Damage Protection Rule Changes

  • kizzaking
    kizzaking
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 4
    i dont understand you kixeye. with all these updates you are making it harder to succeed. recently due to the new player levels i am a 31 and therefore i can be attacked by anyone who is up to lvl 100. so that means im going to need to keep repairing and fixing my base. but also you decided to make collecting resources harder. so now when i do get my base destroyed you want my fleets to take damage as well to get resources. what the hell are you thinking. this means i will need to keep repairing and collecting resouirces but now you have made that close to impossible.
    are you thinking about the younger players too. how are they supposed to do well. in sec 4 we used to open salvos for younger players but due to the risk of dieing or having heaps of repairs, this ideal is ruined
    this needs to be thought about asap, otherwise many people will leave and new players will be rare.
  • DekkApe
    DekkApe
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 2
    WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU DOING KIXEYE!!!!!!!
    First lets deal with this new change. You talk about buddy bubbling. And you have stop that. Now you change the ranking system. I see no benefit to this at all exceot to make it more conveint to bigger players to gain more access to res by being able to farm less powerful bases or weaker ones due to the time length restrictions for building and upgrading things. Also I am seeing this as a way to compensate the big time coiners or spenders.

    1ST: Because for the buddy bubbling you yourself ( Kixeye ) even states a shrude tactic of buddy bubbling has been taken away YET you, yourself ( Kixeye ) will still allow you to bubble your base for a fee!

    2ND: Now with these changes new changes it seems that if you want not to be slammed by the big guys and coiners you have 2 choices. Thats coin yourself and spend lots of money. take the constant attacks and never get anything done for you're own base. Or quit. Not much for choices there.

    3RD: yOU ( kIXEYE ) put extra features in as ships weapons and specials for ships. But whats lacking is better weapons and componants for the bases.
    Fine you added the new wall feature which is good, " BUT " what good is extra wall pieces when there's not enough land to put it on.
    Also with the greater range of these new weapons and ships there should be an equally amount of base improvements too. so far I see it as a 1 sided deal here.
    I think if you put stronger weapons and ships out then you should put more stronger and better weapons and defense items for the bases also.

    4TH: I have heard and experienced this for myself also. When we are having technical difficulties don't just accuse us the player that it is our problem and not your servers.
    In fact most computers today are geared for some kind of online gaming. It's easy to pass the puck.!!

    5TH: In the last raid I decided to spend some money and did some weapon upgrades, refitting ships,upgrades to labs, and finally research in order to ave better fleets for the raid. Instead of being able to hit level 25 Typhoons I couldn't hit anything higher then a 22. Anything higher and the lag and glitching was so bad ships were not responding and people were loosing fleets left and right. so all the money spent was a waste for the raid. because using the same wapons just being upgraded did absolutely nothing to help. And I put a ticket in on it and still have not heard a thing on it.

    SO LETS GET WITH IT KIXEYE !!!!! Start balancing things out give us more base components to better defend our bases ( land tiles, weapons , turrets, etc.. ) to keep the super fleets getting in and harvesting the smaller guy. I am not saying make it easier, I am saying make it equal.!!! I like the game but am not happy with things being changed on us. Example the Bubbling - that's fine buddy bubbling you take it out OK. BUT don't leave it there for those who want to pay to get a 24h, 7d, 30d bubble either. I see that as a " Well you can have your bubble " not for free " " because your doing it as a tactical maneuver " But you can have it if you " PAY US KIXEYE TO HAVE ONE "

    I know this post will probably be deleted because its not all positive but i FIGURED I try and let You ( KIXEYE ) and others know what I think. I know there are alot of people out there who feel the same way.
    Hopefully you will be honorable and let this post stand as an Unbiased entity .

    THANKYOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS..........
  • Anthony Perez
    Anthony Perez
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    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 28
    I, for one, have been playing this game for over a year and a half. There are other people who have been playing just as long if not longer. I have enjoyed the game up until this point. I used to play PS3 quite a lot. The new updates are frustrating, given the level changes for salvages. It they were merely renamed like the bases, I would still be able to take the same salvages as before (29/33, now 45/55). I started this game as a non-coiner and began coining for raids, which I enjoyed. At this point, I will not be coining any longer due to the recent updates. I no longer enjoy this game and it looks like I may be going back to PS3.

    I am in an alliance and 99% of our group agrees that the changes will have us leaving this game. I'm sure our friends and family, not in our alliance, will also be leaving the game. The salvage update makes it more difficult to open/obtain salvages or even help others. I can no longer fill up warehouses for repairs sustained on trying to open salvages. Researching and upgrades will be difficult to perform. Holding resources will be difficult, leaving players open to farming. I understand the higher level coiners are getting bored with the game and want more targets to hit, but you made the game far more difficult for a lot of players.

    The game is not balanced, although I understand that was the goal behind the changes made. It seems you are trying to encourage coining to make money and reducing the amount of "free" play. As it is repair, build, and research times are too long and take too much resources to obtain. In my opinion, this isn't going to attract new players to this game.

    I hope you will listen to the players and make some adjustments for a more balanced game. It has been fun, but at this time, many of us are ready to walk away.
  • rogue 241
    rogue 241
    Potential Threat
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 48
    WELL, PERSONALLY I THINK THE NEW BUBBLE SYSTEM IS CRAP.

    This is just an example of how terrible an idea it is. I'm a level 34, got a decent base, decent base fleet. Worked my arse off over 2 years to defend my base. I logged off last night & four hours later some guy attacked me 5 times. Managed to repel him from just reaching my warehouses & O/P, but he destroyed my base guard. I log on after sleeping the night.....to a 7 hour bubble. Shame it was only my base guard that manged to slow this guy down......that repair takes 9 'n a half hours. 5 attacks....'n in 7 hrs time he can wander into my base again without the fleet i specifically built for my base. Thanks a bunch.

    I welcome base hits; always have...but give me a reason to play this bleeding game. I ain't coining, just for the sake of coining.
  • Rns Snr
    Rns Snr
    Potential Threat
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 58
    I have played Battle pirates for almost 2 years now tried of the changes that only help the coiners out and i do coin alot but am tried of the vimpire bat knowin as kixeye and have found it time to move on to better and here it is World of Warship i don't see kixeye being here too much longer with the beta of world of warships there is not glitches it is what a real game should be check it out
    http://na.wargaming.net/ after you try it i know you will be saying goodbye to kixeye also
  • solaris
    solaris
    Greenhorn
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 7
    Why not return the ability to lock onto an attacker when they hit a friends base, and with all the bigger stronger fleets you were so gung-ho in creating give us something to make our bases stronger, more land, more powerful base weapons.
  • Glumdaclitch
    Glumdaclitch
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1
    This change in combination with the new level structure creates a bad environment. In the previous leveling system as you went up in level, each level took exponentially more points (gained through building, attacking, etc.) this meant that a player with a level 32 base had significantly more time to research, collect resources, and build more advanced (i.e., tougher) fleets, and base defense (~50%) than a base just 1 level lower. Under this model a level 32 base (player) stood next to no chance against a level 34 player (assuming same levels of fleet/base development). With previous +/- 5 level system, when you reached say 29th level you became fair game to ~99% of all players (the 35+ players excluded). if there was any good news under the old system was that when your base was leveled by a player a level or two above you you at least had a couple days of safety to rebuild "And Make Progress" towards getting tougher and maybe gaining some ground on the higher level player. Now "if" your base is leveled which is usually not the point of the attacker (he's there for your resources) but rather a possible byproduct you get 36 hours of protection in reality most hits will garner you 24 hours to repair and then start moving forward again... Repairs can take over "12 hours". The old system had similar flaws but, this new system worsens the same issues. Buddy Bubbles were used to provide 2 days of protection to improve in safety...as a game designer i understand that is not the desired behavior but, this new system does not address the "Reason" why Buddy Bubbles were being used. The attack level system need to be more restrictive at higher levels. Using the old level structure a sliding scale starting at +/- 5 levels for lower level players then dropping to +/- 4, 3, 2 as levels increase was needed with maybe some expansion of the levels and needed point to "level" but, this new level system combined with the protection system has made things worse... and caters to power-gamers... and those with a lot of spare cash!
  • The Creepo
    The Creepo
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 140
    Rns Snr wrote: »
    I have played Battle pirates for almost 2 years now tried of the changes that only help the coiners out and i do coin alot but am tried of the vimpire bat knowin as kixeye and have found it time to move on to better and here it is World of Warship i don't see kixeye being here too much longer with the beta of world of warships there is not glitches it is what a real game should be check it out
    http://na.wargaming.net/ after you try it i know you will be saying goodbye to kixeye also

    So I can't load it to play! Gonna try this new Ship game out!
  • lstrick9_99
    lstrick9_99
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 2
    with these new updates its impossible for the new people who do not have any special ships to compete.. the new damage rues suck **** i dont have enough time to repair and get more salvage before other people tag team my base like clock work every 12 hours.. kixeye is making this game so only the people with money can rule the game ,, this game sucks **** now ,, i will never play a kixeye game again
  • whysnooze
    whysnooze
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1
    The repair times are screwed up. if a player hits the dock and doesn't destroy it, I still have to wait the full 4 hours before I can use it again. This is making it useless for me to get on because I can never do anything. People are still sniping docks and launch pads too, this base update has done no good.
  • ddurango70
    ddurango70
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 5
    hey kixeye, i like the game, however, i recommend that the repair time be lessened especially after your base has been attacked and ALL FLEETS damaged which take hours to repair meanwhile leaving you nothing to do. The bubbling time should restart when you log back on since not all of us can be on 24/7 it will give us time to repair w/out someone raiding again and allow time to gather resources to better all objectives.
  • GFD150
    GFD150
    Potential Threat
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 30
    Kixeye Fix this game. It sucks right now.
    Peter Lokey
    Battle Pirate Name GFD
    Level 29

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    Born In 127
    Visited 290, 369
    Currently In 127
  • Ship
    Ship
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 15
    This is another kixeye screw up i sure it had good intention but if ya get your dock killed and your base guard fleet with say 26%dmg there is no way possible to have both fixed before bubble pops without coining and this is just another way for Kixeye to take money.
    :cool:
  • dennis white
    dennis white
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 7
    it is so WRONG to remove someones bubble if they hit anothers fleet.
    you will stop players who are bubbled from helping defend a friends base.
    dont have a problem with the rest of it
  • Captain Crapalot
    Captain Crapalot
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 293
    Why are these threads still open? It has been implemented already. Someone ought to wake up and smell the coffee...
  • Anthony Perez
    Anthony Perez
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 28
    Rns Snr wrote: »
    I have played Battle pirates for almost 2 years now tried of the changes that only help the coiners out and i do coin alot but am tried of the vimpire bat knowin as kixeye and have found it time to move on to better and here it is World of Warship i don't see kixeye being here too much longer with the beta of world of warships there is not glitches it is what a real game should be check it out
    http://na.wargaming.net/ after you try it i know you will be saying goodbye to kixeye also

    awesome site, ill spread it throughout my group, we are considering a new game as well, kixeye just messed BP up for the rest of .....well.....everyone!
  • rogue 241
    rogue 241
    Potential Threat
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 48
    Lvl 55 got clobbered 4 times last night (the first was a rim job on my dock). Got to watch it, so pressed repair after the attack, thinking a 4-6 hour repair would be fixed after 9 hours sleep (earning the reduced 12 bubble). Wake up, log on, only to find a new glitch telling me my base has been hit again damaging 40 buildings....& my dock's one of those 40. Only another 4 hr repair time to wait, with three hours bubble time; 'n my base fleet still un-repaired from the previous attack. Thanks a bunch; if you're going to implement new changes...make it it so they **** well work at least.
  • jmw
    jmw
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 23
    I would like to know your answer to this Question. Now that you have changed structure of how the bubble works, you can loose your bubble and still have damage to your weapons and Buildings. How does this keep players interested in the game when you already have damage and can be hit again and again and always be under a bubble . I't seems hopeless to try and get ahead in this game anymore. So why did you go in this direction when you are trying to get more people to play? THIS WILL NOT WORK AND WILL TURN PEOPLE AWAY FROM THIS GAME !!
  • rrabbit
    rrabbit
    Potential Threat
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 79
    Ok my take on this 8 hit rule, 5 ships in a defense flt after that 2 hits and your bubbled for however long the damage warrants, i think if u cant do it in 5 stop playing your not good at bp . i have friends that take bases with the toilets (gollies) for the newbies , in 2 hits . so the 8 hits is way to much.
  • Nap
    Nap
    Greenhorn
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 5
    Q: I need to buddy bubble so I can build/upgrade my buildings; how will I make any progress?
    A: There’s no challenge in a game where players are immune to penalties. Suffering delays to build times is part of the game; however, there are things that you can do such as relocating to a sector that does not have as much base hitting, or join an alliance where other players will take you under their wing.

    Q: Will you be changing how long it takes for certain buildings to repair like the Dock or the Launchpad?
    A: Currently there are no plans to change the repair times for any buildings; however, after the new Damage Protection System goes live, we will closely monitor the situation and see if any changes need to be made.

    Q: My Dock is going to get pummeled all the time; how will I be able to launch my fleets?
    A: If players are plotting against you, recruit some allies or join an existing group. Players will be much less likely to continuously attack your dock if they know that your allies will retaliate against them. There’s strength in numbers.

    These are very poor answers. Very poor indeed. Join a large group????? Seriously?? There are entire sectors that have joined together and it stops and/or scares away absolutely no one. If you are going to give a suggestion, please give one that works or keep your dumb answers to yourself. Not an insult, just a fact.The low levels are your future pal. Best start treating them as such. Give them a bubble they can gift each other or BP for. Maybe buy with resources. SOMETHING!! Not scare them away with a big group dressed as boogie men. K? Join a group?? Seriously??? Hey maybe you could make sectors just for certain levels so low levels can grow in their own pond. Buying with resources on a daily basis is the best idea though.
  • cybercrypt
    cybercrypt
    Greenhorn
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 3
    might there be another building created called Naval repair Yard or something to that affect where you can queue up damaged fleets and have this be a thing that takes a longer time to repair as currently when a dock gets destroyed it takes such a long time to repair which when you want to play a game and are pretty much stopped from playing it then enjoyment factor is reduced. If I have usable fleets why cant I use them to go get revenge or attack the ships that hit my base... if my fleets are damaged then i can see why a dock would be required to repair them.
  • Skarr
    Skarr
    Potential Threat
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 32
    rogue 241 wrote: »
    Lvl 55 got clobbered 4 times last night (the first was a rim job on my dock). Got to watch it, so pressed repair after the attack, thinking a 4-6 hour repair would be fixed after 9 hours sleep (earning the reduced 12 bubble). Wake up, log on, only to find a new glitch telling me my base has been hit again damaging 40 buildings....& my dock's one of those 40. Only another 4 hr repair time to wait, with three hours bubble time; 'n my base fleet still un-repaired from the previous attack. Thanks a bunch; if you're going to implement new changes...make it it so they **** well work at least.

    Pretty much the same @ lvl 46.
    Got hit - came on several hours later - massive repairs but bubble has expired.
    1/2 way through repair got hit again (my guess going on time of attack) - WHILE OFF LINE.
    Come back on - no bubble because I have been away too long since attack, and now got 3 fleets can't be repaired because dock is totalled.
    Currently repairing again and open to easy attack coz I got no defense.
    YEP - working well.
    Oh - did I happen to mention my upgrade that has now been put back about 1 day.
    On an 14 day upgrade I might get a Christmas present with notification it is now completed - or may be a New Year present.
  • Brademus-Krieg
    Brademus-Krieg
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 887
    Swag I am very interested in part of your answer talking about a sector where little of no base hitting takes place. I am a 47 now who has suffered through the pounding of the low and mid 20s and now occasionally get hit by monstrously huge flts who after 3, 4, or 5 hits just smash me. If nothing can be done I will live with this, not complaining. But I and many others joined this game to fight the Dracs and play in the Raids, this is what we enjoy. I am interested in your idea of a sector with no or very little base hitting and wonder if you could set up one for players like us. Other than testing other player's bases when they asked I have never hit a base, I find FvF far more exciting. Is something like this possible?
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  • Roy Gill
    Roy Gill
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    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 262
    Nap wrote: »
    Q: I need to buddy bubble so I can build/upgrade my buildings; how will I make any progress?

    o.

    ****ing **** bubler go play farm vile 2 or one of the other games that's poisenend the minds of gamers and turned them soft headed
     Doggy style + laptop on her back = sex and Battle pirates (disclaimers do try this it does end well, can result in causing allot of pleasure

    HEY YOU, YEAH YOU NOOBSAUCE
  • legion381
    legion381
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 800
    Roy Gill wrote: »
    ****ing **** bubler go play farm vile 2 or one of the other games that's poisenend the minds of gamers and turned them soft headed

    +1 LMFAO Told
    Just an **** being a Pirate
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  • Joshua Krone
    Joshua Krone
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 82
    FUCK YOU KIXEYE.jpg

    This is what happens if you log out at 9 pm go to bed get up at 6 get kids ready for school, eat, log on to facebook before work and ..........**** it now thats gonna not be good today. for those of you that cant see the picture i circled all the items that are 100% destroyed with red and that timer says 1 hour 17 minutes, but i popped my bubble imediatly and had someone come hit me restarting my 12 hours. but you have to fix this kixeye or make bases start auto repairing after an hour
  • Skarr
    Skarr
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 32
    Interesting point re the profitability of gaming sites.
    Kixeye is one of the most profitable gaming suppliers in the world and supply mostly (if not all their products) FREE to FB users.

    When you have 5 1/2 repair to your turrets with only 2 hours left on your bubble after being hit this makes it competitive?? or a Kixeye income earner??
    The upside - if I ever manage to bubble a higher lvl player then if he is not online to start repair immediately I can either keep him at my mercy of force him to coin repairs to beat me.
    Kixeye - I want my commission for the income I generate for you.
  • Tak PUnya Nama
    Tak PUnya Nama
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 3
    need help please fix a server in Indonesia so I can play back WC
  • Tak PUnya Nama
    Tak PUnya Nama
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 3
    pls help me fix a server in Indonesia so I can play back WC :crying:
  • Darin Flater
    Darin Flater
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1
    i just got hit by someone i don't even know and i have no protection bubble. what the hell
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