AXIS Frigate

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Stef_One
Stef_One
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will there be a frigate again in the axis season?
one with good armour pls, no condor but hurri-style :smiley:

and then bring a xeno/axis version of the binary thruster pls

"what looks good, flies good" <old aviators wisdom>
  • OnionD
    OnionD
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    Joined Oct 2017 Posts: 63

    Unfortunately no frigate in axis

  • Stef_One
    Stef_One
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    Joined Jun 2016 Posts: 276

    yet.. :neutral:

    "what looks good, flies good" <old aviators wisdom>
  • Darth Ironclad
    Darth Ironclad
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    Joined Mar 2016 Posts: 511
    dont think there will be ever new frigates again...
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  • John Jones22
    John Jones22
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    Joined Feb 2015 Posts: 3,291

    No, without frigate kix can throw out new factions one month quicker.

  • Aletheides
    Aletheides
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    Joined Dec 2015 Posts: 1,388
    Its probably more likely we get a marauder frigate than an AXIS one. Considering that Kixeye has said that they skipped the frigate as they dont feel it has any PvE function in their new event design. But for PvP it would certainly be interesting and as Marauders is a PvP faction...
  • Nightmare Deathlock
    Nightmare Deathlock
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    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 8,240

    @Aletheides said:
    Its probably more likely we get a marauder frigate than an AXIS one. Considering that Kixeye has said that they skipped the frigate as they dont feel it has any PvE function in their new event design. But for PvP it would certainly be interesting and as Marauders is a PvP faction...

    In axis or xeno? Unlikely but possible... Marauders have versions of older tech as well according to the "maybe" leaked purple lance destroyer

  • VVulty
    VVulty
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    Joined Oct 2015 Posts: 45

    Usual Marked-up frigates have bonuses against BSs, Xeno/AXIS don't have such ship-specific bonuses at all. What purpose you would like use frigates for? Build couple of Suppressors and enjoy flying forward and shooting 360 degrees, including backward (remember Ragnarok speed nerf? "No one should be able to running away and shooting simultaneously").

    But I must admit - something like 'Xeno armored binary thrusters' would be pretty helpful:)

  • Nightmare Deathlock
    Nightmare Deathlock
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    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 8,240

    Frigates were mostly used for decoys, for both basing and PvE... Which actually made them very useful in the long run because it reduced damage dealt to the remaining fleet, kixeye seems to think that "no damage breaks the game" so even frigates who would recieve damage anyway would reduce it so much that the coining would be reduced xD

  • Nightmare Deathlock
    Nightmare Deathlock
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    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 8,240

    With the way things are going frigates are unlikely to return... They hardly serve any purpose other than decoy (except tornado and hurricane... But those onew were built outside the frigates low armor style. A frigate now would practically be a faster cruiser with less slots to work with...)

  • dom.friant
    dom.friant
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    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 1,368

    @VVulty said:
    Usual Marked-up frigates have bonuses against BSs, Xeno/AXIS don't have such ship-specific bonuses at all. What purpose you would like use frigates for? Build couple of Suppressors and enjoy flying forward and shooting 360 degrees, including backward (remember Ragnarok speed nerf? "No one should be able to running away and shooting simultaneously").

    But I must admit - something like 'Xeno armored binary thrusters' would be pretty helpful:)

    Frigates also get stasis resist, and is the bonus I would expect on a marked up axis frigate. With harmonics system I sure they could have provided a bonus somehow that would serve in farming.

    I've used frigates since I started playing and are my favorite ship class, a much more fun to fly alternative to cutters, so I built frigates instead. I was really disappointed when xeno dropped a frigate, and more so when axis did as well.

    Because I like the Condor!
    http://i.imgur.com/80deZPv.png
  • dom.friant
    dom.friant
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    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 1,368

    @Aletheides said:
    Its probably more likely we get a marauder frigate than an AXIS one. Considering that Kixeye has said that they skipped the frigate as they dont feel it has any PvE function in their new event design. But for PvP it would certainly be interesting and as Marauders is a PvP faction...

    I thought so too, but it was stated by Chris and Leonis that Marauder ships and tech are based on axis, which seems to imply no axis frigate means no Marauder frigate. I sure hope I am wrong because I agree, a Maurader frigate would be cool. It was the one ship I was really hoping for

    Because I like the Condor!
    http://i.imgur.com/80deZPv.png
  • Nightmare Deathlock
    Nightmare Deathlock
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    @dom.friant said:

    @VVulty said:
    Usual Marked-up frigates have bonuses against BSs, Xeno/AXIS don't have such ship-specific bonuses at all. What purpose you would like use frigates for? Build couple of Suppressors and enjoy flying forward and shooting 360 degrees, including backward (remember Ragnarok speed nerf? "No one should be able to running away and shooting simultaneously").

    But I must admit - something like 'Xeno armored binary thrusters' would be pretty helpful:)

    Frigates also get stasis resist, and is the bonus I would expect on a marked up axis frigate. With harmonics system I sure they could have provided a bonus somehow that would serve in farming.

    I've used frigates since I started playing and are my favorite ship class, a much more fun to fly alternative to cutters, so I built frigates instead. I was really disappointed when xeno dropped a frigate, and more so when axis did as well.

    Its a fun class to control, their agility makes them fun to customize (wether you want strafe or rear speed) and they have a bettet time dodging anything but energy which makes trying to stay the **** away fun xD

  • invadingdingo
    invadingdingo
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    Joined Jul 2015 Posts: 414

    Frigates were meant to be piloted with skill. New VC has no piloting therefore no frigates.


  • Stef_One
    Stef_One
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    well frigs have always been a good counter against destroyers.. due to their strafing abilities the axis frig could dodge shatter exterms... even hurries can do so already, but needs good piloting and some luck...

    "what looks good, flies good" <old aviators wisdom>
  • GDIAX
    GDIAX
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 2,769

    Inb4 ship X is a frigate.

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  • Frankv
    Frankv
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    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 719
    gimme gimme gimme frigates!
    yes frigates are my fav ship class, so id like m even tho they are underpowered
  • Nightmare Deathlock
    Nightmare Deathlock
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    @Stef_One said:
    well frigs have always been a good counter against destroyers.. due to their strafing abilities the axis frig could dodge shatter exterms... even hurries can do so already, but needs good piloting and some luck...

    Potentially yeah... But chances of you hitting exterms before they hit a base is slim, and axis frigate may not get anything good knowing kixeye

  • M.V.K.0
    M.V.K.0
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    I'm going for the new AXIS X Ship to be a Boarding Ship/Marine Frigate.


    Thanks,

    MVK
  • Nightmare Deathlock
    Nightmare Deathlock
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    @M.V.K.0 said:
    I'm going for the new AXIS X Ship to be a Boarding Ship/Marine Frigate.

    Thanks,

    MVK

    Yeah thatll never happen lol... Boarding ships are one thing this game will never see.

  • Frankv
    Frankv
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    @M.V.K.0 said:
    I'm going for the new AXIS X Ship to be a Boarding Ship/Marine Frigate.

    Thanks,

    MVK

    Yeah thatll never happen lol... Boarding ships are one thing this game will never see.

    would be too OP lol. nice try tho. cool idea but not seen in vega. unless kix goes totaaly nutcase.... i mean, beyond that cuss nutcase is what they are atm :p
  • dom.friant
    dom.friant
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    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 1,368
    GDIAX said:

    Inb4 ship X is a frigate.


    I've considered that possibility myself... I hope you're right!

    Though I would still prefer to get a frigate apart from ship x, but I won't protest if that's how they work one it.
    Because I like the Condor!
    http://i.imgur.com/80deZPv.png
  • M.V.K.0
    M.V.K.0
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    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 870
    edited 8 Oct 2017, 5:56AM
    Frankv said:

    @M.V.K.0 said:
    I'm going for the new AXIS X Ship to be a Boarding Ship/Marine Frigate.

    Thanks,

    MVK

    Yeah thatll never happen lol... Boarding ships are one thing this game will never see.

    would be too OP lol. nice try tho. cool idea but not seen in vega. unless kix goes totaaly nutcase.... i mean, beyond that cuss nutcase is what they are atm :p
    Not necessarily, they could offer like a Stasis effect, could even get slower as time goes on, and if enough time passes even damage could be dealt.

    Level 1 could be like 10%-20% Stasis, with say a potential of up to 90 dps
    Level 2 could be like 15%-25% Stasis, with say a potential of up to 120 dps
    Level 3 could be like 20%-40% Stasis, with say a potential of up to 170 dps

    They could work like squadrons do, but with lesser range of course.

    The Ship could still sustain the Damage against Squadrons as it does for say X Ship-Specialist. 

    Support maybe like 1-2 Weapon Mounts for Weapons basically against Squadrons, Light Defense/Offense.

    Potential say 3-4 Boarding Squadrons/Groups.

    The Boarding/Marine Groups could have reasonable Armor and Speed.

    The Ship itself could still offer some reasonable Speed, rather Strife being better or not then turn is debatable.

    Could have maybe least 3 Armor Slots and 2 Shields, but One Shield might work with Exo-Shield.

    Could offer maybe 2 Resistance Slots though.

    2 Special/Componentl Slots.

    Maybe gain a new Special/Component of sorts. Something along the like of Trained or Skilled Officers maybe. Increase Speed of Boarding Groups and Perhaps increased Damage. 

    100% Shield Bypass for Boarding/Marine Squadrons.

    Boarding/Marine Ship sustains Max Targets 2. 

    Some of the Stats could be gained from Mk upgrades of course. 

    Or for Shields, if no Bypass..

    Stasis can still take effect, once time has placed, maybe just a second or two. But damage is say dealt to shields instead. Boarding/Marine Groups/Squadrons could be weapon type specific of course, Energy, Projectile, Alien, etc. Shield allowing 10% at least at all times could still be worth saying on Boarding ship in the Squadron gets through damage.
    Graphically there could be say 2-4 variants across the levels. 


    Thanks,

    MVK
  • Nightmare Deathlock
    Nightmare Deathlock
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    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 8,240

    Still would be broken... Its a boarding ship not a squadron type ship... So your literally sending troops onto a hull on the inside which makes it nearly impossible to determine health drain... Since unlike squadrons they dont need fuel to work xD

  • Ersha66
    Ersha66
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2016 Posts: 150
    No sense on putting boarding ships in a game without friendly fire and shot collisions from friendly targets.
    They are too much vulnerable and without purpose in that game....
    But can be fun if they can Hijack Reapers and turn them against AR,building time or creating a diversion, atleast a purpose.
  • Revann
    Revann
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    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 2,250

    Also, something no one seems to be thinking about the fact that we lost frigate and gained the specialist class. Which isn’t always supposed to have the same special skill set each tier(something kixeye said in the past) The suppressor is anti squadron. Idk if we will get more specialist ships or if there will legit just be a less ships

    -Git Gud 
  • Nightmare Deathlock
    Nightmare Deathlock
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    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 8,240

    @Revann said:
    Also, something no one seems to be thinking about the fact that we lost frigate and gained the specialist class. Which isn’t always supposed to have the same special skill set each tier(something kixeye said in the past) The suppressor is anti squadron. Idk if we will get more specialist ships or if there will legit just be a less ships

    I believe every faction from now on will recieve a ship X hull... Axis i think has one planned.

  • dom.friant
    dom.friant
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    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 1,368
    Revann said:

    Also, something no one seems to be thinking about the fact that we lost frigate and gained the specialist class. Which isn’t always supposed to have the same special skill set each tier(something kixeye said in the past) The suppressor is anti squadron. Idk if we will get more specialist ships or if there will legit just be a less ships


    Demon Corps got a frigate and a ship-x. I really like the idea of ship-x being something unusual, but I don't think it should replace frigates. 
    Because I like the Condor!
    http://i.imgur.com/80deZPv.png
  • Nightmare Deathlock
    Nightmare Deathlock
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    I dont think ship x was suppose to replace frigates... And dcs ship x is practically non existant to us.

  • Revann
    Revann
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    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 2,250

    @dom.friant said:
    Revann said:

    Also, something no one seems to be thinking about the fact that we lost frigate and gained the specialist class. Which isn’t always supposed to have the same special skill set each tier(something kixeye said in the past) The suppressor is anti squadron. Idk if we will get more specialist ships or if there will legit just be a less ships

    Demon Corps got a frigate and a ship-x. I really like the idea of ship-x being something unusual, but I don't think it should replace frigates. 

    Check again... the legion is NOT a specialist ship. It’s a piece of **** ship.

    -Git Gud 
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