Avalance vs Microwave

Mando_DS
Mando_DS
Potential Threat
Joined Sep 2013 Posts: 50
Just got back into War Commander about 2 weeks ago and was told the Avalanche is the newest OP turret. However I am getting mine close to maxed and noticed that the Microwave turret has a longer range AND more damage. I know the Avalanche ups the damage the longer it fires but is it really worth the trade off? Arguments below please? 

Currently looking at having 4 AA plasmas, 6 Avalanches and 8 Microwaves along with 2 Rail Launchers and 2 Seeker Missile turrets. Trying to have the best set up I can to get back into the game competitively.
  • Jest_Jesus
    Jest_Jesus
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    Joined Dec 2015 Posts: 1,504
    Microwave only has full effect at an extremely close range. where an avalanches damage multiplies if it says on one target up to 4x
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  • Jest_Jesus
    Jest_Jesus
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    Lil-Jesus said:
    Microwave only has full effect at an extremely close range. where an avalanches damage multiplies if it says on one target up to 4x
    honestly 6 aa plasma & 12 avalanche would be effective 
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  • altin2018
    altin2018
    Greenhorn
    Joined Apr 2013 Posts: 5
    edited 20 Feb 2017, 11:39AM
    i dont think microwave turret is that good
  • lomolife1174
    lomolife1174
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 9,114
    Avalanche Turrets are better than Microwave Turrets because of their superior Damage Filters. 
  • MuonGold
    MuonGold
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 218
    Neither turret is of any concern.  You must have faction units defending your base
  • tegetthoff
    tegetthoff
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    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 646
    Apart from damage filters: there are face dps values on these turrets. I guess at both those face values increase at MW with distance, at Avalanche with time. But what is the factor of increase? At what increment at what intervals?
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  • Jest_Jesus
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    Apart from damage filters: there are face dps values on these turrets. I guess at both those face values increase at MW with distance, at Avalanche with time. But what is the factor of increase? At what increment at what intervals?


    no idea but avalanches are a definite superior choice
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  • tegetthoff
    tegetthoff
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    edited 8 May 2017, 12:03PM
    Lil-Jesus said:


    Apart from damage filters: there are face dps values on these turrets. I guess at both those face values increase at MW with distance, at Avalanche with time. But what is the factor of increase? At what increment at what intervals?

    no idea but avalanches are a definite superior choice


    Yupp everyone says that. I just cannot figure out why. Let me compare max lvl turrets without the mythical damage filter.

    Avalanche: 600 range 3278 DPS 
    - if avalanche turret is not killed !within 10 seconds! then it gets a 100% damage buff which will make it go 6556
    - if avalanche is !not killed for 20 seconds! then it will get another 100% damage buff resulting in 9834 DPS
    - if this were not surreal enough, if the turret is still standing after 30 seconds of constant firing, then it will get higher DPS than Microwave turret, 13112,
    - if it survives with his enemy buddy for 40 seconds then it will go to 16390, where it is maxed out.
    - avalanche will loose its buff completely if enemy breaks contact even for just a sec

    Microwave turret : 700 range 9933 DPS
    - microwave has +100 range and from the first shot. As much DPS as the avalanche will only have after keeping contact and surviving enemy units for 20 seconds and avalanche will only have better dps after surviving with enemy units for 30 seconds.

    All this would tell me that microwave is far better. I do not question the old time players experience, I am mostly a dormant player but baccording to official stats, Microwave !should! be the clear winner, unless attacker is a complete idiot and is just standing in the firing line of avalanche for 30 seconds, and even then, let's sum up what happened.

    Secs elapsed   1-10        11-20       21-30      31-40      41-50

    MicroWave     10x9933  10x9933   10x9933  10x9933    10x9933    10x9933    10x9933   
    Damage dealt 93 330     186 660    279 990  372320      466 650     559 980     653 310    

    Avalanche      10x 3278  10x6556  10x9834  10x13112  10x16390  10x16390  10x16390 
    Damage dealt 32 780      98 340     196 680  327 800     491 700     655 600     819 500

    The mythical damage filters must be at work here as you guys say avalanche is better... it just should not be...

    Also there should be a damage increase at microwave with distance closing in, but I absolutely find no data on this... what factor, which increments it changes, at what distance it maxes out, hence it is not calculated in the table above. According to that, the avalanche will be better only if it survives enemy fire for 50 seconds, and even then it should be just marginally better...
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  • Kairento
    Kairento
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jun 2016 Posts: 540
    For short: Just take the avalance
    Hell of a turret. The king of defensive. Most effective againts aircraft, tanks... etc 
    It's only disadvantage is weak againts tightly group enemies like libs and non-unique units. 
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