I should be coming in just under 9 minutes.  I am 5 1/2 minutes off.  I'll stop calling others cheats & just call my account messed-up.  I will submit a ticket, but I dunno where they'd start to try to fix something like this.  I think it's the lag before each wave starts.  I hit Defend & nothing happens for several seconds, but I guess the clock is still ticking though.
  • Perry299
    Perry299
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined May 2013 Posts: 1,815
    Glutton for punishment.  Gave it one more go.  14:31 -- Went through all waves in 1 attempt each, including wave 10.  My wave 1 is still 1:08, & I agree, something's not right with my numbers.  But I can't figure it out.  Based on other's posts, I should be coming in just under 9 minutes.  I am 5 1/2 minutes off.  I'll stop calling others cheats & just call my account messed-up.  I will submit a ticket, but I dunno where they'd start to try to fix something like this.  I think it's the lag before each wave starts.  I hit Defend & nothing happens for several seconds, but I guess the clock is still ticking though.
    my opinion is this..... clock starts when you hit defend... clock ends when you get the wave completed popup..... the gap you have between those 2 things is time that is added... 
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