Submarine Equipment Specials

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edited 4 Apr 2012, 12:38PM
There are currently no specials in the Advanced Lab that are designed specifically to boost the effectiveness of submarines.

We will be adding 3 pieces of special equipment to the Advanced Lab that will allow submarines to:
  • Increase Havoc Torpedo damage.
  • Stay submerged for longer sprints in between surfacing.
  • Increase the submarine's ability to avoid detection from sonar.

These additions should make the submarines, especially the Stalker, more desirable in combat.
  • Captain_Dread
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    ****. I can see people using these on preds.
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  • Flo
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    Aren't subs already OP enough for their size? Increasing damage or Underwater time would make them even more OP...
    If you introduce this you should also introduce
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  • Admiral_Ackabar
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    this make me overly excited.
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  • KarateGarate
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    sounds like a good idea that's long overdue. However, I think there needs to be a more effective counter to increased sub effectiveness, such as anti-torpedo armor.
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  • Adam Price
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    subs are rubbish should remove them from the game
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  • oleboy13
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    Will be very effective for lower levels now that soon subs will not be instant repair.
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  • OdenTheBlack
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    Than give seawolfs and leviathan's torpedoes that can hit subs underwater and or CVLWT countermeasures if so add a special slot as well and raise weight for them.
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  • caribbean girl
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    i dont like subs as thye dont have specialls..good idea
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  • muskiedawg
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    I agree with mike, there needs to be some sort of counter protection from them seeing how they are already beast with du4 on stalkers and these new updates my fleets wont stand a chance as far as i can see.....
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  • Shadow of Omega
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    Subs are more than strong enough as they are. Some sectors like mine are filled with 'sub heroes' with 3+ fleets of subs. Quite annoying and they already have a clear advantage of being able to hide. If anything, there should be an advanced lab tech for rocket range or firing speed. It has accuracy and/or splash which is really pointless imho. Anyways, I've been enjoying everything EXCEPT the idea of sub advanced tech...

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  • Dark Lord Chuckles
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    Aren't subs already OP enough for their size? Increasing damage or Underwater time would make them even more OP...
    If you introduce this you should also introduce

    I don't really see subs as over powered. There are plenty ways to counter subs, but my personal favorite is missiles with SFB3 and Laser 3. Preds are easily dispatched and the Stalker is a glorified battle barge that takes far too much to build and far too long to repair. Even with the new specials, I don't see myself building a stalker in the near future unless the reduce the repair times.
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  • Dread_Pirate_Vitus
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    Great... more stuff in the Advanced lab.

    Though, welcome change
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  • Sturm
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    what about introducing depth charges as a counter for subs with maybe a bonus damage if used with sonar
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    Sturm wrote: »
    what about introducing depth charges as a counter for subs with maybe a bonus damage if used with sonar

    Post it in the wishlist section.
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  • adjensen
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    So you take away the instant heal, and the Sub Club says "no worries, we'll just launch with one health", and NOW you're planning on giving them stuff to do more damage before they get the same one hit they took when they had no armour, instant heal subs?

    Terrible idea.
  • ANGRY-VENOM
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    There are currently no specials in the Advanced Lab that are designed specifically to boost the effectiveness of submarines.

    We will be adding 3 pieces of special equipment to the Advanced Lab that will allow submarines to:
    • Increase Havoc Torpedo damage.
    • Stay submerged for longer sprints in between surfacing.
    • Increase the submarine's ability to avoid detection from sonar.

    These additions should make the submarines, especially the Stalker, more desirable in combat.

    all these new updates/upgrades sound great but need to be SOON! also need special for extended torp range!!! thk U!
    also plz keep subs insta repair!!!
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  • CaribianPirat
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    So much complain about this subs, and kixeye do them better. **** it :mad:
  • 00zau
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    adjensen wrote: »
    So you take away the instant heal, and the Sub Club says "no worries, we'll just launch with one health", and NOW you're planning on giving them stuff to do more damage before they get the same one hit they took when they had no armour, instant heal subs?

    Terrible idea.

    Adding the caveat that subs can only launch with full health would fix that one.
  • r80354
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    00zau wrote: »
    Adding the caveat that subs can only launch with full health would fix that one.


    If thats going to come down, it should be for all types of ships, not just one.
  • total burnination
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    noo please dont subs are bad enough
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  • Scurvy
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    There are currently no specials in the Advanced Lab that are designed specifically to boost the effectiveness of submarines.

    We will be adding 3 pieces of special equipment to the Advanced Lab that will allow submarines to:
    • Increase Havoc Torpedo damage.
    • Stay submerged for longer sprints in between surfacing.
    • Increase the submarine's ability to avoid detection from sonar.

    These additions should make the submarines, especially the Stalker, more desirable in combat.

    Are you freaking crazy? No offense but having subs to begin with was plain crazy, now you want to make them stronger?

    Are you going to make them require the same resources to build and repair as an HH or FF? And the same repair times?
  • gtslow
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    I can't see how this would be a good idea. At least make the **** things have some sort of realistic repair time. 7mins repair time for a sea dominating fleet.
  • Skull_Pirates
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    Do whatever you want to the subs. I will still sink them with 0 % damage to me. Learn to fight them and you wont care either.
  • DogOfWar
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    boosting stalkers with 4 havocs is a real good idea.....will give some motivation to built them...but im afraid adding these specials will OP them.....i mean a full du stalker with 4 havocs and special for submerged and havoc damage increase.....no matter how slow....you can spread them for a net......and bam sfb wolf fleet useless
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  • Warler
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    long over due update on subs tbh ! they will now be a well thoughted about hull now instead of everyone running around with SBF's and missle SW ¬!!!!
  • Captain Crapalot
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    Great idea!
  • telemarks
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    Like the ideas, they are great for stalkers, but Preds were overpowered already.

    How about making these specials have a high increase in overall weight. That way if someone does want to use the tier3 sub special on a Pred, they have to drop back to havok 3's to keep in weight ...
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