Base Patrol Fleet

  • Hast at work
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    This can be either the idea that helps take this game to the next level, or sinks it.

    A weight limit for the defending fleet is a MUST, it can scale with dock but should NOT be as high as full-on fleet. For example, a level 10 dock might field a fleet of Levis.

    Rules for where these fleets deploy is critical. If they can deploy inside an already difficult base they can be abused as cheap, powerful mobile towers.

    not allowing damaged ships from being removed from the base defense slot might be a must, otherwise, what is to stop someone from cycling every crapy ship in his dock out to delay an attack or grief an attacker.

    On the plus side, this feature could make spineless "rim jobs" risky business, and solves the gunboat greif problem that the no-damage bubble was there to prevent in an interesting fashion.
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  • StormRider-WOLF
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    I have read and thought about this some.
    I have a idea that you may or maynot like.
    Create a "11th" Fleet. This fleet will be a PLAYER made fleet. You can limit this fleet in a number of ways. ONE, by weight. Two number of ships AND types of ships. This will prevent dread players from using 5 dreads to soak fire. Causing you to time out. I like the weight limit Idea more so. Give it say 10-15k ton weight limit. Rises with dock level. 10-15k would be dock 10. This way, players can have halfway decent ships about three(not fully loaded) or a light fleet of 5. This will cause players to actually "think" about there builds. Also, This fleet can not be deployed outside of base. It also auto repairs(if the res is available) the moment the base gets a DP bubble. NOT before(although you can choose to repair if your online) ALSO, if your base defending fleet is repairing, and you are attacked, it auto launches with what ever health it has.
    Now, as for placement of said ships. I think I read through the lines on your post. If I am correct it will split up your ships AROUND your base. NOT in it. If that is the case, let it be limited. So players cant concentrate fleets in one spot. Like slots for ships, except this one will be for the base total. One at entrance. One to the left and right(about a 5th of total distance around base) of entrance. Then last two, one on left and one on right. Basically seperates your ships evenly around the base IF you are using 5 ships. Lets say you want to use 3. Then the program would set the slots EVENLY around the entire base. BUT one will always be at the entrance.
    NO defending fleet should be allow to enter the channel until AFTER the attacking fleet has entered. Basically chasing them. UNLESS there is a limit on patrol set in place on said ship/s.

    I have read some other ideas on this thread as well. The one I like is the one similar to merc fleets. Except I would suggest a change to that. Use my idea above. BUT, limit it to top two hulls. Say FF and Levi. Keep dock weight limit. No specials, You choose armor and Weapon loadouts. This will prevent a SFB3 fleet from dominating. Also, its limited to forsaken weapons. NO drac tech allowed on said fleet. Respawn time based on armor(meaning how long said fleet would normally take to repair if it were a normal fleet). Once it is repaired it is auto launched. Also, Damaged ships will be able to do minor repairs. Meaning, After a failed hit on your base, yet you are offline. Ship will start repairing, BUT only if it is "dead" or badly damaged. Say under 15%. It can repair UP to 15%. In order to get a full repair, all of fleet must die. Also, player has option to repair damaged fleets while online. This will cause your defending fleet to go into repair mode. Time for respawn will be based on normal repair times. Dock will not be used to repair said fleet either.

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  • moforocks
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    You can currently deploy a fleet outside of your base to defend it. While this can be helpful in defending your base, we feel that players should also have the ability to have a fleet to defend inside of the base as well.

    We will be implementing a feature that allows players to deploy a single fleet within their base that will attack invading fleets. Players will be able to set an attack radius of the fleet to customize how far away a fleet will travel to engage enemy ships. This gives players the ability to prevent the patrolling fleet from being “kited” (lured) away from the base.

    If a player is present when their base is being attacked by an enemy fleet, the player will be free to control the patrolling ships how they see fit.

    Please allow only one ship like a merc fleet that can only be launched every 12 hours. I don't want to fight a fully loaded dread fleet everytime I back out. Battle times going to be longer? Of so we should be able to leave base attack mode.
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  • Debs
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    I disagree. I leave a guard out because I am SMART. You would be surprised at how much dmg my lil guard can do to a lvl 38 flt. Not to mention it deters the player who is out scouting with a gb. Quit ya whining and learn to adapt to whatever changes occur. If you don't like it stop playing. I would rather see this change than reading in comms how people can perfect the "bedtime bubble". some people are very good at hitting bases and will find a way to over come this change. Those who arn't good at hitting bases should either learn how or get your res another way. There are many approaches to this game. If the change does not suite your approach then learn something new.
    jayem8ch wrote: »
    I did read it carefully! read my other posts! fleets in a base will be ez to defeat, just like all other auto pilot fleets. It might take a week or 2 to figure them out, but in the end, they will just be target practice. I agree that if someone is on line, it might make it more interesting, but really not much different than now and them sending out fleets to defend. Besides, if you are getting hit from a stronger player, you probably don't have a fleet to defeat them anyway, and your just losing a fleet on top of your base. That's why most SMART people don't leave guards out now, cuz they just target practice. If you look at the drac bases, the fleets were the easiest to take out.
  • Debs
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    Sorry if this question has already been asked. Was reading through the 22 pages of whining and didn't find it yet. If the dock is killed first will the patrol flt still be able to defend?
  • Hast at work
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    Debs wrote: »
    I disagree. I leave a guard out because I am SMART. You would be surprised at how much dmg my lil guard can do to a lvl 38 flt. Not to mention it deters the player who is out scouting with a gb. Quit ya whining and learn to adapt to whatever changes occur. If you don't like it stop playing. I would rather see this change than reading in comms how people can perfect the "bedtime bubble". some people are very good at hitting bases and will find a way to over come this change. Those who arn't good at hitting bases should either learn how or get your res another way. There are many approaches to this game. If the change does not suite your approach then learn something new.

    I dont leave a guard out, cause it IS dumb. you could make a bridge from here to china with the sunken hulls of the AFK guard fleets that i come across. The more guard fleets the more likely i am to sink them to get a peek. I don't care what you put in them, autopilot fleet will always do much much worse than a controlled one. That being said, I could see myself building a couple of assault mortar or assault missile dreads or battleships to patrol my base, I don't understand how anyone could even try my base without greivous harm if they allow us to do that.
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  • numb NUTZ
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    I think it's a great idea only if the lower players are protected from being demolished by the higher players. The higher players have bigger and better ships and will still have no problem getting through the defending ships and the base. I feel like the +/- 5 should also be changed to maybe +/-2. This will better even the odds of being destroyed by bigger, stronger players.
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  • Hast at work
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    I think it's a great idea only if the lower players are protected from being demolished by the higher players. The higher players have bigger and better ships and will still have no problem getting through the defending ships and the base. I feel like the +/- 5 should also be changed to maybe +/-2. This will better even the odds of being destroyed by bigger, stronger players.

    +/- 3 or 4 is more reasonable. I agree that 5 might be too high especially at the higher levels (maybe it can start at +/- 5 and change as you level up?) but this isn't really the place to discuss that.

    At the same time, part of the problem is since the advent of instant subs and rampant buddy bubbles, newer players seem to have the idea that being attacked and beaten is somehow a non-normal state for the game...which is riddiculous. I remember being level 27/28 and I would go and hit lower level ranges and take their res and then someone level 30/31 would come and tax me back, it was just part of the game. It encourages you to build a better base and to actually invest time, resources and thought into your defense. If you are level 25 now and a level 30 is farming you, i PROMISE you a guy like me is farming HIM.

    Now I see people who live under a buddy bubble and have 7 Hammerhead hulls built at level 29...I can only imagine what his base looks like but i'm willing to bet it isn't great.
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  • Jimpy Gimpy
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    this just proves my point once again of the future of battle pirates. although it is a great game, it is going more and more to having a selected few being able to run over all other players.

    i completely and 100% aggree with the removal of no damage bubbles.

    but lets face it, we all know a good base is already pretty hard to beat, unless ofcourse you are one of the few who got the big ships from the events. such as the dreadnaught and the HH-b i beleive it is.

    and not saying that one needs these superships to take out a good base, for skill can do that too, but i think we all can aggree that the dreadnaught and the HH-b i beleive it is, do make attacking bases with a much higher success rate due to stock armorment, weapons slots and weight limit compared to standard forsaken ships.

    so now they making bases even harder to break to help fend off these superships. problem is people will use these superships as base patrol ships. as it was already mentioned in a above post.

    so it is gonna become to where if you didn't win a event prize, you are gonna be at the mercy of those who did win a event prize. the bases are gonna get stronger, as the event prize ships get bigger, if ya don't win a event, ya are gonna be left behind in the wake of the superships that will take over the sectors.

    and this is by no means a attack on anyone who has won a event, so please don't take it that way. if ya won a ship, good job i am happy for you, i really am. and i hope ya like you new ship, and i mean that completely.

    the people i know that have won these events are usually very cool people, and i have nothing agaisnt them. would even concider calling some of them friends. this is not about you.

    i am just stating that these new changes although are good in concept, how are they gonna effect how the game is played. i see it more and more that the balance of power is being tilted more and more to event winners. and the new players, and those who didn't win events are being left in the wake. with slim to no chance of ever catching up.

    just one man's oppinion, and there is no offense meant to anyone in this post....
  • Michael Biggie Smalls
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    how do u get your flt to patrol your base were is that feature located and how do u get it to work
    :o
  • Alexander Schneider
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    You will only be allowed to set 1 fleet to patrol at a time.

    Swag, this is kinda a cool idea... tho, if I set a 25 D53 dread fleet behind the defense channel and totaly inside the base... I don't think a fleet will ever make it inside.

    It's only 5 D53 a ship... x5 = 25.
    one fleet of dreads with specific fit...
    I don't want to put 25 fleets inside Swag!

    But a weight limit, or size of ships could really fit the "guard fleet" principle.
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  • Hast at work
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    this just proves my point once again of the future of battle pirates. although it is a great game, it is going more and more to having a selected few being able to run over all other players.

    i completely and 100% aggree with the removal of no damage bubbles.

    but lets face it, we all know a good base is already pretty hard to beat, unless ofcourse you are one of the few who got the big ships from the events. such as the dreadnaught and the HH-b i beleive it is.

    and not saying that one needs these superships to take out a good base, for skill can do that too, but i think we all can aggree that the dreadnaught and the HH-b i beleive it is, do make attacking bases with a much higher success rate due to stock armorment, weapons slots and weight limit compared to standard forsaken ships.

    so now they making bases even harder to break to help fend off these superships. problem is people will use these superships as base patrol ships. as it was already mentioned in a above post.

    so it is gonna become to where if you didn't win a event prize, you are gonna be at the mercy of those who did win a event prize. the bases are gonna get stronger, as the event prize ships get bigger, if ya don't win a event, ya are gonna be left behind in the wake of the superships that will take over the sectors.

    and this is by no means a attack on anyone who has won a event, so please don't take it that way. if ya won a ship, good job i am happy for you, i really am. and i hope ya like you new ship, and i mean that completely.

    the people i know that have won these events are usually very cool people, and i have nothing agaisnt them. would even concider calling some of them friends. this is not about you.

    i am just stating that these new changes although are good in concept, how are they gonna effect how the game is played. i see it more and more that the balance of power is being tilted more and more to event winners. and the new players, and those who didn't win events are being left in the wake. with slim to no chance of ever catching up.

    just one man's oppinion, and there is no offense meant to anyone in this post....

    Good post man.

    I think it will come down to how it is implemented. Also keep in mind that people who work at Kixeye actually play the game. If they find it isn't working they will find a way to change/fix it.

    I have Raid Hammerheads, Dreadnaughts, Battleships and Sea Scorpions and I gotta tell you, if there aren't limitations put in on this I certainly wouldnt want to attack a player like me...what would be the point? 20 hours of repairs and 15 mil+ cost on 2 or 3 fleets for a mximum of 25-28 mil res. Thanks, but no thanks, thats like 6 level 9 salvs or 12 level 8 salvs which i can get in like 30 minutes for no damage....
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  • MrTrollson
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    how do u get your flt to patrol your base were is that feature located and how do u get it to work
    :o

    it hasn't been brought into the game yet see name FUTURE features
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  • donaldo
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    "I can also see players parking missile/mortar fleets behind land walls and using them as additional towers." lol thats what i was thinking

    actuallly love the idea behind this lol when are you planning to implement?
    Rufi0 wrote: »
    another great idea. fits in nicely now that the 4 and 10 attack rules are going to be taken away.

    It makes sense that a defending fleet should have some sort of home ground advantage.

    Though I do think this will make things very difficult. What is to stop someone camping their fleet by their warehouses? When you consider how beat up your base fleets usually are by the time they get to the warehouses. A good fleet fighter is gonna make short work of you.

    I can also see players parking missile/mortar fleets behind land walls and using them as additional towers.
  • donaldo
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    lol love this idea when will it be implemented?

    its perfect with the new rules of bubbling.
    You can currently deploy a fleet outside of your base to defend it. While this can be helpful in defending your base, we feel that players should also have the ability to have a fleet to defend inside of the base as well.

    We will be implementing a feature that allows players to deploy a single fleet within their base that will attack invading fleets. Players will be able to set an attack radius of the fleet to customize how far away a fleet will travel to engage enemy ships. This gives players the ability to prevent the patrolling fleet from being “kited” (lured) away from the base.

    If a player is present when their base is being attacked by an enemy fleet, the player will be free to control the patrolling ships how they see fit.
  • donaldo
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    i dont like your stagnant ideas i love the diversity and dynamics of a game that morphes over time.

    such as this does. bubble gone good but keep the upgrades going lol im sure that you would not appreciate me coming over just to take out one building and then leave and do the same every 2 hours ""hypothetically speaking of course"" lol i am busy to a point.

    with the base fleet what really is the problem you can send your fleets in the base just the same its still doable to attack and take a high lvl base lol no matter a fleet patrolling lol we proved it in the base invaders thats how you win. everything takes planning if you are madd at these rules its because you have set yourself up cushy and want it to stay the same lol dont allow that fight against that logic be dynamic. think of other ways to fight there always is.
    Good post man.

    I think it will come down to how it is implemented. Also keep in mind that people who work at Kixeye actually play the game. If they find it isn't working they will find a way to change/fix it.

    I have Raid Hammerheads, Dreadnaughts, Battleships and Sea Scorpions and I gotta tell you, if there aren't limitations put in on this I certainly wouldnt want to attack a player like me...what would be the point? 20 hours of repairs and 15 mil+ cost on 2 or 3 fleets for a mximum of 25-28 mil res. Thanks, but no thanks, thats like 6 level 9 salvs or 12 level 8 salvs which i can get in like 30 minutes for no damage....
  • tantanoid
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    Good idea and it's great that you requested feedback before implementing it!

    Some comments on how I think it would work:
    1. Defending fleet always starts at the dock.
    2. Player can still place fleets outside their base to defend.
    3. New special 11th slot to place the defending fleet. It can't be launched and to remove a ship from this fleet it needs to be fully repaired first. Perhaps also increase the total limit of ships by 5.
    4. There's no bottom limit to the maximum range. If set to 0 the ships will never move.
    5. Range is shown when the dock is selected similar to turrets.
    6. Repairing the defensive fleet costs the same as normal fleet in res and time.
    7. Damage to the defensive fleet does not count towards base damage. It's the defenders responsibility to place the dock where the ships can't be lured out.
    8. Base attack time should not be increased. A carefully launched Pinch can disable the defending fleet and a couple of turrets giving the attacker enough time to blitz through.
    9. A weight limit to balance out this new defensive capability. Something between 20% and 40% of a normal fleet. Testing at different levels is needed to determine the maximum weight where the base can still be pillaged.

    This could finally make the Stalker useful.
  • Warbend307
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    Please for gods sake dont add this, this will make high lvl bases unbreakable. Just park a mortar flt in ur base and set up to rain down morts on any flt trying to get through ur channel. This will ruin this game if added like ur saying.
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  • MrTrollson
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    another question here: Would all the ships have to be in the same spot or could we place them in different areas?
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  • bees
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    Debs wrote: »
    I disagree. I leave a guard out because I am SMART. You would be surprised at how much dmg my lil guard can do to a lvl 38 flt. Not to mention it deters the player who is out scouting with a gb. Quit ya whining and learn to adapt to whatever changes occur. If you don't like it stop playing. I would rather see this change than reading in comms how people can perfect the "bedtime bubble". some people are very good at hitting bases and will find a way to over come this change. Those who arn't good at hitting bases should either learn how or get your res another way. There are many approaches to this game. If the change does not suite your approach then learn something new.

    LOL.. Guess you haven't meet any skilled players yet. Put a dread fleet outside with 40 assault missiles on and i can kill it pretty fast with my mortar SWs fleet and a small pinch!
    Guess you are a noob!
  • TheMadMonk
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    Base protection with a fleet sounds great, but I think we need something like mines to add extra defence to the base, you can always add an extra to advance labs for mine sweeping / detection at a high cost to make it interesting.

    lower level players need some extra defence when a higher level player wipes your base out.

    its an idea, many may not like it but its may help stop player leaving as they feel that if they are not top dog there's no point in playing.

    :)
  • bees
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    TheMadMonk wrote: »
    Base protection with a fleet sounds great, but I think we need something like mines to add extra defence to the base, you can always add an extra to advance labs for mine sweeping / detection at a high cost to make it interesting.

    lower level players need some extra defence when a higher level player wipes your base out.

    its an idea, many may not like it but its may help stop player leaving as they feel that if they are not top dog there's no point in playing.

    :)

    Go play farmville there you don't have to be attacked or farmed! You don't understand this will make it even easier for big players to be bullies? With this option they can crush your base and sink your fleet + you or your high lvl friends have no chance to hit them back!
  • TheMadMonk
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    bees wrote: »
    Go play farmville there you don't have to be attacked or farmed! You don't understand this will make it even easier for big players to be bullies? With this option they can crush your base and sink your fleet + you or your high lvl friends have no chance to hit them back!

    well that was constructive....

    The game will do better with balance, and if ideas are hit with comments like that it shows that the game won't last long. I have an okay level and have loads higher than me that will help.

    I have worked my way up and just would like to see this game last longer than others and have less empty bases.

    Well that's my 2 cents :p..
  • jayem8ch
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    FBgamer wrote: »
    I wouldn't say this means nothing.

    "1st attack: take out the defending fleet."

    This could be easier said than done. I will be able to select the radius of where my fleet will defend. If I select a radius small enough so that VMs and sents will be firing at you while you're trying to take out my fleet then my fleet won't go down so easily.

    "2nd attack: soften the base."

    Same thing. I could have the patrolling fleet close to the turrets for extra protection with hailstorms and extra firepower with SFB3 missiles and mortars. Softening my base won't be that easy.

    "3rd attack: take the loot with your overpowered Siege Missiles and Pinch combos. What you have left?.... a dead fleet with no res for repairs :)"

    With an unlimited number of attacks, you might eventually take the loot but at what cost to you?

    I still think this is a very interesting feature and I'm looking forward to seeing how it works.

    Agreed, so why would anyone want to hit a base? Again, this will just favor the stronger players, and the smaller players that the game needs to keep it interesting will be left out because they can't hit bases, and get clobbered by the bullies that are 5 levels higher than them looking for someone to pick on. This will kill the game.
  • bees
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    TheMadMonk wrote: »
    well that was constructive....

    The game will do better with balance, and if ideas are hit with comments like that it shows that the game won't last long. I have an okay level and have loads higher than me that will help.

    I have worked my way up and just would like to see this game last longer than others and have less empty bases.

    Well that's my 2 cents :p..

    The game is balanced now! Everyone can be beaten, every ship can be powerful. I see a lot of people complain about dreads or HHs-A,B are so powerful i dotn agree with this even i dotn have this ships because i can do the same or even better with my FFs fleet. The reason why people think the game is unbalanced is because some got siege weapons and dotn now how to equip them on the ship so it get powerful and others who know how to do it then the guys who don't know whine about a game isn't balanced! I can beat every fleet with every fleet i can take down every bases with every big fleets. So tell me in what why this game isn't balanced?
  • Magiun Pa Paine
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    One queue for repaires can help a lot in case u are bubbled and loose all your fleets... I don't see the point for playing the game in this situation so can be helpfull for most of the players!!!!!!!!!
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  • killer bubba
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    Ok if they going to take away the bubble the smaller players will get destroyed everyday . With that it means it will take longer for them to get upgrading and reserching done. i thihk everyone should be able to upgrade more things at once like we can reserching to make it a little more fair too. Not just one thing which can take 10 days to do so.
  • bees
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    Ok if they going to take away the bubble the smaller players will get destroyed everyday . With that it means it will take longer for them to get upgrading and reserching done. i thihk everyone should be able to upgrade more things at once like we can reserching to make it a little more fair too. Not just one thing which can take 10 days to do so.

    agree +1 .. +only noobs don't know how to handle bubble buddies >.<
  • TheMadMonk
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    bees wrote: »
    The game is balanced now! Everyone can be beaten, every ship can be powerful. I see a lot of people complain about dreads or HHs-A,B are so powerful i dotn agree with this even i dotn have this ships because i can do the same or even better with my FFs fleet. The reason why people think the game is unbalanced is because some got siege weapons and dotn now how to equip them on the ship so it get powerful and others who know how to do it then the guys who don't know whine about a game isn't balanced! I can beat every fleet with every fleet i can take down every bases with every big fleets. So tell me in what why this game isn't balanced?


    Okay, I've not complained about the fleets, 2bo fleets are not the issue, its okay if you are online and can send all your fleets out to defend or even get your friends in to help, but when it comes to a fleet on base attack and you are being attacked by a player 5+ levels higher than you there is no defence, especially when you are offline.

    I bet when you first started you wished that you had the means to stop it when you were offline, no one can be on line 24/7 and some thing like mines my help.
    As it was I was only giving an idea out to the Kixeye team to think about and was not expecting comments like yours with out thinking of the pros and cons.

    If the game was 'balanced' Kixeye would not be changing the 'friendly bubble' and adding the base patrol as well as other changes to make this great game even better.
  • Jimpy Gimpy
    Jimpy Gimpy
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jan 2011 Posts: 203
    Ok if they going to take away the bubble the smaller players will get destroyed everyday . With that it means it will take longer for them to get upgrading and reserching done. i thihk everyone should be able to upgrade more things at once like we can reserching to make it a little more fair too. Not just one thing which can take 10 days to do so.

    they are not taking away the bubble, they are taking away the no damage bubbles, so people can't give friendly bubbles. bubbles will now be based purely on damage sustained.

    now i can understand how this may damper newer players. but this will stop all the friendly bubbler's. there is a clan in the connecting sector to the one i reside in, that have buddies waiting by their base. and once they make a base attack, their buddy bubble them until they get to next target. and they repeat this all night long.
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